# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1197
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23925 "2018-08-09T16:38:05Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > [It seems, from what I can tell, to have originated in this tweet.](https://twitter.com/cavalorn/status/654934442549620736?lang=en) Linked story in the responses. [The USDA Rolled Back Protections For Small Farmers. Now The Farmers Are Suing](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/12/14/570889309/the-usda-rolled-back-protections-for-small-farmers-now-theyre-suing) > [@](#): > > An organization representing the interests of small farmers across rural America fired a legal salvo Thursday aimed at a Trump administration they feel has let them down. > > At issue is the Trump administration’s withdrawal of two Obama-era rules designed to protect small farmers, who say they are being exploited by the meatpacking companies they supply. > > Many of the farmers affected by the rollback supported Donald Trump for president, believing his promise to look after their interests. Now, the disillusionment is setting in. > > West Virginia poultry farmer Mike Weaver is one of them; he says the feeling now among small farmers and ranchers is, “Where’s the support that you promised us? We voted for you because you were going to make things right, and it’s not happening.” Ah, yes. The common clay of the [del]Old[/del] New West. You know…morans. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23926 "2018-08-09T17:53:17Z")
> [@Project\_Patahhh](#): > > And Benghazi. #neverforget True, one of her subordinates went on a morning talk show and said something that ended up not being true. Can you imagine what would happen if Trump did something like that? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23927 "2018-08-09T18:01:34Z")
> [@Project\_Patahhh](#): > > And Benghazi. #neverforget When does the investigation into the Bowling Green Massacre convene? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23928 "2018-08-09T18:06:39Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The article says he’s a naturalised citizen, but it doesn’t say if he has Mexican citizenship. He could have been born elsewhere. [He’s a native of Mexico](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orange/os-immigration-alejandra-juarez-deportation-mexico-20180802-story.html). Also, > [@](#): > > The self-described "super conservative” Republican voted for Trump but said he didn’t think the billionaire’s election would hasten his wife’s deportation. > > “I ate my words," he said. "Obviously, when Trump came in, everybody is [a] priority now.” NOW he gets it. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23929 "2018-08-09T19:30:08Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > When does the investigation into the Bowling Green Massacre convene? Ah, yes. I remember when that didn’t happen… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23930 "2018-08-09T19:34:17Z")
Y’know what? A lot of those persons who got bit in the face by the leopard? Given the chance they’ll vote for the leopards again. They have internalized that the system is rigged to f\*\*\* them over, so they might as well vote to bring down the whole thing and “let God sort them out” on the other side of the cataclysm ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23931 "2018-08-09T20:02:56Z")
Probably Agent Orange’s way of dumping Melania for a newer edition. Lying on visa applications can be a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23932 "2018-08-09T20:21:18Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [He’s a native of Mexico](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orange/os-immigration-alejandra-juarez-deportation-mexico-20180802-story.html). Also,NOW he gets it. Not quite: "Even though the policy is hitting close to home, Temo Juarez said he doesn’t blame Trump for tearing his family apart. " ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23933 "2018-08-09T20:29:22Z")
Trump is asking his supporters to vote on a new logo for his Space Force. > **[Trump campaign asks supporters to vote on logo for ‘Space Force’ gear](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear/)** > > One option appears to be a repurposed version of the NASA logo. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23934 "2018-08-09T20:39:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump is asking his supporters to vote on a new logo for his Space Force. > [http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear) [First thing I thought of…](http://www.tshirtvortex.net/im-surrounded-by-assholes/) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23935 "2018-08-09T20:49:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump is asking his supporters to vote on a new logo for his Space Force. > [http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear) At least he doesn’t wear a tan suit. We don’t want our president to look like a fucking doofus. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23936 "2018-08-09T21:32:51Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Y’know what? A lot of those persons who got bit in the face by the leopard? Given the chance they’ll vote for the leopards again. They have internalized that the system is rigged to f\*\*\* them over, so they might as well vote to bring down the whole thing and “let God sort them out” on the other side of the cataclysm It seems odd that someone who is getting their face eaten off by a leopard would be holding a “Leopards who eat people’s faces 2020!” sign, until you realize that the disappointment isn’t that the leopards are eating faces, and it’s not even the betrayal of having their own face eaten. What it is is that they think that by supporting the leopards, they themselves will become leopards, and then they will get to eat other people’s faces. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23937 "2018-08-09T22:44:29Z")
Judge tells Jeff Sessions that he’s going to turn this plane around: From the **ACLU Twitter** : > \*\*BREAKING: In challenge to Sessions’ policy of denying asylum protection to immigrants fleeing domestic violence and gang brutality, the judge blocked the government from deporting our clients as he considers the case. However, disturbing news came to light during the hearing.\*\* 175 replies 5,582 retweets 11,233 likes Reply 175 Retweet 5.6K Like 11K Direct message ACLU ‏ Verified account @ACLU 4h4 hours ago More \*\*While in court, we found out that the government had deported a client and her young child just hours before, putting their lives at risk. This directly contradicts the government’s commitment to the court that NO ONE would be removed until tomorrow at the earliest.\*\* 30 replies 2,558 retweets 6,896 likes Reply 30 Retweet 2.6K Like 6.9K Direct message ACLU ‏ Verified account @ACLU Follow Follow @ACLU More \*\*The judge ordered the government to turn the plane around and bring the asylum-seeking mother and child back to the US. He said that if the situation wasn’t fixed he would consider contempt proceedings — starting with the attorney general.\*\* According to the Wapo quoted via Salon because of WaPo’s premium page, it didn’t literally turn around because it has to refuel, but DHS has stated that they will comply and the mother & daughter will be returned to the US immediately. > **[Judge Threatens Jeff Sessions With Contempt, Orders Deported Mother and...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/jeff-sessions-threatened-with-contempt-of-court-deported-mother-and-daughter-ordered-returned-to-united-states.html?via=homepage_taps_top)** > > A judge threatened Jeff Sessions with contempt of court after the government broke a promise not to deport a mother and daughter fleeing domestic violence. The Judge is Not Happy. > [@Judge Sullivan](#): > > “This is pretty outrageous,” Judge Sullivan said, according to the Post, upon learning that the pair had been sent back to El Salvador. “That someone seeking justice in U.S. court is spirited away while her attorneys are arguing for justice for her?” > > “I’m not happy about this at all,” he continued. “This is not acceptable.” When the Judge ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23938 "2018-08-09T23:39:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump is asking his supporters to vote on a new logo for his Space Force. > [http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear) Oooo…I want to submit a design. Maybe something with Putin butt-fucking Trump on the moon, with a rocket in the background. #MAGA ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23939 "2018-08-09T23:48:49Z")
\*\*"The judge ordered the government to turn the plane around and bring the asylum-seeking mother and child back to the US. He said that if the situation wasn’t fixed he would consider contempt proceedings — starting with the attorney general." \*\*These could very well be the coolest words I’ve read since the election. You know the one. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23940 "2018-08-10T00:08:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump is asking his supporters to vote on a new logo for his Space Force. > [http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401148-trump-asks-supporters-to-vote-on-logo-for-space-force-gear) In case anyone is interested[here are the logos](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/trump-wants-campaign-donors-to-vote-on-the-logo-for-the-space-force/). I think they all look pretty hokey except for maybe the second to last one (above Mars awaits). All but the first one either have space shuttles (which have been discontinued) or unrealistic little rocketships with an outsized window that would have gone out of style in the 50’s. Its like designing a logo for the navy and including [this](https://depositphotos.com/114394776/stock-illustration-toy-fishing-boat-icon.html). More realistic would be to show a satellite. The Mars Awaits one looks to me like a sci-fi/horror movie poster with this giant maw ready to gobble up this little spaceship, and an ominous message. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23941 "2018-08-10T00:35:36Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Maybe something with Putin butt-fucking Trump on the moon, with **a rocket in the background**. Kinda redundant, don’t you think? > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > In case anyone is interested[here are the logos](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/trump-wants-campaign-donors-to-vote-on-the-logo-for-the-space-force/). I think they all look pretty hokey except for maybe the second to last one (above Mars awaits). All but the first one either have space shuttles (which have been discontinued) or unrealistic little rocketships with an outsized window that would have gone out of style in the 50’s. Its like designing a logo for the navy and including [this](https://depositphotos.com/114394776/stock-illustration-toy-fishing-boat-icon.html). More realistic would be to show a satellite. > > The Mars Awaits one looks to me like a sci-fi/horror movie poster with this giant maw ready to gobble up this little spaceship, and an ominous message. The logos are ridiculous, but what troubles me more is this quote from Rick’s link: > [@](#): > > President Trump’s campaign on Thursday latched onto the administration’s formal announcement of a proposed “Space Force,” asking supporters to vote on a logo that will be displayed on merchandise. > > An email from the campaign asks supporters to vote on one of six logos that will be emblazoned on future Trump campaign items. Users can pick a logo, then are prompted to make a donation to the Trump campaign. Is that even remotely legal, for a politician to solicit campaign funds with something that’s proposed to be an official symbol of the U.S. government? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23942 "2018-08-10T00:53:16Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Kinda redundant, don’t you think? > > The logos are ridiculous, but what troubles me more is this quote from Rick’s link:Is that even remotely legal, for a politician to solicit campaign funds with something that’s proposed to be an official symbol of the U.S. government? What good is a kleptocracy if you can’t make money or raise campaign funds off the office you were elected to hold? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23943 "2018-08-10T00:53:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Linked story in the responses. > [The USDA Rolled Back Protections For Small Farmers. Now The Farmers Are Suing](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/12/14/570889309/the-usda-rolled-back-protections-for-small-farmers-now-theyre-suing) > > Ah, yes. The common clay of the [del]Old[/del] New West. You know…morans. Morans? > [@smithsb](#): > > Probably Agent Orange’s way of dumping Melania for a newer edition. Lying on visa applications can be a bitch. Fun fact: Her parents just became US citizens via a program Trump is trying to get rid of. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > It seems odd that someone who is getting their face eaten off by a leopard would be holding a “Leopards who eat people’s faces 2020!” sign, until you realize that the disappointment isn’t that the leopards are eating faces, and it’s not even the betrayal of having their own face eaten. What it is is that they think that by supporting the leopards, they themselves will become leopards, and then they will get to eat other people’s faces. Oh, they realize the leopards are a danger to them. What they have internalized is yet another lie: Hillary Clinton is even worse. So they are still happy with the munching leopards. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23944 "2018-08-10T00:57:12Z")
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