# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1199
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23965 "2018-08-10T13:23:52Z")
It’s just more shit that plebians pay for while the plutocrats concentrate even more of their wealth and power. Commoners pay for the defense of the plutocratic state. I kinda doubt the space force happens, but if it does and if it’s created in Trump’s image, it will become a kleptocrat’s wet dream. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23966 "2018-08-10T13:25:03Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > … incredibly dumb and potentially provocative. Remove “potentially” and there is a one word summation of this: Trump. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23967 "2018-08-10T13:29:57Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …I kinda doubt the space force happens, but if it does and if it’s created in Trump’s image, it will become a kleptocrat’s wet dream. The trumpniks will think it’s happening. But nah, it won’t happen. They’ll just print up some t-shirts and maybe some baseball caps with the logo and call it a day. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23968 "2018-08-10T13:34:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m not a defense analyst or military strategist, but why in God’s name would you want to remove any advantage of stealth by introducing a “space force” with great fanfare? Surely the space force ought to be a natural extension of the USAF, with assistance from other divisions of the military and other federal agencies, so why not just keep a low profile? This strikes me as incredibly dumb and potentially provocative. Not to mention: what’s the largest number of people we’ve ever had in space at one time? Somewhere around seven? Does that really qualify as a “force”? And suppose there’s some incident the Space Force needs to respond to, what kind of response times are we looking at, either from space or (more likely) from the ground? Will there be any significant improvement over what we’re already doing right now, besides neato patches on their uniforms? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23969 "2018-08-10T13:38:57Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > He’s going to emblazon the winning design on merch and sell that in his campaign store. I really have to wonder how legal that is. Considering congress doesn’t care about treason, I’m gonna guess this is gonna get a pass. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23970 "2018-08-10T14:08:57Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Considering congress doesn’t care about treason, I’m gonna guess this is gonna get a pass. I think the problem is deeper than congress not caring about treason; it’s tens of millions of voters voting for people who don’t care about treason and who don’t seem to care about a political party that operates in a nakedly corrupt manner. Scott Pruitt, Tom Price, the Trumps blatantly using the White House to enrich their organization. Christ, Wilbur Ross’ former business partners - who probably know something about the guy - are basically saying he robbed them blind. Chris Collins is now indicted for insider trading. And Republicans in states like Kansas and everywhere else seem to believe that culture war is their top priority. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23971 "2018-08-10T14:13:01Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [DUG came up with](https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210983269) some logos. Not really any more professional or compelling than the official ones – except for the one with the banner under the CFSG that says “_Lasers! Pew, Pew, Pew!_” The last one is a version of goatse. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23972 "2018-08-10T14:41:50Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > \*\*The judge ordered the government to turn the plane around and bring the asylum-seeking mother and child back to the US. > > He said that if the situation wasn’t fixed he would consider contempt proceedings — starting with the attorney general.\*\* Those darn activist judges – acting like the law means something. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23973 "2018-08-10T15:06:48Z")
Omarosa, trying to remain relevant, says that Trump used the n- word repeatedly on the set of the Apprentice and witnessed horrible things (racism) in the White House. > **[Omarosa says Trump is a racist who uses N-word – and claims there is...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-trump-book-the-apprentice-memoir)** > > Former Apprentice contestant and ex-White House adviser writes in new memoir that she witnessed ‘truly appalling things’ I don’t doubt it, but what does that say about her? She gave Trump a pass on his racism because she thought she was part of his tribe. Well, apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23974 "2018-08-10T15:07:38Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Those darn activist judges – acting like the law means something. Don’t worry. They’ll be replaced as they die off/resign. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23975 "2018-08-10T15:43:45Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Omarosa, trying to remain relevant, says that Trump used the n- word repeatedly on the set of the Apprentice and witnessed horrible things (racism) in the White House. > > [Omarosa says Trump is a racist who uses N-word – and claims there is tape to prove it | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-trump-book-the-apprentice-memoir) “Reaction from Trump’s base to the news varied widely, ranging from indifferent shrugs to tearful, ecstatic glossolalia.” ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23976 "2018-08-10T15:48:58Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Those darn activist judges – acting like the law means something. Just goes to show that selection of judges is best left to the Heritage Foundation… ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23977 "2018-08-10T16:07:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The first generation isn’t necessarily always poor, either. > > But to your point, the next generation works and pays the taxes. No, the first generation already works and pays taxes. The three dudes who’ve been doing construction work in my house today were all immigrants; they’re all legally employed and paying taxes. I have no idea of their naturalization status, but I know for sure they all “have papers”. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23978 "2018-08-10T16:13:21Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s just more shit that plebians pay for while the plutocrats concentrate even more of their wealth and power. Commoners pay for the defense of the plutocratic state. I kinda doubt the space force happens, but if it does and if it’s created in Trump’s image, it will become a kleptocrat’s wet dream. They just want to build an Elysium-style home for the 1% in advance of Earth becoming a shithole. And the 99% will pay for it! And I don’t get the “Mars Awaits” one. What has that got to do with a military space force? Are they planning an invasion in case we find aliens there? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23979 "2018-08-10T16:25:23Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > They’re all just really bad. We can close the thread. This covers the Trump administration. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23980 "2018-08-10T17:48:20Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > They just want to build an Elysium-style home for the 1% in advance of Earth becoming a shithole. And the 99% will pay for it! > > And I don’t get the “Mars Awaits” one. What has that got to do with a military space force? Are they planning an invasion in case we find aliens there? Soon, Trump supporters will be denying reports that they are spacist. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23981 "2018-08-10T17:51:22Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > They just want to build an Elysium-style home for the 1% in advance of Earth becoming a shithole. And the 99% will pay for it! > > And I don’t get the “Mars Awaits” one. What has that got to do with a military space force? Are they planning an invasion in case we find aliens there? “We need the Space Wall to fight illegal immigration from those MS-Apollo 13 bastards. They’re sending rapists. They’re sending murderers. And some, I’m sure, are very fine aliens. And Marsico will pay for it!” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23982 "2018-08-10T18:19:12Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > No, the first generation already works and pays taxes. The three dudes who’ve been doing construction work in my house today were all immigrants; they’re all legally employed and paying taxes. I have no idea of their naturalization status, but I know for sure they all “have papers”. This ^ I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23983 "2018-08-10T18:24:47Z")
Meanwhile, it looks like Trump won’t need to use EU countries as an excuse to kill NATO; he’s fighting economic jihad against arguably the most important NATO member of them all, Turkey, in an effort to win over Christian zealots. [https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-10/erdogan-answers-lira-s-pleas-with-an-ottoman-slap](https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-10/erdogan-answers-lira-s-pleas-with-an-ottoman-slap) Not that we didn’t already have problems with Turkey predating Trump, but this hardly helps. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23984 "2018-08-10T18:33:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Omarosa, trying to remain relevant, says that Trump used the n- word repeatedly on the set of the Apprentice and witnessed horrible things (racism) in the White House. > > [Omarosa says Trump is a racist who uses N-word – and claims there is tape to prove it | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-trump-book-the-apprentice-memoir) > > I don’t doubt it, but what does that say about her? She gave Trump a pass on his racism because she thought she was part of his tribe. Well, apparently not. So, she wrote a book titled “Unhinged.” Seriously, is this meant to be a description of the White House or the author? I can just imagine her editor reading a draft of the book and picking up the phone: "Hey, I’ve just finished it. It’s… uh, really something. Nobody’s going to believe it. I mean, wow… People will know that you wrote this book. So, uh, I’ve been thinking about a title. How about… Unhinged? [chuckles] [pause] Really? You like it? Okaaaay. I guess we’re done here k thanks bye!’ [call disconnects] “She went for it! I almost lost it, but she’s good with it!” [room erupts with laughter, high fives] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1198) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1200)