# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1217
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24325 "2018-08-22T19:31:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You think Trump has read _Don Quixote_? Or even seen _Man of La Mancha_? I don’t think he can read without moving his lips. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24326 "2018-08-22T19:34:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Steven Tyler’s attorney has sent Trump a cease and desist letter ordering him to stop using Aerosmith songs at his rallies. > [Steven Tyler Demands Trump Stop Playing Aerosmith Songs at Rallies](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/steven-tyler-demands-trump-stop-102242245.html) I have a Facebook acquaintance who dearly loves 2 things more than life itself: Donald Trump and Steven Tyler. This news would make her head explode … except she gets all her news from Fox so she’ll probably never know. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24327 "2018-08-22T19:36:28Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I have a Facebook acquaintance who dearly loves 2 things more than life itself: Donald Trump and Steven Tyler. This news would make her head explode … except she gets all her news from Fox so she’ll probably never know. Send her [this link](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/22/steven-tyler-sends-trump-cease-and-desist-letter-over-playing-aerosmith-songs-at-rallies.html) ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24328 "2018-08-22T19:38:03Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I have a Facebook acquaintance who dearly loves 2 things more than life itself: Donald Trump and Steven Tyler. This news would make her head explode … except she gets all her news from Fox so she’ll probably never know. What’s stopping you from sharing the news to her page? I’ll pop the popcorn. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24329 "2018-08-22T19:40:52Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I have a Facebook acquaintance who dearly loves 2 things more than life itself: Donald Trump and Steven Tyler. This news would make her head explode … except she gets all her news from Fox so she’ll probably never know. Used to love Aerosmith. Meh anymore. But my respect for Tyler just went up quite a bit. He might as well get in line to sue the stupid asshole. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24330 "2018-08-22T19:41:19Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You think Trump has read _Don Quixote_? Or even seen _Man of La Mancha_? Perhaps he paid someone to read it for him in college. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24331 "2018-08-22T19:49:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The lies rolled out of his Big Mac-hole like a barrel of marbles emptied at the top of a ski jump. > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I now have a new goal in life. I may be able to help with that. I’ve heard of a fundraiser they do in Lake Placid where they sell raffle tickets, and each one corresponds to a golf ball. The balls are rolled off the ski jump, the one that goes the farthest, wins. Found a mention that they did it [last year](http://www.nysef.org/golf-ball-roll-supports-nysef-nordic-ski-programs/). Can’t find it on this year’s calendar, but it’s worth a try. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24332 "2018-08-22T19:54:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But when the camera moved around the crowd, nada. Zero, zilch, zip. The crowd is always lily-white. The occasional black person is pulled out and placed behind Trump for the TV coverage. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24333 "2018-08-22T19:56:45Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > OK, I’m convinced. I’m going to vote for a Republican just this once. > …is not something you really expect anyone to say, is it? But does Trump care? He probably didn’t really want to win this election. Now that he’s had a few years on the job, I imagine he wants it even less, except for the possibility of keeping his ass out of jail/bankruptcy. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24334 "2018-08-22T20:17:28Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Isn’t it just as easy to bomb a coal mine as it is to bomb a windmill? one could just start a fire… > **[Centralia, Pennsylvania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,_Pennsylvania)** > > Centralia is a borough and near-ghost town in Columbia County, Pennsylvania, United States. It is part of Northeastern Pennsylvania. Its population declined from 1,000 in 1980 to five residents in 2020 because a coal mine fire has been burning beneath the borough since 1962. Centralia, part of the Bloomsburg–Berwick metropolitan area, is the least-populated municipality in Pennsylvania. It is completely surrounded by Conyngham Township. > All real estate in the borough was claimed under eminent ... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24335 "2018-08-22T20:20:20Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Perhaps he paid someone to read it for him in college. He might have had a copy of the Classics Illustrated version. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24336 "2018-08-22T20:21:24Z")
Even if coal mines were indestructible, the analogous resource would be the wind, not the windmill. Good luck bombing that. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24337 "2018-08-22T20:29:10Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > My bold. > > If he passed eVerify, then there would have been no reason for the employer to think he was undocumented. Not that its a good look for the Iowa GOP, but they can pretty easily deflect that blame. Turns out he didn’t pass eVerify, the employer used the SSA verification system. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24338 "2018-08-22T20:44:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > He might have had a copy of the Classics Illustrated version. That might work, since he would only have to [look at the pictures.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRglG_Ucr_7AVsoI6oScnDt_7mgIOoNPQdUhivsMvyqr5uKJjKVzw) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24339 "2018-08-22T20:57:17Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > That might work, since he would only have to [look at the pictures.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRglG_Ucr_7AVsoI6oScnDt_7mgIOoNPQdUhivsMvyqr5uKJjKVzw) That was my point. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24340 "2018-08-22T21:30:41Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > The crowd is always lily-white. The occasional black person is pulled out and placed behind Trump for the TV coverage. Of course! Why didn’t I think of that? Must have been all the drugs. Or maybe just some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24341 "2018-08-22T21:40:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Cohen’s lawyer, Lanny Davis, is making the talk show circuit today saying that Cohen is going to be talking to Mueller and that he would not ask for or accept a pardon from Trump. > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/22/michael-cohen-attorney-lanny-davis-we-would-not-accept-trump-pardon.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/22/michael-cohen-attorney-lanny-davis-we-would-not-accept-trump-pardon.html) Does it matter if he doesn’t accept it? Does he have the power to say “No! No! Keep me in!” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24342 "2018-08-22T21:40:32Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You think Trump has read _Don Quixote_? Or even seen _Man of La Mancha_? He comes from a privileged background, not lacking in materials for education. His parents were not really fools either, and would have desired to expose him to culture. He may have read the picture book. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24343 "2018-08-22T21:42:14Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Does it matter if he doesn’t accept it? Does he have the power to say “No! No! Keep me in!” Pretty sure he has to officially sign something admitting guilt. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24344 "2018-08-22T22:26:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That crowd was whiter than the Mormon Tabernacle Choir on a field trip to Antarctica. When the camera was centered on Himself, you could see two black people, one to his right, one to his left. One enthusiastic, one just a lump. But when the camera moved around the crowd, nada. Zero, zilch, zip. > … > > Yusta be, the crowd would come crashing over him in waves of wild enthusiasm, he was forced to stop speaking and just absorb the adoration, six, seven, ten times per speech. That’s why he was jumping from lie to lie, looking for one that still had the Power. OK, not that one, next! … Great description. Yes, he’s slipping. I always look for information on the venue in which these rallies are held, which for some reason reporters appear to find irrelevant. The rally before this one was held in a high school gym, for example–that should be relevant. This one was held at the Charleston Convention Center, but I don’t know in which of their available venues—which stretch from the convention center proper (the ‘Coliseum’) down to the Little Theater and various Executive Suites. But even if he did manage to fill the Coliseum–and they do love him around there, so maybe he did–he’s still slipping. Helsinki is still sinking in for those people. Trump’s obvious deference to Putin does not strike them as particularly glorious. He’s a second-rate bully, and they prefer first-rate ones. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > …It _will_ be the rule of law that holds the line against the Trumpists. It is the courts that have stopped Trump’s worst abuses against the rule of law. … I hope so, but it has to happen fast. Trump is replacing judges at an alarming rate. And the new ones are pro-authoritarian to a man. (Using ‘man’ advisedly.) > [@bobot](#): > > 2 Things: > One: Sherred, I don’t know what your avatar is, but it looks like a hit of blotter acid. > … Well, I wanted something personal, but not something that would excite the ire of the Administrators. So I took the logo of my self-publishing company and twisted it so that it wouldn’t be readable. I’m just assuming that ‘advertising’ is disallowed, but that seems a safe assumption. Anyway, the shot of color makes it easy to find my own posts if I need to look something up. I guess if someone else has an avatar that’s the same colors, I might change mine. Or, I guess, if anyone has any acid flashbacks due to the sight of my avatar. Let me know! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1216) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1218)