# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24625 "2018-08-28T23:18:37Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What’s with this “new trade deal with Mexico to replace NAFTA”? Isn’t NAFTA law? Not that Trump gives a hoot about the law.

It wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out to be another one of Trump’s “deals” - kinda like his North Korean “deal”. In other words, he’s full of shit.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24626 "2018-08-28T23:27:28Z")

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Wow, so the Mexicans agreed to fund the Wall? Shit, maybe he _is_ the genius negotiator!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24627 "2018-08-29T00:14:27Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> …However, I think that many on the extreme right that follows Trump do not give much of a hoot about people with disabilities. It could explain some of the discrepancy.

They will begin putting them in camps to lower the cost of health care.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24628 "2018-08-29T01:05:43Z")

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I will say this: there is one good conservative out there, and his name is Evan McMullin. Smart. Intellectual. Patriotic. And yes, conservative. Probably would disagree with him on a number of things, but this guy refuses to sell his soul to the devil. I highly recommend his twitter feed:

[https://twitter.com/Evan\_McMullin?ref\_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author](https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24629 "2018-08-29T01:12:26Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What’s with this “new trade deal with Mexico to replace NAFTA”? Isn’t NAFTA law? Not that Trump gives a hoot about the law.

I saw a Canadian political commentator earlier tonight who speculated that Trump would change NAFTA’s name and call it a victory and his supporters would buy that.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24630 "2018-08-29T01:35:00Z")

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It’s a pity that the Johnson Amendment doesn’t actually get enforced, since Trump is telling evangelical preachers to campaign for Republicans from the pulpit.

> **[In closed-door meeting, Trump warned Christian leaders of violence if GOP loses](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/trump-told-christian-leaders-he-got-rid-law-he-didn-n904471)**
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> According to recorded excerpts of private remarks, he said evangelicals were "one election away from losing everything."

And uh…

“I had the great Robert Jeffress back there. Hello, Robert. Who said about me: He may not be the perfect human being, but he is **the greatest leader for Christianity** ,” Trump said to applause and laughter.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24631 "2018-08-29T01:52:32Z")

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It’s funny that christians are swallowing this guy’s shit. It’s even funnier that the metaphor isn’t exactly non-literal. Good to see that christians hold their so called beliefs as seriously as Republicans hold their own so called beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24632 "2018-08-29T03:25:02Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> It’s funny that christians are swallowing this guy’s shit. It’s even funnier that the metaphor isn’t exactly non-literal. Good to see that christians hold their so called beliefs as seriously as Republicans hold their own so called beliefs.

Not all Christians. Just the ones that make headlines because they’re as power-hungry and corrupt as the Yam-in-Chief.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24633 "2018-08-29T03:49:25Z")

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Trump warns of violence if Republicans lose the midterm elections.

> **[Trump warns of violence if GOP loses midterms | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/28/donald-trump-warns-of-violence-midterms-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn)**
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> President Donald Trump warned there will be "violence" if the Republicans lose their majority in Congress as a result of the 2018 midterms, in a recording now heard by CNN.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24634 "2018-08-29T04:07:11Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump warns of violence if Republicans lose the midterm elections.  
> [https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/28/donald-trump-warns-of-violence-midterms-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/28/donald-trump-warns-of-violence-midterms-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn)

Do you think we could get him to be more specific? We know they won’t pull down statues, block traffic on bridges, or kneel during the national anthem, because those things are all bad.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24635 "2018-08-29T04:17:21Z")

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Not nearly as coherent as that. It is the CFSG’s style of speaking: the theme is the leitmotif.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24636 "2018-08-29T04:42:52Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Do you think we could get him to be more specific? We know they won’t pull down statues, block traffic on bridges, or kneel during the national anthem, because those things are all bad.

The linked video references a recent Trump speech to evangelicals in which he claims that any Democratic victories in the mid-terms will be on the back of violence by Antifa.

So you know, it certainly won’t be any Republicans that start it, nudge nudge wink wink.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24637 "2018-08-29T04:48:40Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> The linked video references a recent Trump speech to evangelicals in which he claims that any Democratic victories in the mid-terms will be on the back of violence by Antifa.

Hmm, violence when they win, violence when they lose. Violence in bad times and violence in good times. It’s like the Democrat equivalent of tax cuts for the rich.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24638 "2018-08-29T05:51:10Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Christ on a crutch. Google has the lawyers and the will to defend itself against this kind of nonsense, but I never thought I’d live in a country where they would have to. I thought this story was satire until I went and read Trump’s twitter feed.
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> This has been your daily reminder to vote.

What I’d do to see Alphabet buy Trump Tower in NYC, yank of the T, and replace it with a countdown clock until they demolish it. Time it to coincide with the next President’s inauguration.  
Maybe it’s a good thing I’m not THAT rich…

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24639 "2018-08-29T06:43:02Z")

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I just posted the following in GD.

> [@What are the arguments against Medicare for all?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-arguments-against-medicare-for-all/816997/387):
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> I am also pessimistic. The sheer cost of right-wing malice is staggering. Recall that Clinton and the Democrats solved the deficit problem in the 1990’s and the GOP deliberately threw that away at a cost of trillions. The misadventure in Iraq was a deliberate boondoggle, again with multi-trillion cost. GOP opposition to UHC costs at least half a million human lives per decade. Environmental regulations removed just in the last year will cost tens of thousands more lives. (I hope I don’t receive a warning for political jabs in GD — the above are facts, not opinions.)
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> The one optimistic straw I grasp at is the sheer horror, incompetence, and blatant corruption of the Trump Administration. Just as the drug-crazed rapist in **Clockwork Orange** was cured with aversion therapy, so maybe Americans will wake up in the aftermath of Trump and finally understand that Stupidism is not a sound political philosophy. (Alex the Droog does relapse in **Clockwork Orange** ; let this be a warning to America: Move quickly when sanity is restored.)

What’s the betting line on whether it gets me banned? 'Luci? Will you please pronounce a Rite of Extreme Unction for me?

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24640 "2018-08-29T07:10:17Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I just posted the following in GD.
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> What’s the betting line on whether it gets me banned? 'Luci? Will you please pronounce a Rite of Extreme Unction for me?

Now THAT’S funny. 'Luci as Redeemer? 😃

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24641 "2018-08-29T07:56:55Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> It’s a pity that the Johnson Amendment doesn’t actually get enforced, since Trump is telling evangelical preachers to campaign for Republicans from the pulpit.
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> [In closed-door meeting, Trump told Christian leaders he got rid of a law. He didn't.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/trump-told-christian-leaders-he-got-rid-law-he-didn-n904471)

That’s gotta be illegal, right?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24642 "2018-08-29T09:10:45Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I just posted the following in GD.
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> What’s the betting line on whether it gets me banned? 'Luci? Will you please pronounce a Rite of Extreme Unction for me?

I think it’s GQ that frowns on political jabs; they’re fine in GD.

Also, **luci** doesn’t administer sacraments; he swears out death warrants.

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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24643 "2018-08-29T09:34:13Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> The linked video references a recent Trump speech to evangelicals in which he claims that any Democratic victories in the mid-terms will be on the back of violence by Antifa.
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> So you know, it certainly won’t be any Republicans that start it, nudge nudge wink wink.

“This night for the first time Antifa regular soldiers fired on our territory. Since 5.45 A.M. we have been returning the fire, and from now on bombs will be met by bombs. Whoever fight with poison gas will be fought with poison gas. Whoever departs from the rules of humane warfare can only expect that we shall do the same. I will continue this struggle, no matter against whom, until the safety of the GOP and its rights are secured.”

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24644 "2018-08-29T10:10:12Z")

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… “Antifa regular soldiers” has now joined my list of “words I never thought I’d see together”.

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