# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1225
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24485 "2018-08-25T22:43:04Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > Besides, the other kid did it wrong, too. Probably a Hillary supporter. Or one of Trump’s illegitimate children, as will soon be detailed from the files of the National Enquirer. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24486 "2018-08-25T22:51:10Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > So far as I can tell, the wording of the flag code hasn’t changed. That’s Chapter 1 Section 1 of the flag code. [Here it is from the US Government Pulishing office website](https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title4/html/USCODE-2011-title4-chap1.htm). Or [Here it from house.gov](http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml;jsessionid=E24EF6B52A7DD0DB590A0A5974F2AAF6?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title4-chapter1&saved=%7CZ3JhbnVsZWlkOlVTQy1wcmVsaW0tdGl0bGU0LXNlY3Rpb244%7C%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7Cprelim&edition=prelim). Section 2 quotes what happens when there’s additional states: > > As the reporter was quoting the flag code (4 U.S.C. Chapter 1, Section 1), that quote seems proper and correct to me. Perhaps an explanatory note could have been made or the end of the quote omitted. That’s the code correctly quoted. One of the addended executive orders goes on to state: > [@](#): > > Section 1. The flag of the United States shall have thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white, and a union consisting of white stars on a field of blue. That’s the part of the code the reporter wanted. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24487 "2018-08-26T00:28:20Z")
John McCain has died. For the purposes of this thread, this means we’ll get to re-see every clip of Trump bashing McCain. Trump is in a no-win situation now; whether he says anything good, bad, or nothing at all, he looks like an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24488 "2018-08-26T00:44:45Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > John McCain has died. > > For the purposes of this thread, this means we’ll get to re-see every clip of Trump bashing McCain. Trump is in a no-win situation now; whether he says anything good, bad, or nothing at all, he looks like an asshole. I know. I think every news channel is putting the clips together as we speak. A “dummy”, “not a war hero”, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24489 "2018-08-26T00:52:30Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > John McCain has died. > > For the purposes of this thread, this means we’ll get to re-see every clip of Trump bashing McCain. Trump is in a no-win situation now; whether he says anything good, bad, or nothing at all, he looks like an asshole. Failing Donnie likes Senators who don’t die. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24490 "2018-08-26T00:55:10Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > John McCain has died. > > For the purposes of this thread, this means we’ll get to re-see every clip of Trump bashing McCain. Trump is in a no-win situation now; whether he says anything good, bad, or nothing at all, he looks like an asshole. That’s never stopped him before. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24491 "2018-08-26T00:55:55Z")
How long d’you suppose till the dipshit in the Oval calls for another vote to repeal Obamacare? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24492 "2018-08-26T01:03:19Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > How long d’you suppose till the dipshit in the Oval calls for another vote to repeal Obamacare? Wait, let’s just convince him that repealing Obamacare is exactly what Obama would do… …and he could go down in history as the President who utterly destroyed the repeal of Obamacare! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24493 "2018-08-26T01:18:14Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > John McCain has died. > > For the purposes of this thread, this means we’ll get to re-see every clip of Trump bashing McCain. Trump is in a no-win situation now; whether he says anything good, bad, or nothing at all, he looks like an asshole. I think boilerplate condolences wouldn’t play too badly. "We had our differences, but… " Last evening, Trump decided to make no mention of McCain during a GOP dinner. [Trump Skips Mention Of McCain At GOP Dinner - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-skips-mccain-mention) ETA Obama’s condolences for McCain: [https://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/1033522423658946560](https://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/1033522423658946560) [INDENT] "John McCain and i were members of different generations, came from completely different backgrounds, and competed at the highest level of politics. But we shared, for all our differences, a fidelity to something higher-the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched, and sacrificed. We saw our political battles, even, as a privilege, something noble, an opportunity to serve as stewards of those high ideals at home, and to advance them around the world. We saw this country as a place where anything is possible - and citizenship as our patriotic obligation to ensure it forever remains that way. "Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did. But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John’s best, he showed us what that means. And for that, we are all in his debt. Michelle and I send our heartfelt condolences to Cindy and their family. [/INDENT] Trump tweets: [INDENT] My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you! [/INDENT] ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24494 "2018-08-26T01:22:51Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > What, are you kidding? I’d love to discover Chump was my biological father. He may not be a billionaire, but I could still wring a fortune out of him. Oh Man, there is not enough money in the world for me. Every time I’d look at my mom, I’d just think “ick, how could you?” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24495 "2018-08-26T01:42:38Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > How long d’you suppose till the dipshit in the Oval calls for another vote to repeal Obamacare? The Affordable Care Act. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24496 "2018-08-26T01:47:41Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The Affordable Care Act. I understand the distinction you are drawing, and I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24497 "2018-08-26T01:52:42Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I understand the distinction you are drawing, and I stand corrected. Thank you, Sir. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24498 "2018-08-26T01:53:39Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Thank you, Sir. Ma’am. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24499 "2018-08-26T01:59:03Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Ma’am. 😉 My apologies, Ma’am. Second time tonight. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24500 "2018-08-26T02:08:34Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > My apologies, Ma’am. > > Second time tonight. :dubious: No reason you’d have known. No apology necessary. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24501 "2018-08-26T02:10:21Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > No reason you’d have known. No apology necessary. Southerners apologize and open doors for women. Again, my apologies. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24502 "2018-08-26T02:11:31Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > … > ETA > Obama’s condolences for McCain: [https://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/1033522423658946560](https://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/1033522423658946560) [INDENT] "John McCain and i were members of different generations, came from completely different backgrounds, and competed at the highest level of politics. But we shared, for all our differences, a fidelity to something higher-the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched, and sacrificed. We saw our political battles, even, as a privilege, something noble, an opportunity to serve as stewards of those high ideals at home, and to advance them around the world. We saw this country as a place where anything is possible - and citizenship as our patriotic obligation to ensure it forever remains that way. > > "Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did. But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John’s best, he showed us what that means. And for that, we are all in his debt. Michelle and I send our heartfelt condolences to Cindy and their family. [/INDENT] > > … oh god I miss that man ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24503 "2018-08-26T02:35:56Z")
Stinging words from a man who served in three Republican administrations about what that party has become. > [@](#): > > … > A party that once spoke with urgency and apparent conviction about the importance of ethical leadership — fidelity, honesty, honor, decency, good manners, setting a good example — has hitched its wagon to the most thoroughly and comprehensively corrupt individual who has ever been elected president. Some of the men who have been elected president have been unscrupulous in certain areas — infidelity, lying, dirty tricks, financial misdeeds — but we’ve never before had the full-spectrum corruption we see in the life of Donald Trump. > … The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump [https://nyti.ms/2objynq](https://nyti.ms/2objynq) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24504 "2018-08-26T02:42:35Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The Affordable Care Act. AKA the ACA, or as Trump refers to it: the alphabet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1224) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1226)