# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24385 "2018-08-23T18:18:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He also said if he’s impeached, the stock market will crash and everybody will be poor.

So now he’s taking hostages.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24386 "2018-08-23T18:19:56Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Jeff Sessions has had enough, and fired back at Trump.  
> [https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/sessions-fires-back-trump-doj-investigations-will-not-improperly-influenced-politics/](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/sessions-fires-back-trump-doj-investigations-will-not-improperly-influenced-politics/)

“The only reason I gave him the job I felt loyalty.”

Really? The only reason? Nothing to do with his qualifications at all?\*

Only the best people.  
\*Not debating the merits of Sessions’ ‘qualifications,’ but that should have been a starting point, at least.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24387 "2018-08-23T18:31:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So now he’s taking hostages.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24388 "2018-08-23T18:32:53Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> “The only reason I gave him the job I felt loyalty.”
> 
> Really? The only reason? Nothing to do with his qualifications at all?\*
> 
> Only the best people.  
> \*Not debating the merits of Sessions’ ‘qualifications,’ but that should have been a starting point, at least.

Can you imagine that? You hire a guy because he is loyal to you, and right off the bat he goes and considers the rule of law. Sad.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24389 "2018-08-23T18:54:18Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> “The only reason I gave him the job I felt loyalty.”
> 
> Really? The only reason? Nothing to do with his qualifications at all?\*
> 
> Only the best people.

Yeah, that caught my eye too. I mean, we pretty much always knew that this was his only real criteria for giving someone a job, but I didn’t expect him to just admit it like that.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24390 "2018-08-23T19:16:22Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Isn’t it just as easy to bomb a coal mine as it is to bomb a windmill?

Don’t take my word for it, but last I checked coal burned.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24391 "2018-08-23T19:31:28Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 😕 I recognize all of the individual words in this post, but not in this order.  
> Near as I can tell people thought there was one estimated time of arrival because horses are punctual and zerbras are not, and that 212 people died but one didn’t count because he was a few days from being aged?
> 
> Please try again, I’m genuinely curious.

ETA is Euskadi Ta Askatasuna, a Basque-independentist terrorist group which among other things has to its name the deaths of Franco’s VP ([Admiral Carrero Blanco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Carrero_Blanco)) in Madrid in 1973, of former Minister of Health [Ernest Lluch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Lluch) in 2000, multiple police officers (often accompanied by their children), several reporters (the director of Diario de Navarra survived over 20 bullets, Spanish [wiki](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Javier_Uranga)) and what before 11M was the biggest terrorist murder in the history of Spain, the [Hipercor Bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Hipercor_bombing) in Barcelona.

Horses not zebras because when you have people who have been bombing the country for over forty years, you don’t think “OMG, we just imported a bunch of terrorists!”. If you see a burning cross in a front yard, do you think “Scottish war party” or do you think “Ku Klux Klan”?

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24392 "2018-08-23T19:36:45Z")

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“Scottish War Party” - BAND NAME!

_Were still doing that, right?_

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24393 "2018-08-23T19:37:51Z")

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And the minus a few days refers to an unborn baby who would have counted as a victim if he’d been killed in an accident, a robbery or domestic violence but which PSOE doesn’t consider counts as its death was the result of political terrorism and not of some more modest ways of dying.

ETA: we’re always looking for band names.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24394 "2018-08-23T19:47:50Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> ETA: we’re always looking for band names.

I’m confused…why are Basque separatists looking for band names?

😉

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24395 "2018-08-23T20:00:30Z")

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The Senate Republicans are broadcasting that Trump is free to fire Sessions after the Midterms.

I have no clear hypothesis on their reasoning.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24396 "2018-08-23T20:00:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He also said if he’s impeached, the stock market will crash and everybody will be poor.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So now he’s taking hostages.

Hostages to fortune, as it were.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24397 "2018-08-23T20:03:24Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’m confused…why are Basque separatists looking for band names?
> 
> 😉

They wanted to diversify their public appeal as they sought various strategies for secession.  
You know… don’t put all your Basques in one Exit.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24398 "2018-08-23T20:15:31Z")

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_throws shark at **Bryan Ekers** _

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24399 "2018-08-23T20:19:41Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> They wanted to diversify their public appeal as they sought various strategies for secession.  
> You know… don’t put all your Basques in one Exit.

:eek: That.Was.Beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24400 "2018-08-23T20:29:03Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> The Senate Republicans are broadcasting that Trump is free to fire Sessions after the Midterms.
> 
> I have no clear hypothesis on their reasoning.

If Trump fires Sessions _before_ the midterms, it’ll look bad.

Maybe they figure he could then try to take his old seat back from Doug Jones in 2020 and that would be better than taking a bunch of insults all the time. They do seem to be offering tepid support though.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24401 "2018-08-23T21:30:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …don’t put all your Basques in one Exit.

What with the Mueller thing, the necessary forms for swearing warrants for arrest and/or summary executions are unavailable. And we cannot condone extra-legal actions. Not in advance, anyway.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24402 "2018-08-23T22:06:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump gave himself an A+ for how his Presidency is going.
> 
> He also said if he’s impeached, the stock market will crash and everybody will be poor.
> 
> He also claimed that the murderer of Mollie Tibbets was arrested by “our beautiful ICE” and not by the local police who actually did the arrest.
> 
> And he said that only 80% of the press is the enemy of the people.
> 
> [Trump's Fox News interview gets dumb and dumber](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/id-give-plus-trumps-dumb-dumber-fox-news-interview-141309945.html)

Huh. The last time we impeached a President the stock market had another 2 years left to boom.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24403 "2018-08-23T22:08:21Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> The Senate Republicans are broadcasting that Trump is free to fire Sessions after the Midterms.
> 
> I have no clear hypothesis on their reasoning.

“If the Russians do their job right and we retain control of the House, then, as the song says, ‘anything goes’!”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24404 "2018-08-23T23:06:49Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> The Senate Republicans are broadcasting that Trump is free to fire Sessions after the Midterms.  
> I have no clear hypothesis on their reasoning.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> “If the Russians do their job right and we retain control of the House, then, as the song says, ‘anything goes’!”

That, plus the Senate Republicans know that they are dealing with someone who’s mentally two years old.

You have to give the toddler something concrete: ‘_you can fire the big bad man in just ten weeks! But you have to wait until then. But then you can do it! It will be more fun that way!_’

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