# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 122
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2421 "2017-03-12T21:57:34Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Yeah…you haven’t addressed this thing about jumping to the defense of someone you’ve never interacted with. Remind me again why you said “You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.””, when, if you have only been posting to this board for a few days, you have no idea what evidence I have of **Clothahump’s** intelligence. Because of the amount of Trump-bashing that goes on here, I felt compelled to defend a fellow Trump supporter against scurrilous, evidence-free accusations. I’ve seen posters accusing Trump supporters of being stupid and so on, just generalizing their vitriol. You can’t tell someone’s mental state by what they post online; you’re not a damn psychologist. You haven’t examined **Clothahump** , and it is disgusting to make a vitriolic accusation like that ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2422 "2017-03-12T22:00:32Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Because of the amount of Trump-bashing that goes on here, I felt compelled to defend a fellow Trump supporter against scurrilous, evidence-free accusations. This only demonstrates you’ve never read any of Clothahump’s posts. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2423 "2017-03-12T22:04:00Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Not think, know. We knew he’d make a great president, and he has been one so far, keeping his promises so far with rapid-fire speed. Obviously, he’s only been here for two months, and we realize that not all of his campaign promises will be completed in such short time, unlike his whiny critics. His term is for four years, after all, during which time he’ll go further to keep his promises and Make America Great Again. Already he’s nominated Neil Gorsuch, a great conservative judge, to the Supreme Court, got the coal industry spinning again ([https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html](https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html)), repealed excessive regulations harming our economy, and a lot more. #MAGA:cool:🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒 Nothing can take effect that fast. [From Nov 8,2016](http://www.register-herald.com/news/upswing-seen-in-coal-s-price-and-production/article_2b40fa69-b4fe-5395-baa2-d4a4718a5159.html) > [@](#): > > The battered coal industry has received some good news lately. > > Nationally, prices and production were up the last few weeks, while regionally some lucky coal miners are being called back to work. > > For the week ending Oct. 29, estimated U.S. coal production totaled approximately 17 million short tons, about 3.3 percent higher than the previous week’s estimate and 2 percent higher than the production estimate in the comparable week in 2015, according to the U.S. Energy Information Agency. > > The positive trends filtered down to southern West Virginia. Late last week, the Justice Corporation announced it is calling back 375 coal mines as it reopen six mines and a processing plant in Raleigh, Wyoming and McDowell counties. Look at that. West Virginia, same as your cite. But during Obama’s term. You might say that FoxNews is biased in their reporting by making it look like you can just unlock a door and a dormant mine springs to life. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2424 "2017-03-12T22:15:14Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Because of the amount of Trump-bashing that goes on here, I felt compelled to defend a fellow Trump supporter against scurrilous, evidence-free accusations. I’ve seen posters accusing Trump supporters of being stupid and so on, just generalizing their vitriol. You can’t tell someone’s mental state by what they post online; you’re not a damn psychologist. You haven’t examined **Clothahump** , and it is disgusting to make a vitriolic accusation like that Still making excuses for others and deflecting blame, huh, you gutless plagiarist? You’re not a patriot, coward. If you were truly a patriot and thought it was important to put American lives at risk for something, you’d have the courage to place yourself alongside those Americans you’re willing to put in harm’s way. But you’re not. Because you’re a pathetic gutless worm, at least by your posts. You can correct this, though. Sign up for the military, you’ll at least be able to say that you have the courage to stand by your convictions even when they put people at risk. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2425 "2017-03-12T22:32:02Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Not think, know. We knew he’d make a great president, and he has been one so far, keeping his promises so far with rapid-fire speed. Obviously, he’s only been here for two months, and we realize that not all of his campaign promises will be completed in such short time, unlike his whiny critics. His term is for four years, after all, during which time he’ll go further to keep his promises and Make America Great Again. Already he’s nominated Neil Gorsuch, a great conservative judge, to the Supreme Court, got the coal industry spinning again ([https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html](https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.amp.html)), repealed excessive regulations harming our economy, and a lot more. #MAGA:cool:🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒 At the risk of cross-posting from a previous thread, [**Left Hand of Dorkness** has addressed this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20059727&postcount=207). Have you read it? Please do, and respond. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2426 "2017-03-12T23:09:05Z")
So much for [Trump’s promises to take care of everybody with their health care or it to be less expensive.](https://thinkprogress.org/trump-obamcare-replacement-breaks-more-promises-42b2fda950f#.xjlrzmz3d) [http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Hospitals-worry-about-caring-for-newly-uninsured-10995990.php](http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Hospitals-worry-about-caring-for-newly-uninsured-10995990.php) > [@](#): > > Denver Health could see revenue losses between $50 million and $85 million by 2020, which is between 5 and 9 percent of their annual revenue, according to the hospital’s chief financial officer. Adding to the financial anxiety is that Denver Health and many other hospital systems and medical providers across the country still would be required to care for many of the same patients, even if they lost their health coverage. That would leave hospitals, state and local governments, or privately insured patients to foot the bill. > > “If it’s full removal of Medicaid expansion, we would have to make cuts on our system, and I really think that those cuts would roll back our progress and could paradoxically increase the cost of care by driving care back to where it shouldn’t be — in the emergency rooms,” said Dr. Bill Burman, interim chief executive for Denver Health. > > Similar sentiments are being shared by hospital CEOs across the country as President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans make good on their promise to undo the Affordable Care Act. > > The Republican plan would limit the amount of federal money available to states that opted to expand Medicaid, the state-federal program that provides health coverage to the poor and lower-income people. It also would overhaul the framework of Medicaid generally so that in the future states would receive a limited amount per person based on enrollment and costs. Health care advocates have said such a change would mean less Medicaid money for the states. > > The Republican proposal would boost one revenue stream for hospitals that had been cut under Obama’s plan — a pool of money helping hospitals that care for a disproportionately high share of uninsured patients. But hospital CEOs say that money will not come close to making up for the revenue lost if large numbers of people lose their health coverage. > > The American Hospital Association, which represents nearly 5,000 institutions nationwide and the Catholic Health Association of the United States, the nation’s largest not-for-profit health provider, wrote Congress warning that the bill would lead to significant cuts in a program that provides services to the most vulnerable. > > “We are likely looking at situations where hospitals would close down service lines, shorten clinic hours and lay off staff,” said Beth Feldpush, a senior vice president at America’s Essential Hospitals. Oh yeah, so much about jobs too in health care too. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2427 "2017-03-13T00:04:57Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > \against scurrilous, evidence-free accusations.\ Trump does this on a daily basis. Birther nonsense, Obama’s wiretapping, activist judges. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2428 "2017-03-13T01:33:22Z")
“Trump’s budget director claims Obama was ‘manipulating’ jobs data” [Trump's budget director claims Obama was 'manipulating' jobs data](http://cnnmon.ie/2mzqERm) via @CNNMoney > [@](#): > > Mick Mulvaney told CNN’s Jake Tapper on Sunday that he has long thought the previous administration framed data to make the unemployment rate “look smaller than it actually was.” > > “What you should really look at is the number of jobs created,” Mulvaney said on “State of the Union.” “We’ve thought for a long time, I did, that the Obama administration was manipulating the numbers, in terms of the number of people in the workforce, to make the unemployment rate – that percentage rate – look smaller than it actually was.” > > Trump repeatedly railed on the unemployment rate during Obama’s time in office as a “hoax.” > > Trump once claimed that he had “heard” the rate could be as high as 42% – even though at the time it was about 5%. > … > > The BLS is the Department of Labor agency responsible for compiling a vast store of government data about jobs that is used by businesses, economists and investors to judge the health of the U.S. economy. > … > > **The agency has used the same method for calculating the unemployment rate since 1940.** > … My bold. What the fuck is the matter with three people?? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2429 "2017-03-13T01:40:25Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.” What a gratuitous attack to make against a fellow Dope member. According to exit polls from CNN and CBS, over 90 percent of Republican voted for Trump in November. Are they all mentally deficient, oh great one? I think the evidence is that when I have tried to engage him in a serious topic, he has simply responded by saying “fuck off”, and that’s that. Really, he’s just that pathetic. He was recently suspended for admitting that his posts here are made specifically to troll people. It’s how he gets his jollies. ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2430 "2017-03-13T01:47:14Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You have no evidence that **Clothahump** is “retarded.” What a gratuitous attack to make against a fellow Dope member. According to exit polls from CNN and CBS, over 90 percent of Republican voted for Trump in November. Are they all mentally deficient, oh great one? He’s also someone who regularly refers to Latinos as “wetbacks” and addresses black posters as “Buckwheat”. Maybe you should have sniffed first before jamming your tongue up his asshole. You know, unless you’re just another sniveling Klan fucker like he is … which is looking more and more likely with every post. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2431 "2017-03-13T02:35:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Trump’s budget director claims Obama was ‘manipulating’ jobs data” > [Trump's budget director claims Obama was 'manipulating' jobs data](http://cnnmon.ie/2mzqERm) via @CNNMoney > My bold. > > What the fuck is the matter with three people?? They do this because they have an army of ignoramuses who will believe them. And just to make it seem like they don’t swallow every Shit Gibbon lie, the one using the single, shared brain cell that will disagree. That way, the ignoramus army can all eventually say, “Well, I don’t believe _everything_.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2432 "2017-03-13T02:39:36Z")
> [@1iLeft](#): > > [Donald Trump Says ‘Second Amendment People’ Can Stop Hillary Clinton From Curbing Gun Rights](https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-second-amendment-people-can-stop-hillary-clinton-from-curbing-gun-rights-1470773378) His supporters really love to talk shit about gunning down anyone who isn’t them. They are still doing it. I wish to hell they would try. Shit or get off the pot, you pussies. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2433 "2017-03-13T02:44:05Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > What an odd comment from someone who’s only been posting here a few days and hasn’t interacted with **Clothahump** at all. > > You’ve done nothing but attack Dope members (a large percentage of whom are liberal) since you started posting. So maybe you should reflect on your own behavior before commenting on others, hmmmm? > > The ones who voted for Trump because they though he’d make a good president are ignorant or stupid, no exceptions. Some of us have read Clothy’s posts for several years. He’s just special, bless his heart. A water headed moron, for sure. The newb there is about the same. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2434 "2017-03-13T15:48:57Z")
Kellyanne Conway reveals another CIA surveillance tool while dodging a question about whether she believes Lord Dampnut’s claim that Obama put a tapp on his wires and stole his strawberries: [QUOTE=Kellyanne “Bubble-Headed Bleach Blonde” Conway] There was an article this week – you can be spied on via a camera in your microwave [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2435 "2017-03-13T17:30:04Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Kellyanne Conway reveals another CIA surveillance tool while dodging a question about whether she believes Lord Dampnut’s claim that Obama put a tapp on his wires and stole his strawberries: What’s the opposite of a confederacy of dunces? “When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.” --J. Swift When a true imbecile appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the rational are all in confederacy against him. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2436 "2017-03-13T20:43:44Z")
Sean Spicer doesn’t think the President meant wiretapping when he said “How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones” [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--7tc7p-8w) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2437 "2017-03-13T20:46:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sean Spicer doesn’t think the President meant wiretapping when he said “How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones” > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--7tc7p-8w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--7tc7p-8w) When Sen. McCain said that the White House had 2 options: (a) produce evidence of wiretapping or (b) retract the accusation, they hadn’t counted on the geniuses there coming up with a 3rd: (c) redefine the word “wiretapping” to mean whatever they want it to mean and subject to whatever proof they want. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2438 "2017-03-13T21:09:53Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > When Sen. McCain said that the White House had 2 options: (a) produce evidence of wiretapping or (b) retract the accusation, they hadn’t counted on the geniuses there coming up with a 3rd: (c) redefine the word “wiretapping” to mean whatever they want it to mean and subject to whatever proof they want. i heard, as their next trick,they will redefine what “is” is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2439 "2017-03-13T21:28:40Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sean Spicer doesn’t think the President meant wiretapping when he said “How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones” > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--7tc7p-8w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--7tc7p-8w) Of course, the liberal fake news just twisted Trumps words, like they always do. Tap can mean many things and they just picked the only meaning that made Trump look like a liar. Bad Media, here’s some alternate fact scenarios. Maybe Obama came over in October and lightly struck the phone with his fingertips. That was very bad manners and who can blame Trump for his outrage. Maybe he was trying to be hip and cool and meant “tap” as in “I’d tap that”. Because Trump Tower has the sexiest phones ever, just ask anyone. Hot, busty Eastern European phones that suck tennis balls through the phone lines. Everyone wants to tap those wires. Or maybe he fills the phone lines with beer and sweet sweet maple syrup. People that love beer and waffles dream of pilgrimages to Trump Tower to tap those phones. And Obamacare is a beer and waffles kind of guy for sure, case closed. And maybe those beer and waffles made him want to put little metal plates on his shoes and dance up a storm. Right on top of the phone wires. Shuffle shuffle step ball change. Go Obama, tap those phones. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2440 "2017-03-14T04:17:07Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Of course, the liberal fake news just twisted Trumps words, like they always do. Tap can mean many things and they just picked the only meaning that made Trump look like a liar. Bad Media, here’s some alternate fact scenarios. > > Maybe Obama came over in October and lightly struck the phone with his fingertips. That was very bad manners and who can blame Trump for his outrage. > > Maybe he was trying to be hip and cool and meant “tap” as in “I’d tap that”. Because Trump Tower has the sexiest phones ever, just ask anyone. Hot, busty Eastern European phones that suck tennis balls through the phone lines. Everyone wants to tap those wires. > > Or maybe he fills the phone lines with beer and sweet sweet maple syrup. People that love beer and waffles dream of pilgrimages to Trump Tower to tap those phones. And Obamacare is a beer and waffles kind of guy for sure, case closed. And maybe those beer and waffles made him want to put little metal plates on his shoes and dance up a storm. Right on top of the phone wires. Shuffle shuffle step ball change. Go Obama, tap those phones. Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Brilliant! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=121) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=123)