# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24025 "2018-08-13T15:55:54Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Christ, just how many more tapes does Omarosa have?
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> How did she manage to tape anyone inside the White House so easily?

The voice memos app on the iPhone will record forever, even if the main screen is “off” (like by hitting the power button once).

I’d be surprised to learn that the Android version doesn’t work the same way.

Turn on the app, hit record, place the phone where the mic can easily pick up sounds (like in your hand while you walk around or talk or in a shirt pocket) and you can record your whole day with no one ever thinking about it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24026 "2018-08-13T16:05:40Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The voice memos app on the iPhone will record forever, even if the main screen is “off” (like by hitting the power button once).
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> I’d be surprised to learn that the Android version doesn’t work the same way.
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> Turn on the app, hit record, place the phone where the mic can easily pick up sounds (like in your hand while you walk around or talk or in a shirt pocket) and you can record your whole day with no one ever thinking about it.

I hope she has a lot of shit - to share with Meuller.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24027 "2018-08-13T16:16:03Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I hope she has a lot of shit - to share with Meuller.

Would be surprised if she hasn’t caught Mueller’s attention. What’s Trump gonna say then: Democrat conspiracy?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24028 "2018-08-13T16:19:21Z")

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The fact a person who doesn’t belong in the Situation Room could take a recording device in there indicates an attitude towards security that is absolutely negligent, possibly criminally so.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24029 "2018-08-13T16:24:03Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Would be surprised if she hasn’t caught Mueller’s attention. What’s Trump gonna say then: Democrat conspiracy?

Well, based on the 17 angry Democrats trend and the complete subjugation of the Republican party to Trump, “Democrat” has been redefined to mean “anyone opposed to Trump” which would now include Omarosa.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24030 "2018-08-13T16:30:06Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Christ, just how many more tapes does Omarosa have?
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> How did she manage to tape anyone inside the White House so easily?

Ghouliani is making noises about how the tapes were probably made illegally, but absent some other law in play specifically regarding recordings in the White House, DC is a one party consent jurisdiction.

There may be such a law, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24031 "2018-08-13T16:30:33Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Would be surprised if she hasn’t caught Mueller’s attention. What’s Trump gonna say then: Democrat conspiracy?

Maybe that Omarosa was a spy, hired by Hitlery and Obummer and planted as a mole way way back during _The Apprentice_, so they could use her after he became SCOTUS?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24032 "2018-08-13T16:36:49Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Ghouliani is making noises about how the tapes were probably made illegally, but absent some other law in play specifically regarding recordings in the White House, DC is a one party consent jurisdiction.
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> There may be such a law, I don’t know.

NETA I guess it hinges on whether the tape was made in the Situation Room.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24033 "2018-08-13T16:36:52Z")

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Given the massive respect he has for black people in general and women in particular, that is a pretty obvious call.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24034 "2018-08-13T16:40:21Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Maybe that Omarosa was a spy, hired by Hitlery and Obummer and planted as a mole way way back during _The Apprentice_, so they could use her after he became SCOTUS?

Waitaminnit — when did he subsume the entire Supreme Court? Is he The Borg, or (more likely) The Blob?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24035 "2018-08-13T16:48:12Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The fact a person who doesn’t belong in the Situation Room could take a recording device in there indicates an attitude towards security that is absolutely negligent, possibly criminally so.

Unless they strip search everybody or have metal detectors at the door, there is no way to stop someone who wants to break the law in this fashion.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24036 "2018-08-13T16:49:06Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> NETA I guess it hinges on whether the tape was made in the Situation Room.

Knowing his level of awareness, I’m guessing that he thinks the Situation Room is any room in the WH with a television that he can watch Jersey Shore on.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24037 "2018-08-13T17:07:54Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Unless they strip search everybody or have metal detectors at the door, there is no way to stop someone who wants to break the law in this fashion.

Any person willing to break the law in this fashion shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24038 "2018-08-13T17:07:59Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Maybe that Omarosa was a spy, hired by Hitlery and Obummer and planted as a mole way way back during _The Apprentice_, so they could use her after he became SCOTUS?

So much to enjoy about the Omarosa contretemps, not the least of which is that it’s a 100% self-inflicted Trumpian scandal. No Democrats were harmed in the production of this bullshit; pass the popcorn.

“Only the best people”.

So why the hell were they using the Situation Room for a personnel discussion?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24039 "2018-08-13T17:17:40Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> So why the hell were they using the Situation Room for a personnel discussion?

Because they had one hell of a\* Situation.\*

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24040 "2018-08-13T17:22:20Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Any person willing to break the law in this fashion shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

I agree. But most secure areas don’t have metal detectors and strip searches. It doesn’t indicate a lack of security.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24041 "2018-08-13T17:23:42Z")

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## Peter Strzok got fired this morning.

Stephen Miller’s uncle wrote a scathing piece for Politico about their immigrant family and Stephen’s lack of acknowledgement of it  
[https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/13/stephen-miller-is-an-immigration-hypocrite-i-know-because-im-his-uncle-219351](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/13/stephen-miller-is-an-immigration-hypocrite-i-know-because-im-his-uncle-219351)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24042 "2018-08-13T17:28:17Z")

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As a district court judge, Brett Kavanagh ruled that people who are mentally incapacitated don’t have the right to self-determination on whether or not to have surgery.

> **[Kavanaugh Thinks It's Okay to Perform Elective Surgery on People Without...](https://talkpoverty.org/2018/08/09/kavanaugh-thinks-okay-perform-elective-surgery-people-without-consent/)**
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> Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court ruled against people with disabilities who were submitted to surgery—including abortions—that they didn't want.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24043 "2018-08-13T17:29:24Z")

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[Explaining the complexities of the world to the Dotard-in-Chief:](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/13/trump-world-knowledge-diplomatic-774801)

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> Several times in the first year of his administration, President Donald Trump wanted to call Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in the middle of the afternoon. But there was a problem. Midafternoon in Washington is the middle of the night in Tokyo – when Abe would be fast asleep.
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> Trump’s aides had to explain the issue, which one diplomatic source said came up on “a constant basis,” but it wasn’t easy…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24044 "2018-08-13T17:36:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> ## Peter Strzok got fired this morning.
> 
> Stephen Miller’s uncle wrote a scathing piece for Politico about their immigrant family and Stephen’s lack of acknowledgement of it  
> [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/13/stephen-miller-is-an-immigration-hypocrite-i-know-because-im-his-uncle-219351](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/13/stephen-miller-is-an-immigration-hypocrite-i-know-because-im-his-uncle-219351)

Many props to Miller’s uncle. At least someone in his family was raised right.

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