# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23985 "2018-08-11T06:45:51Z")

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So Trump is going after legal immigrants now. Wonderful. What about those legal immigrants who enlusted bur have to use foid stamps for their family? Yeah Trump is wonderful…if you’re Satan.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23986 "2018-08-11T06:50:23Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What about those legal immigrants who enlusted bur have to use foid stamps for their family? Yeah Trump is wonderful…if you’re Satan.

Hmmm…I’m guessing it should read as:

“What about those legal immigrants who enlisted, but have to use food stamps for their family? Yeah, Trump is Satan.”

Does that sound better? 😃

Or are you a BOT Monty?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23987 "2018-08-11T09:39:34Z")

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There are almost five million Palestinians living, often under horrid conditions, in the West Bank and Gaza. Whatever you think of the politics, evil and/or blunders which led to this, you can’t deny that _ **Many innocent Palestinians are suffering — suffering from lack of food and medicine not to mention lack of careers, lack of joy, lack of opportunity, lack of hope.** _

In the olden days I was proud to be an American. We could take Israel’s side, yet still try to alleviate the suffering of those Israel persecuted. As recently as 2017 we gave $550 million in aid to the Palestinians. Their suffering is so desperate much of that wasn’t even spent to provide food or medicine — it was spent to provide water and electricity.

Trump had already suspended further payments from these funds. This was to punish Palestinians for the U.S.'s moving their Embassy to Jerusalem. (Punishing the victims of a crime is _de rigueur_ in modern right-wing thought.)

There was some hope that Palestinians might prostrate themselves before The Trump ('Please rape our women Massa; your hands are the biggest hands in all the galaxies") and the food and water might start trickling in again.

But No. Today we learn that a top-level White House meeting, featuring Peace Czar Kushner, Top Koch-Brothers sidekick Pompeo, and the Orange Man with the Giant Hands himself, has decided to make the suspension of aid _permanent_. Funds already promised will be sent back to Treasury, presumably to help finance the next tax cut for the rich.

Make America Great Again.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23988 "2018-08-11T11:27:21Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> There are almost five million Palestinians living, often under horrid conditions, in the West Bank and Gaza. Whatever you think of the politics, evil and/or blunders which led to this, you can’t deny that _ **Many innocent Palestinians are suffering — suffering from lack of food and medicine not to mention lack of careers, lack of joy, lack of opportunity, lack of hope.** _
> 
> In the olden days I was proud to be an American. We could take Israel’s side, yet still try to alleviate the suffering of those Israel persecuted. As recently as 2017 we gave $550 million in aid to the Palestinians. Their suffering is so desperate much of that wasn’t even spent to provide food or medicine — it was spent to provide water and electricity.
> 
> Trump had already suspended further payments from these funds. This was to punish Palestinians for the U.S.'s moving their Embassy to Jerusalem. (Punishing the victims of a crime is _de rigueur_ in modern right-wing thought.)
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> There was some hope that Palestinians might prostrate themselves before The Trump ('Please rape our women Massa; your hands are the biggest hands in all the galaxies") and the food and water might start trickling in again.
> 
> But No. Today we learn that a top-level White House meeting, featuring Peace Czar Kushner, Top Koch-Brothers sidekick Pompeo, and the Orange Man with the Giant Hands himself, has decided to make the suspension of aid _permanent_. Funds already promised will be sent back to Treasury, presumably to help finance the next tax cut for the rich.
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> Make America Great Again.

It’s being complicit in Israeli genocide of Palestinians - full stop. This administration has stocked its cabinet full of extremely right wing Evangelicals and Zionists; recapturing the Holy City for themselves is a modern Crusade.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23989 "2018-08-11T12:57:15Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Hmmm…I’m guessing it should read as:
> 
> “What about those legal immigrants who enlisted, but have to use food stamps for their family? Yeah, Trump is Satan.”
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> Does that sound better? 😃
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> Or are you a BOT Monty?

Yes, much better. I was posting on a new phone, and then had to go somewhere. And, nope, not a bot.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23990 "2018-08-11T13:02:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And, nope, not a bot.

:dubious: Yeah, that’s just what you’d _expect_ a bot to say! :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23991 "2018-08-11T13:56:06Z")

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The White House has called Omarosa a [disgruntled liar](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/10/white-house-slams-omarosa-772554), which fair enough, seems to describe her perfectly. But, this administration is such a clusterfuck that no one bothers to ask the obvious follow up questions where we try to figure out why all of these disgruntled liars were in the White House in the first place.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23992 "2018-08-11T14:02:43Z")

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Trump “not far from the tree” Jr. instagram shares a bullshit doctored news graphic showing orange daddy dipstick with a 50% approval rating side by side with President Obama’s 45%.

> **[Analysis | Trump’s approval hits 50 percent — in a doctored poll graphic...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/08/10/trumps-approval-hits-50-percent-in-a-doctored-poll-graphic-shared-by-his-son/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bba94b068750)**
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> Quite a few people noticed that this wasn't even a quality hoax.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23993 "2018-08-11T14:09:03Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Those darn activist judges – acting like the law means something.

Don’t worry, that puke Kavanaugh will make sure that evil activist judge can’t do anything about anything, once the traitors seat him on the Supremes.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23994 "2018-08-11T14:11:37Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> :dubious: Yeah, that’s just what you’d _expect_ a bot to say! :dubious:

No you would expect a bot to say \<beep\> not a bot \<beep\>.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23995 "2018-08-11T14:12:33Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> It’s being complicit in Israeli genocide of Palestinians - full stop. This administration has stocked its cabinet full of extremely right wing Evangelicals and Zionists; recapturing the Holy City for themselves is a modern Crusade.

Don’t forget about the “end times” guys too. They WANT to trigger a war, and they are real.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23996 "2018-08-11T14:44:58Z")

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Omarosa could make Michael Wolff seem halfway classy.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23997 "2018-08-11T15:51:29Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Don’t worry, that puke Kavanaugh will make sure that evil activist judge can’t do anything about anything, once the traitors seat him on the Supremes.

This is my fear. The more I learn about this guy, the more he makes my stomach churn.

Kavanaugh is going to be worse than fucking Scalia, if that were even possible. In retrospect, I give the Trump/Republican tandem some credit: they saved their worst nominee for last. Gorsuch might be a corporate fanboy, but he at least comes across as erudite and not quite as much of a political activist. Kavanaugh seems to have Scalia tendencies, reversing himself in much the same manner that Scalia did. Twisting logic and facts so that they fit whatever he decides is “right” right now.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23998 "2018-08-11T15:53:07Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Don’t forget about the “end times” guys too. They WANT to trigger a war, and they are real.

I think they’ll settle for making Muslims mad. They seem to get off on watching people in pain and watching them get inflamed with outrage.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/23999 "2018-08-11T15:54:16Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> Omarosa could make Michael Wolff seem halfway classy.

True, but who hired her?

#Onlythebestpeople.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24000 "2018-08-11T17:06:18Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I think they’ll settle for making Muslims mad. They seem to get off on watching people in pain and watching them get inflamed with outrage.

And then use that outrage to justify harming them more.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24001 "2018-08-11T19:06:25Z")

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Trump administration calls endangered species protections a ‘regulatory burden’

> **[Trump administration calls endangered species protections a ‘regulatory burden’](https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401250-trump-administration-calls-current-endangered-species-protections-a/)**
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> Interior Department deputy secretary David Bernhardt says the way the Endangered Species Act (ESA) is implemented today causes an “unnecessary regulatory burden” on U.S. taxpayers …

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24002 "2018-08-12T03:36:54Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> If Putin had any class, he would have left a 20 on the nightstand.

> [@jasg](#):
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> Who knew Joseph Heller was describing Trump in Catch 22…

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> The fucking Constitution says they can’t do it.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> The White House has called Omarosa a [disgruntled liar](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/10/white-house-slams-omarosa-772554), which fair enough, seems to describe her perfectly. But, this administration is such a clusterfuck that no one bothers to ask the obvious follow up questions where we try to figure out why all of these disgruntled liars were in the White House in the first place.

They were happy liars in the White House.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24003 "2018-08-12T05:01:33Z")

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Amy and Marco Becerra, are U.S. citizens. Marco also has Peruvian citizenship, and they moved there a few years ago. Their adopted daughter, Angela, was born there in 2014. Her mother was not capable of supporting her, so she was taken to an orphanage, where the Becerras adopted her. They have legal Peruvian adoption papers.

The Becerras moved back to the United States and brought their daughter with them. Because they had filed for immigration for Angela (legally), she was unable to get a travel visa to come to the United States, so Marco stayed behind in Peru as Amy moved to Colorado. It took 13 months for the United States to get Angela a tourist visa to come to the United States. Her travel visa is about to expire. The United States is refusing to extend her visa, and they are moving to deport her.

A four year old girl, who has no parents, is about to be deported to Peru all by herself, unless her American citizen parents move there with her.

> **[Aurora parents fighting to stop legally adopted 4-year-old daughter from...](https://kdvr.com/news/local/colorado-parents-fighting-to-stop-legally-adopted-four-year-old-daughter-from-being-deported/)**
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> AURORA, Colo. — An Aurora family is scrambling to figure out how to keep their 4-year-old daughter in the United States. Angela Becerra starts pre-kindergarten on Monday. Three weeks into her…

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24004 "2018-08-12T14:35:30Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> The Judge is Not Happy.
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> When the Judge ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy.

It was about a completely different case that’s got nuthin’ to do with this thread, but the coolest sentence I read last week was (translating from Spanish, it loses a few cussing levels in translation):  
“lying in court makes the Baby Jesus cry and the judge get real bitchy.”

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