# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1242
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24825 "2018-09-02T15:40:52Z")
I just watched an incredible short film called [“Don’t Be a Sucker”](https://slate.com/culture/2018/09/if-youve-been-enjoying-all-the-donald-trump-subtweets-at-john-mccains-funeral-youll-love-this-anti-trump-film-the-u-s-government-produced-in-1943.html). It was made in 1943, but it is clearly anti-Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Chip\_Dundas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@Chip\_Dundas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chip_Dundas)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24826 "2018-09-02T15:50:20Z")
This Russian Oligarch who was a client of Christopher Steele probably fed all the horseshit found in the Dossier which was done on behalf of Steeles other client, the Hillary campaign. It was probably done to get a Visa into the United states. But yeah, the FBI was simply trying to flip him. Give me a fucking break. What is worse is nobody cares. Nobody gives a fuck people are going to jail because of a classic fruit of the poisonous tree episode. Where are the civil libertarians? Do they exists? ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24827 "2018-09-02T16:00:22Z")
Aw geez. I know I know, but I think it bears repeating as often as possible that > [@](#): > > [**In October 2015, private investigative firm Fusion GPS was contracted by conservative political website The Washington Free Beacon to provide political opposition research against Trump.** In April 2016, attorney Marc Elias separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump on behalf of Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the DNC. The Free Beacon stopped their backing when Trump became the presumptive Republican Party presidential nominee.[2] In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele’s firm to compile the dossier. His instructions were to seek answers to why Trump would “repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state”.[8] Clinton campaign officials were reportedly unaware that Fusion GPS had subcontracted Steele, and he was not told the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier) (Bolding and underlining mine) ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24828 "2018-09-02T16:06:05Z")
Chip, do you have references for the claims and assumptions in your post from reputable sources? Because they don’t agree with what I have read. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24829 "2018-09-02T16:14:12Z")
If Trump wanted to be a bitch about McCain’s funeral, the best way would have been to do something quiet and modestly decent - attend the Library of Congress National Book Festival or build a house with Jimmy Carter. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24830 "2018-09-02T16:15:42Z")
But he can’t read, and doesn’t know how to use tools! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24831 "2018-09-02T16:25:17Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > This Russian Oligarch who was a client of Christopher Steele probably fed all the horseshit found in the Dossier which was done on behalf of Steeles other client, the Hillary campaign. It was probably done to get a Visa into the United states. But yeah, the FBI was simply trying to flip him. Give me a fucking break. > What is worse is nobody cares. Nobody gives a fuck people are going to jail because of a classic fruit of the poisonous tree episode. Where are the civil libertarians? Do they exists? Nobody’s going to jail because of the Steele dossier ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24832 "2018-09-02T16:43:01Z")
I admit, it makes for a nice change-of-pace to see a Trump supporter referencing civil libertarians in a way other than describing them as traitors and saying they should be shot. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24833 "2018-09-02T16:49:21Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > But he can’t read, and doesn’t know how to use tools! He knows how to use one tool, but he does it so badly he has to pay people not to discuss the tool and his use of it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24834 "2018-09-02T16:56:59Z")
> [@fschwartz](#): > > the reason for the shortage and not giving 2% raises to federal employees (yes, they are cheaper than contractors) is the $570 BILLION defense budget. But don’t blame Trump for all of it. None of the senators or congressmen will give up a military contract in their district. With all the zillion sub-contractors supplying parts to the major contractors, you know who they are, the defense budget and space program is what makes our economy great. Not that I am defending it but I can’t think of an equivalent replacement to keep our economy going. No. It was the 2,3 trillion dollar tax cut trump gave to himself, the corporations and rich guys. [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/tax-cuts-trump-gop-analysis-430781](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/tax-cuts-trump-gop-analysis-430781) Between new cost estimates and the White House’s own budget numbers, the wheels are coming off Republican claims that President Donald Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves by generating increased growth and government revenues over the next decade. “Not only will this tax plan pay for itself but it will pay down debt,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin famously boasted in September. But his own department’s analysts now peg the 10-year cost at $2.3 trillion given the administration’s assumption that tax breaks for individuals and large estates will be extended past 2025. Or is that 10 trillion overall? > **[America’s getting $10 trillion in tax cuts, and 20% of them go the richest 1%](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/11/17560704/tax-cuts-rich-san-francisco-fed)** > > And according to the San Francisco Fed, the latest tax cuts probably won’t grow the economy much, if at all. Tax cuts have clipped trillions of dollars off federal government revenues in recent years, largely to the benefit of the richest Americans. Two-thirds of the cuts have gone to the top 20 percent of earners. And while the latest round of tax cuts is supposed to boost the economy, that’s not guaranteed to happen. Those are the conclusions of two new reports out this week. The first analysis, from the Institute on Taxation and Economic and Policy, a liberal-leaning think tank, found that from 2001 through 2018, changes to the federal tax code have reduced revenue by $5.1 trillion. Sixty-five percent of the savings have gone to the richest fifth of Americans, with 22 percent of them going exclusively to the top 1 percent. According to the institute’s estimates, by 2025 the tax cuts will grow to $10.6 trillion. Of that amount, almost $2 trillion will be received by the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans. It was sold (again) as some sort of half assed “trickle down” bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24835 "2018-09-02T17:01:51Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > … Nobody gives a fuck people are going to jail because of … Pleading guilty or being found guilty of committing crimes. Boo fuckin hoo. Dumbass. And not only do I not give a fuck, but every time a Trump criminal gets locked up it makes me happy. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24836 "2018-09-02T17:03:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I just had a great idea. When Der Trumpster finally goes to [del]his eternal reward[/del] eternal damnation, there should be a huge, nationwide movement to go play golf during his funeral. All kinds of golf, including miniature golf, and ultimate frisbee. Picture it, while thump is being lowered into the ground in his solid gold coffin, thousands of people are out on the links, lightheartedly strolling the fairways, putting their hearts out, tossing flying discs, whacking the little door in the front of the tiny windmill, all whistling a merry tune. I like that picture. I would love to be in the background while he’s being lowered into the ground. I could be in all the pictures and videos of the happy event, shooting silly string, dancing, throwing confetti, etc. It would be great to have a whole crowd just having fun, basically dancing on Dumpster’s grave. > **[Trump administration withholds 100,000 pages of Kavanaugh records](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-trump-administration-withholds-100000-pages-of-records/)** > > Hearings for the Supreme Court nominee begin next week > [@](#): > > The Trump administration is withholding more than 100,000 pages of Brett Kavanaugh’s records from the Bush White House on the basis of presidential privilege ahead of the Supreme Court nominee’s confirmation hearing. What is that dipshit hiding about his own nominee? Not that we really need the 100,000 pages to know the kind of stuff Kavanaugh is probably going to do once he gets the chance. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24837 "2018-09-02T17:03:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Except that presidentin’ is the man’s _job_. He goes to work 5 days a week, just like everyone else, and gets Saturday and Sunday off. This is his weekend, for his own enjoyment. None of that work stuff today. It’s hard work, watching Fox News all day and rage tweeting all night… except of course for all those vacations to his golf course :rolleyes: > **[How many times did President Donald Trump played golf while in office?](https://thegolfnewsnet.com/ryan_ballengee/2025/04/05/how-many-times-president-donald-trump-played-golf-in-office-103836/)** > > We're keeping track of how many times President Donald Trump played golf in office in his first and second terms, and compare how frequently How many times has Trump played golf as President of the United States? Since taking office on Jan. 20, 2017, Mr. Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere **153 times** since becoming President, and that’s as of Sept. 1, 2018. The cost of Trump’s golf rounds to the American taxpayer varies by round and course, but it has totaled so far in the **tens of millions of dollars**. … Trump has spent nearly **25 percent of his days in office** at one of his golf properties for some portion of the day. He doesn’t do work, he never has. He always “had people for that”. He was always a lazy useless stupid puke. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24838 "2018-09-02T17:05:59Z")
> [@j666](#): > > If Trump wanted to be a bitch about McCain’s funeral, the best way would have been to do something quiet and modestly decent - attend the Library of Congress National Book Festival or build a house with Jimmy Carter. He hires other people to build shit — and then doesn’t pay them. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24839 "2018-09-02T17:07:00Z")
> [@j666](#): > > Chip, do you have references for the claims and assumptions in your post from reputable sources? Because they don’t agree with what I have read. He’s just another fucking trollbot asshole. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24840 "2018-09-02T17:09:02Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Pleading guilty or being found guilty of committing crimes. Boo fuckin hoo. Dumbass. > And not only do I not give a fuck, but every time a Trump criminal gets locked up it makes me happy. This. And they aren’t done yet. Not Meuller, not the NY AG, not the Virigina AG… This story isn’t over yet. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24841 "2018-09-02T17:16:17Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I would love to be in the background while he’s being lowered into the ground. I could be in all the pictures and videos of the happy event, shooting silly string, dancing, throwing confetti, etc. It would be great to have a whole crowd just having fun, basically dancing on Dumpster’s grave. WBC demonstrated that funerals are not sacred, not a place to be free from public criticism. Rather than sending odious and hateful messages to the mourners about their loved ones how,ever, just having a grand 'ol party should send the right message without the hate. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24842 "2018-09-02T17:42:27Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > WBC demonstrated that funerals are not sacred, not a place to be free from public criticism. > > Rather than sending odious and hateful messages to the mourners about their loved ones how,ever, just having a grand 'ol party should send the right message without the hate. I don’t feel that this would be in the same category as what WBC does. tRump gets to say what he thinks about everything, even though he has no idea what’s really going on and doesn’t give ONE FUCKSHIT about anyone. His voters got their say. But I never got my say! This would be a way to get my say, if I could make it happen. I live in a state that voted for tRump so my vote didn’t count, basically. My representatives can’t/won’t do anything to rein him in. So I pretty much have nothing. Plus I would never get the chance to make this happen, even if I really were going to try. :rolleyes: Pardon me for wanting to be fucking HEARD. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24843 "2018-09-02T17:49:37Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Pleading guilty or being found guilty of committing crimes. Boo fuckin hoo. Dumbass. > And not only do I not give a fuck, but every time a Trump criminal gets locked up it makes me happy. In fact, every time a Trump criminal gets locked up, an angel gets his wings. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/24844 "2018-09-02T17:54:44Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > This Russian Oligarch who was a client of Christopher Steele probably fed all the horseshit found in the Dossier which was done on behalf of Steeles other client, the Hillary campaign. It was probably done to get a Visa into the United states. But yeah, the FBI was simply trying to flip him. Give me a fucking break. > What is worse is nobody cares. Nobody gives a fuck people are going to jail because of a classic fruit of the poisonous tree episode. Where are the civil libertarians? Do they exists? People are going to jail because they committed crimes that they erroneously thought they’d get away with. Do try to keep up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1241) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1243)