# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1230
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24585 "2018-08-28T00:28:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Good grief. Who do you suppose beat DJT into submission? Kelly. I think Kelly ordered the release to be written and the flags to be lowered and then informed Trump, shortly before it was released, because Kelly is an honestly scary person and Trump recognizes this in his saner moments. I’m not certain where Mattis and Bolton fit in, if they asked Kelly or he pulled them in, but I bet Sanders wrote the release, because who else who write that “ **I** [Trump] asked Vice President Mike Pence … General John Kelly, Secretary James Mattis, and Ambassador John Bolton …”, instead of the more simple, respectful, and less self-aggrandizing structure, “… Pence will offer an address …” I loathe Kelly even more that I loathed McCain … actually, I’m not sure about that … but I believe both believe(d) in a code of decency, as morally abhorrent as I would find it. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24586 "2018-08-28T01:05:24Z")
“…a horse and caisson transport for the service at the US Naval Academy…” Oh, shit. What’s the over-under on whether McCain crashes the caisson? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24587 "2018-08-28T01:26:41Z")
On CNN, ass-frother Santorum said that the Press is using McCain to beat up on Trump. Just like a slug, he leaves a slimy trail wherever he goes. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24588 "2018-08-28T01:35:39Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “…a horse and caisson transport for the service at the US Naval Academy…” > > Oh, shit. What’s the over-under on whether McCain crashes the caisson? I rise to scold, sir, firm in my certainty that no one can _prove_ I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24589 "2018-08-28T01:46:51Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > Does anyone know how much of the part I bolded needs a request from POTUS to happen? I’ve been to funerals that have included a military presence (I think it was an honor guard in both instances I remember), and I thought all that was needed was for the family to make a request. I know that if the funeral home is made aware that the deceased had military experience, even if it was decades ago, the federal government provides a flag, usually (but not always) used as a cover for the coffin during services. I don’t believe Donald Trump knows what a caisson is. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24590 "2018-08-28T02:24:35Z")
> [@j666](#): > > Kelly. > > I think Kelly ordered the release to be written and the flags to be lowered and then informed Trump, shortly before it was released, because Kelly is an honestly scary person and Trump recognizes this in his saner moments. > > I’m not certain where Mattis and Bolton fit in, if they asked Kelly or he pulled them in, but I bet Sanders wrote the release, because who else who write that “ **I** [Trump] asked Vice President Mike Pence … General John Kelly, Secretary James Mattis, and Ambassador John Bolton …”, instead of the more simple, respectful, and less self-aggrandizing structure, “… Pence will offer an address …” > > I loathe Kelly even more that I loathed McCain … actually, I’m not sure about that … but I believe both believe(d) in a code of decency, as morally abhorrent as I would find it. I think someone had to tell him that white constipated old VFW types might actually wake up and see what a dickhead Trump is. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24591 "2018-08-28T02:48:16Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I don’t believe Donald Trump knows what a caisson is. So you are suggesting Trump doesn’t know the difference between a caisson and a Kardashian? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24592 "2018-08-28T03:23:05Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think someone had to tell him that white constipated old VFW types might actually wake up and see what a dickhead Trump is. Trump would not care. He would dismiss them as losers. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24593 "2018-08-28T04:05:01Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > So you are suggesting Trump doesn’t know the difference between a caisson and a Kardashian? 😃 I bet I know which one he’d rather ride. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24594 "2018-08-28T04:19:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > On CNN, ass-frother Santorum said that the Press is using McCain to beat up on Trump. > Just like a slug, he leaves a slimy trail wherever he goes. I think he’s right. (And not just the press…all the Democrats rising to praise McCain). And I’m enjoying the hell out of it. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24595 "2018-08-28T06:10:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Despite our differences on policy and politics,\*\* I respect Senator John McCain’s service \*\*to our country and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment. > > **I have asked** Vice President Mike Pence to offer an address at the ceremony honoring Senator McCain at the United States Capitol this Friday. > > At the request of the McCain family,\*\* I have also authorized \*\*military transportation of Senator McCain’s remains from Arizona to Washington, D.C., military pallbearers and band support, and a horse and caisson transport during the service at the United States Naval Academy. > > Finally,\*\* I have asked \*\*General John Kelly, Secretary James Mattis, and Ambassador John Bolton to represent my Administration at his services. Notice the bolded parts I bolded - yeah, it’s all about you Donald :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24596 "2018-08-28T06:46:21Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > In other news, Trump met with a leading QAnon promoter and Infowars regular on Thursday. They didn’t discuss Q’s claims, which is just as well as Trump isn’t going to want to admit that he and Mueller are secret friends jointly investigating a global pedo conspiracy. [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/403549-trump-meets-with-promoter-of-qanon-conspiracy-theory-in-oval?rnd=1535151221](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/403549-trump-meets-with-promoter-of-qanon-conspiracy-theory-in-oval?rnd=1535151221) The Daily Beast source article that that story links to is classically wry, \*All four White House officials the Beast did speak with about how Trump, the leader of the free world, ended up in a smiling photo op at the Resolute Desk with a prominent QAnon conspiracy theorist, pleaded ignorance about when this occurred, and why. [COLOR=“Black”]Two of these West Wing officials audibly could not contain their laughter. “This president is a president for all Americans,” one joked, including conspiracy theorists.\*[/COLOR] ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24597 "2018-08-28T10:18:34Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Notice the bolded parts I bolded - yeah, it’s all about you Donald :rolleyes: And “ **my** administration”. Who says that? Nasty little jab there, too, about respecting his service, not the man himself. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24598 "2018-08-28T11:25:37Z")
> [@j666](#): > > And “ **my** administration”. Who says that? > … A fragile, insecure, spoiled, pampered narcissist. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24599 "2018-08-28T11:49:20Z")
I think Donald still hasn’t gotten over McCain’s vote not to destroy the ACA. Good Republicans lick Donald’s shoes and McCain wouldn’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24600 "2018-08-28T12:49:57Z")
Early this morning, Trump apparently figured out how to Google himself. [He didn’t like what he found, and might have to “do something”.](http://theweek.com/speedreads/792735/trump-ragegoogling-himself-doesnt-like-what-hes-found) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24601 "2018-08-28T13:39:46Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Early this morning, Trump apparently figured out how to Google himself. [He didn’t like what he found, and might have to “do something”.](http://theweek.com/speedreads/792735/trump-ragegoogling-himself-doesnt-like-what-hes-found) His staff is right now on the phone with Google, asking them to come up with a special Dear Leader Google that only returns good news. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24602 "2018-08-28T13:40:23Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Early this morning, Trump apparently figured out how to Google himself. [He didn’t like what he found, and might have to “do something”.](http://theweek.com/speedreads/792735/trump-ragegoogling-himself-doesnt-like-what-hes-found) Quit? Anyway, in a quest for fact, and having a bit of time to waste, I did my own Google search for “Trump News”, and got this as the first page of results: > [@](#): > > Cohen lawyer admits he was anonymous CNN source for … - Fox News > [www.foxnews.com/.../cohen-lawyer-admits-was-anonymous-cnn-source-for-bombshell-](http://www.foxnews.com/.../cohen-lawyer-admits-was-anonymous-cnn-source-for-bombshell-)… > 11 hours ago - Lanny Davis corrects Cohen-Trump Tower story. Media ran wild with Michael Cohen’s reported claims about Trump Tower meeting; ‘MediaBuzz’ host Howard Kurtz weighs in. … The CNN story, which cited multiple “sources,” claimed Cohen said President Trump knew in advance about the … > > Tiger Woods’ ‘respect the office’ statement about Trump … - Fox News > [www.foxnews.com/.../espns-max-kellerman-blasts-tiger-woods-for-answer-to-question-o](http://www.foxnews.com/.../espns-max-kellerman-blasts-tiger-woods-for-answer-to-question-o)… > 47 mins ago - ESPN host slams Tiger Woods’ ‘respect’ the presidency remark. Max Kellerman takes issue with golfing great Tiger Woods’ comment that all Americans should respect the office of the president. ESPN’s Max Kellerman said Monday on “First Take” that Tiger Woods’ response to … > > Trump says Google ‘rigged’ searches against him - ABC News > [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-attacks-google-claims-prioritizes...news.../story?](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-attacks-google-claims-prioritizes...news.../story?)… > 11 mins ago - President Donald Trump attacked Google in Tuesday morning tweets that accused the company of prioritizing “fake news” in its search results. > > Trump claims Google is suppressing positive news about him and 'will … > [https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/28/.../president-trump-google-left-wing-bias-claims](https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/28/.../president-trump-google-left-wing-bias-claims) > 3 hours ago - President Donald Trump tweeted this morning that Google search results for “Trump News” have been “rigged” to show critical coverage of him. > > Trump accuses Google of rigging search results in favor of 'bad … > [https://www.cnbc.com/.../trump-accuses-google-of-rigging-search-results-in-favor-of-](https://www.cnbc.com/.../trump-accuses-google-of-rigging-search-results-in-favor-of-)… > 2 hours ago - Trump says in a tweet that Google’s search engine had “rigged” news story search results to show mostly “bad” stories about him and other … > > Trump wakes up complaining about negative Google search results … > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/.../trump-wakes-up-googles-himself-and-doesnt-l](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/.../trump-wakes-up-googles-himself-and-doesnt-l)… > 2 hours ago - President Trump arose before dawn Tuesday complaining about Google search results for “Trump News.” In a pair of tweets posted before 6 … > > What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987? - NYMag > [What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html) > A political world already numbed by Trump’s astonishing rise barely took notice. News reports quoted experts who suggested the Russians … > > Donald Trump Is the First White President - The Atlantic > [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white...ta.../537909/](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white...ta.../537909/) > The foundation of Donald Trump’s presidency is the negation of Barack Obama’s … condescension toward and economic anxiety of black people is not news. > > Inside the Trump Marriage: Melania’s Burden | Vanity Fair > [Inside the Trump Marriage: Melania’s Burden | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/donald-melania-trump-marriage) > Until November 8, Melania Trump’s marriage provided her with a golden Fifth … the entertainment and news businesses—many of whom Donald now despises. So: a) all the entries seem factual, so suck it up, Mr. Trump; b) the first two entries are from Fox News. which hardly seems to be one of the sources he would be complaining about; c) after that, most of the entries are about his own complaining about his press coverage, which makes it all a bit meta; d) I have no idea why two seemingly random entries from 2017 would make the first page, what with the rich panoply of Trump-related news items to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24603 "2018-08-28T13:46:35Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Quit? > > Anyway, in a quest for fact, and having a bit of time to waste, I did my own Google search for “Trump News”, and got this as the first page of results: > > So: a) **all the entries seem factual** , so suck it up, Mr. Trump; b) the first two entries are from Fox News. which hardly seems to be one of the sources he would be complaining about; c) after that, most of the entries are about his own complaining about his press coverage, which makes it all a bit meta; d) I have no idea why two seemingly random entries from 2017 would make the first page, what with the rich panoply of Trump-related news items to choose from. That’s what he objects to. Factual, not fawning. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24604 "2018-08-28T13:55:37Z")
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