# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 121
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2401 "2017-03-12T17:32:08Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I get that you’re not a fan of Communists and all, neither am I, but you still haven’t provided any reliable sourcing that Ivana and Melania were raised as Communists. How about “Raised by communists during their early years, in a communist society, surrounded by communist ideals”? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2402 "2017-03-12T17:34:38Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > How about “Raised by communists during their early years, in a communist society, surrounded by communist ideals”? Assumes facts not in evidence (it’s on record that Melania’s father was a Communist Party member, not that Ivana’s parents were). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2403 "2017-03-12T17:39:05Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > What about the vile statements made about conservatives by your colleagues on this board? Are those okay?:mad: More excuses and deflection of blame from a gutless coward. When are you going to grow up and take responsibility for your own mistakes? ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2404 "2017-03-12T17:58:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Now Trump isn’t, yet, implicated in the sex trade aspect of human trafficking, I can concede that. However, there is quite a vast market for illegal immigrants to do undocumented work, and [Trump profited mightily from this aspect of the global trade in human beings via his modelling agency.](https://newrepublic.com/minutes/136447/trumps-modeling-agency-virtual-sweatshop-hired-undocumented-immigrants) a report from your second link. “Living in the apartment during a sweltering New York summer, Kate picked a top bunk near a street-level window in the hopes of getting a little fresh air. She awoke one morning to something splashing her face. “Oh, maybe it’s raining today,” she recalled thinking. But when she peered out the window, “I saw the one-eyed monster pissing on me,” she said. “There was a bum pissing on my window, splashing me in my Trump Model bed.”Such a glamorous industry,” she said.” A bum? This seems like a familiar story…😃 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2405 "2017-03-12T18:19:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > How about “Raised by communists during their early years, in a communist society, surrounded by communist ideals”? Kinda like how over 90% of Americans identify as pro-democracy, though they haven’t studied government since 11th grade. It’s only the very basis of our system. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2406 "2017-03-12T18:22:33Z")
Let’s not forget that Melania Trump is the first First Lady to be raised being taught America is the enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2407 "2017-03-12T18:25:03Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Assumes facts not in evidence (it’s on record that Melania’s father was a Communist Party member, not that Ivana’s parents were). oh ok ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2408 "2017-03-12T18:34:26Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > What about the vile statements made about conservatives by your colleagues on this board? Are those okay?:mad: I’ve argued against many such statements. Besides, charges of hypocrisy do literally nothing to excuse your own boorish behavior. Speck, plank, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2409 "2017-03-12T18:41:40Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I get that you’re not a fan of Communists and all, neither am I, but you still haven’t provided any reliable sourcing that Ivana and Melania were raised as Communists. Melania’s father was a card carrying member of the Communist Party when few people in Slovenia were. That’s a documented fact. You think he had absolutely no influence on Melania’s upbringing? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2410 "2017-03-12T18:53:06Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Melania’s father was a card carrying member of the Communist Party when few people in Slovenia were. That’s a documented fact. You think he had absolutely no influence on Melania’s upbringing? She’s not a Communist now, and she hasn’t been for decades I’m assuming (I’m still not sold she ever was). She’s a member of the Republican Party now, supported her Republican husband, etc etc. I don’t do speculation; I do hard facts. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2411 "2017-03-12T19:04:19Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > She’s not a Communist now, and she hasn’t been for decades I’m assuming (I’m still not sold she ever was). She’s a member of the Republican Party now, supported her Republican husband, etc etc. > > I don’t do speculation;\*\* I do hard facts.\*\* I’ve read your previous posts. Liar. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2412 "2017-03-12T19:06:11Z")
[A man walked into a Middle Eastern restaurant in Salem, Oregon, told a woman working there that she was no longer a slave and was free to leave, then attacked a restaurant employee with a pipe.](http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/crime/2017/03/10/man-arrested-suspect-hate-crime-salem-restaurant/99008530/) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2413 "2017-03-12T20:28:42Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Actually, I am going to give **ckalli** credit for making me realize I was being completely unfair to the women I blithely, and wrongly, called “Eastern European whores”. \ According to Gilbert Gottfried, Trump is well-versed in [Eastern European Whores](https://youtu.be/PI9emLcjMOk?t=33) ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2414 "2017-03-12T21:02:53Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I believe the majority of those are aimed at Trump supporters. Who may or may not be actual conservatives. The intelligent conservatives on this board have stepped away from Trump, on account of him being a narcissistic sociopathic lying douchebag. At best they want the Republicans to leverage his ignorance to implement conservative policies. The “Trump supporters” we have on this board are mostly the least intelligent of the conservatives (e.g., **Clothahump** , who might be legitimately retarded), and the trolls. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2415 "2017-03-12T21:23:47Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > The intelligent conservatives on this board have stepped away from Trump, on account of him being a narcissistic sociopathic lying douchebag. At best they want the Republicans to leverage his ignorance to implement conservative policies. > > The “Trump supporters” we have on this board are mostly the **least intelligent** of the conservatives (e.g., **Clothahump** , who might be legitimately retarded), and the trolls. I’d say “blindly, fanatically partisan”. I see plenty of sTrumpets on CNN who are clearly intelligent, just gulping the Kool-Aid like there’s nothing else to drink. ETA: doesn’t mean **Clothy’s** not a raving moron. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2416 "2017-03-12T21:30:47Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > The intelligent conservatives on this board have stepped away from Trump, on account of him being a narcissistic sociopathic lying douchebag. At best they want the Republicans to leverage his ignorance to implement conservative policies. > > The “Trump supporters” we have on this board are mostly the least intelligent of the conservatives (e.g., **Clothahump** , who might be legitimately retarded), and the trolls. You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.” What a gratuitous attack to make against a fellow Dope member. According to exit polls from CNN and CBS, over 90 percent of Republican voted for Trump in November. Are they all mentally deficient, oh great one? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2417 "2017-03-12T21:38:12Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.” What an odd comment from someone who’s only been posting here a few days and hasn’t interacted with **Clothahump** at all. > [@](#): > > What a gratuitous attack to make against a fellow Dope member. You’ve done nothing but attack Dope members (a large percentage of whom are liberal) since you started posting. So maybe you should reflect on your own behavior before commenting on others, hmmmm? > [@](#): > > According to exit polls from CNN and CBS, over 90 percent of Republican voted for Trump in November. Are they all mentally deficient, oh great one? The ones who voted for Trump because they though he’d make a good president are ignorant or stupid, no exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2418 "2017-03-12T21:39:01Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.” We have a great many implications, most of them written by Clothahump himself. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2419 "2017-03-12T21:47:33Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > The ones who voted for Trump because they **thought** he’d make a good president are ignorant or stupid, no exceptions. Not think, know. We knew he’d make a great president, and he has been one so far, keeping his promises so far with rapid-fire speed. Obviously, he’s only been here for two months, and we realize that not all of his campaign promises will be completed in such short time, unlike his whiny critics. His term is for four years, after all, during which time he’ll go further to keep his promises and Make America Great Again. Already he’s nominated Neil Gorsuch, a great conservative judge, to the Supreme Court, got the coal industry spinning again ([https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html](https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html)), repealed excessive regulations harming our economy, and a lot more. #MAGA:cool:🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2420 "2017-03-12T21:53:17Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Not think, know. We knew he’d make a great president, and he has been one so far, keeping his promises so far with rapid-fire speed. Obviously, he’s only been here for two months, and we realize that not all of his campaign promises will be completed in such short time, unlike his whiny critics. His term is for four years, after all, during which time he’ll go further to keep his promises and Make America Great Again. Already he’s nominated Neil Gorsuch, a great conservative judge, to the Supreme Court, got the coal industry spinning again ([https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html](https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html)), repealed excessive regulations harming our economy, and a lot more. #MAGA:cool:🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒 Yeah…you haven’t addressed this thing about jumping to the defense of someone you’ve never interacted with. Remind me again why you said “You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.””, when, if you have only been posting to this board for a few days, you have no idea what evidence I have of **Clothahump’s** intelligence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=120) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=122)