# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24705 "2018-08-30T03:41:33Z")

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**Chip Dundas & FavreCo:**. You two guys are the same guy, right?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24706 "2018-08-30T03:49:04Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> Trump is kicking ass and my fucking bank account is massive.

Compared to Trump’s small hands.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24707 "2018-08-30T03:52:56Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> To be fair, it seems pretty clear to me: a fascist, authoritarian United States, ruled by an openly racist, oligarchic, and fundamentalist Republican Party with an iron grip on power, and anyone who refuses to see this as an inevitability is at best a naive child.
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> Oh, but still vote, ‘cause that’ll make a difference.

Except **asahi** doesn’t think voting will help. He’s convinced that Trump has already destroyed democracy in America, and that a very vocal minority has taken control of the entire political system, turned it on its head and transformed the U.S. into some cartoonish banana republic.

The truth is this _can_ be fixed. The tide can still be turned. The first step is to take back the house. That alone will do wonders to shove a stick into Trump’s bicycle spokes. But **asahi** would rather lie in the gutter with his brown paper bagged-bottle and shout to the world how we are all doomed.

He really needs to lay off the sauce, get off his ass and actually do something besides whining.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24708 "2018-08-30T04:21:55Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Except **asahi** doesn’t think voting will help.

Actually, that’s the funniest (?) part of all this: he HAS said the opposite (don’t feel like searching right now, but I remember it well). Maybe it depends on his mood, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24709 "2018-08-30T05:15:35Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> It’s bad enough having to moderate GQ threads whenever the question has anything remotely to do with Trump…

I used to mod a game; we referred to those as “the times when you wish fireball was real”.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24710 "2018-08-30T05:27:24Z")

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Original by Burning (No es extraño que tú estés loca por mí), translation mine.

_Dedicated to people who think all that’s important about [del]people[/del]men is the size of their wallet._

You know if you leave me  
I’ll be so sad.  
You know if you leave me  
maybe I’ll get lost.  
When with any other guy  
you make fun of me  
you’ll find me at home sitting down  
on the floor talking to the walls.

So,  
it’s not weird that you’re crazy about me…

I went to Hollywood, visit’d New York  
and I met you in Berlin.  
The Cartier I placed on your wrist  
is what got you convinced.  
A few kisses, a few promises  
made you my slave.  
When the morning arrived  
you saw that I wasn’t there.

So,  
it’s not weird you’re crazy about me…

On your knees in front of me  
is how you prefer it,  
on your knees from behind  
is how you like it best.

So,  
no,  
it’s not weird you’re crazy about me…

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**Author:** ![Chip\_Dundas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@Chip\_Dundas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chip_Dundas)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24711 "2018-08-30T07:28:15Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I am amused that the moral center of conservatives has dropped so low that they think “it wasn’t technically treason” actually works as a defense. Maybe it wasn’t, but what happened is the the President of the United States endorsed an “incredible deal” that involved handing over two American citizens that have worked with the US government to expose corruption in Russia to Russian intelligence agencies. And to hand over information that our intelligence agencies collected on Russia to Russian intelligence.  
> But it wasn’t technically treason, and probably not a crime, so #MAGA!!
> 
> Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are corrupt and murderous dictators without a shred of decency or any regard for human life. Yet about 40% of the country probably thinks they are “better” people than Hillary Clinton. Jim Comey and John Podesta. Even though none of them really know who John Podesta is. But they used e-mail or something.
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> Trump is a poor persons idea of a rich man, a stupid man’s idea of a smart man and a weak man’s idea of a strong man.
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> And since this is the Pit, go fuck yourself, Chimp Dumbass. Fuck you and the idiot President you rode in on.

The ignorance/anger of this post is exactly what will get Trump elected again. You are your own worst enemy. Unhinged and irrational.

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**Author:** ![Chip\_Dundas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@Chip\_Dundas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chip_Dundas)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24712 "2018-08-30T07:30:10Z")

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Once again missing the point.

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**Author:** ![Chip\_Dundas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@Chip\_Dundas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chip_Dundas)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24713 "2018-08-30T07:33:35Z")

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LOL. Just feed your cats and shut up.

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**Author:** ![Chip\_Dundas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@Chip\_Dundas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chip_Dundas)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24714 "2018-08-30T07:37:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Compared to Trump’s small hands.

Dear god. Is this the best the SD has to offer. I’ll admit to being a troll if I can at least get some decent replies to send back to fantasy football league.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24715 "2018-08-30T08:01:39Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> Dear god. Is this the best the SD has to offer. I’ll admit to being a troll if I can at least get some decent replies to send back to fantasy football league.

Okay. Trumpy Wumpy was a fool for the USFL league. Failed there too. Your fantasy football league consists of the Howling Yam trashing Brady, Belicheck and anyone who decides to kneel during the anthem, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24716 "2018-08-30T08:03:33Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> The ignorance/anger of this post is exactly what will get Trump elected again. You are your own worst enemy. Unhinged and irrational.

Please send this exact response to Douche L’Orange. On anything he says. Especially the unhinged and irrational part.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24717 "2018-08-30T09:10:16Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Do you feel more confident about the future of this country now than you did 9 months ago?
> 
> Do you not understand what’s happening?

Hey, I’m not a great deal more sanguine over this than you are. But I didn’t see **John DiFool** post anything to the thread recently, and I wondered what inspired yo to dredge up THAT post NOW…

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24718 "2018-08-30T11:08:15Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I am amused that the moral center of conservatives has dropped so low that they think “it wasn’t technically treason” actually works as a defense …

Words have meanings, though, and just like not every lie is perjury (you remember that, don’t you?), not every act of spineless betrayal is treason.

That being said, cryptic “that’s how much **you** know” posts don’t really advance the conversation, so I probably should have asked him to clarify his own post.

Can we really just tell people to shut up? That could be fun.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24719 "2018-08-30T11:33:11Z")

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Well, we can TELL them to STFU, but we can’t really make ‘em.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24720 "2018-08-30T12:00:18Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> Trump is kicking ass and my fucking bank account is massive.

Prove it. Let’s see a bank statement.

Maybe you and Chippy can meet up in mommy’s basement and cook one up. But try not to steal from mommy’s purse again, boys. I know Cheetos and Mountain Dew ain’t free, but have a little self-respect. #MAGATS

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24721 "2018-08-30T12:06:56Z")

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This is why Trump was elected.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24722 "2018-08-30T12:14:21Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> The ignorance/anger of this post is exactly what will get Trump elected again. You are your own worst enemy. Unhinged and irrational.

Yes,”Hillary Clinton has better moral character than Kim Jong Un” is a totally irrational and unhinged position.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24723 "2018-08-30T12:37:45Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> I’ll admit to being a troll if I can at least get some decent replies to send back to fantasy football league.

Don’t expect a lot of shocked faces at your coming-out speech.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24724 "2018-08-30T13:18:36Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Prove it. Let’s see a bank statement.
> 
> Maybe you and Chippy can meet up in mommy’s basement and cook one up. But try not to steal from mommy’s purse again, boys. I know Cheetos and Mountain Dew ain’t free, but have a little self-respect. #MAGATS

Indeed. So **FavreCo** claims to have a massive “bank account”. What are interest-bearing savings accounts paying at these days? Less than 2%? How did he get rich in a year and a bit on 1.9% returns?

OK, so maybe by “bank account” he actually means investment in some kind of equity-based mutual fund. According to sources I’ve read, the one-year return on a S & P 500-based index fund is just over 20%, vs. a ten-year annualized return of a bit over 10%. Not bad indeed, but 20% all by itself doesn’t get one from non-massive to massive. Which investor ends up with the greater amount: the one who gets 10% returns per year over ten years, or the one who gets 20% after one year?

He is, of course, full of shit no matter how you slice it.

Yeah, I know, waste of time, feeding the troll, yadda yadda. That’s fine, I’m done here.

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