# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1261
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25205 "2018-09-09T06:37:55Z")
The teenager who made faces behind Trump’s back at the Montana rally was questioned by the Secret Service for ten minutes after he was pulled off stage. Questioning the President of the United States (allegedly) is a crime now? > **[\#plaidshirtguy at Trump rally is ... a Billings high schooler](https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/plaidshirtguy-at-trump-rally-is-a-billings-high-schooler/article_bb742b54-9f0e-5e77-86f1-c5a36d7cd3bd.html)** > > Billings West High School senior Tyler Linfesty learned Thursday morning during first period that he had been selected for VIP treatment at President Donald J. Trump's rally at MetraPark. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25206 "2018-09-09T06:51:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The teenager who made faces behind Trump’s back at the Montana rally was questioned by the Secret Service for ten minutes after he was pulled off stage. Questioning the President of the United States (allegedly) is a crime now? > [#plaidshirtguy at Trump rally is ... a Billings high schooler](https://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/plaidshirtguy-at-trump-rally-is-a-billings-high-schooler/article_bb742b54-9f0e-5e77-86f1-c5a36d7cd3bd.html?=sdfd#1) For some reason, the text in that article is ‘greyed out’ for me, all I got was the pic of the teenager looking ‘bemused’ (for want of a better word). Hey, what happened to the girl who wiped her snotty nose on the flag…has there been any follow-up to that? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25207 "2018-09-09T07:10:20Z")
You need to answer the dumb survey question first (does anyone answer those things honestly? I just click a random button…). Then you get to see the article. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25208 "2018-09-09T08:12:29Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > You need to answer the dumb survey question first (does anyone answer those things honestly? I just click a random button…). Then you get to see the article. Ahhh, thanks, I’ll try that then. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25209 "2018-09-09T12:41:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The teenager who made faces behind Trump’s back at the Montana rally was questioned by the Secret Service for ten minutes after he was pulled off stage. Questioning the President of the United States (allegedly) is a crime now? > [#plaidshirtguy at Trump rally is ... a Billings high schooler](https://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/plaidshirtguy-at-trump-rally-is-a-billings-high-schooler/article_bb742b54-9f0e-5e77-86f1-c5a36d7cd3bd.html?=sdfd#1) > [@Billings Gazette](#): > > “They told us while we were sitting there, ‘You guys have to keep clapping, you have to smile, you have to look enthusiastic,’” Linfesty said. “I had to be honest in my views.” Right. Remember, all you Trump-rally fools, you are nothing more than stage props in a PR exercise and don’t you forget it. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25210 "2018-09-09T15:03:21Z")
Trump’s DC liquor license is facing bad character challenges. > **[More 'Bad Character' Examples Added To Trump's DC Liquor License Challenge](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-bad-character-examples-dc-liquor-license-challenge_n_5b9321ade4b0511db3e25841?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003)** > > The president needs to be "of good character" if he wants to hold on to his liquor license for Trump International Hotel. > [@](#): > > Five local religious leaders and two retired judges are challenging the liquor license Trump holds for his hotel in the District of Columbia, arguing that he doesn’t have the “good character” required by law to hold such a license. > > By law, if the “true and actual owner of the establishment” serving alcohol  is not “of good character,” the liquor license can be suspended or revoked by the local Alcoholic Beverage Control Board. There are ways to attack him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25211 "2018-09-09T15:16:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The teenager who made faces behind Trump’s back at the Montana rally From the article, I gather Tyler Linfesty is a troll, but he’s an amusing troll and his target is well deserving (indeed, in desperate need) of ridicule, so it’s cool. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25212 "2018-09-09T15:19:59Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Trump’s DC liquor license is facing bad character challenges. > [More 'Bad Character' Examples Added To Trump's DC Liquor License Challenge | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-bad-character-examples-dc-liquor-license-challenge_us_5b9321ade4b0511db3e25841?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003) > > There are ways to attack him. That’s a horribly vague law, way too open to abuse. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25213 "2018-09-09T15:49:43Z")
> [@j666](#): > > That’s a horribly vague law, way too open to abuse. That was probably the intent when the law was drawn up. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25214 "2018-09-09T15:57:26Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Right. Remember, all you Trump-rally fools, you are nothing more than stage props in a PR exercise and don’t you forget it. No shame in that. After all, in Donny Two-scoops’ mind the _whole fuckin’ world_ is nought but a backdrop for the greatest story _evah!_: His life. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25215 "2018-09-09T16:24:27Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Right. Remember, all you Trump-rally fools, you are nothing more than stage props in a PR exercise and don’t you forget it. I think this is true, but do you think that Obama or Hillary Clinton’s staff would have done any different, if a member of the crowd in full view of the camera was rolling their eyes or making other dismissive faces in front of a national audience? In Obama’s case, Rahm Emmanuel probably would have taken the kid out the back and started beating him with a rubber hose, Chicago style. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25216 "2018-09-09T16:27:33Z")
> [@j666](#): > > That’s a horribly vague law, way too open to abuse. Yeah, I hate these sorts of laws, particularly when they make it relatively easy for your enemies (whether political opponents or business competition) to put your livelihood in jeopardy. To be honest, I’m not even sure you should need a license to serve liquor in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25217 "2018-09-09T16:43:40Z")
You are far more trusting than I. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25218 "2018-09-09T17:23:45Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I think this is true, but do you think that Obama or Hillary Clinton’s staff would have done any different, if a member of the crowd in full view of the camera was rolling their eyes or making other dismissive faces in front of a national audience? Maybe? Probably? How they would have hypothetically behaved doesn’t do much about how _this_ staff behaved, nor am I a great fan of the Tu Quoque in any event. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25219 "2018-09-09T17:23:46Z")
Donald Trump- setting a new standard for fucking stupid. Here’s the headline: **[Ford Kills Plan to Sell Chinese-Made Cars in the U.S., and Trump Thinks It Means They’re Going to Start Manufacturing Them Here Instead](https://jalopnik.com/ford-plans-to-stop-selling-chinese-made-cars-in-the-us-1828919615)** “Ford has abruptly killed a plan to sell a Chinese-made small vehicle in the U.S. because of the prospect of higher U.S. Tariffs.” CNBC. This is just the beginning. This car can now be BUILT IN THE U.S.A. and Ford will pay no tariffs!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Stupid fucking King of the Republicans right there. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25220 "2018-09-09T17:35:47Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Donald Trump- setting a new standard for fucking stupid. Here’s the headline: > **[Ford Kills Plan to Sell Chinese-Made Cars in the U.S., and Trump Thinks It Means They’re Going to Start Manufacturing Them Here Instead](https://jalopnik.com/ford-plans-to-stop-selling-chinese-made-cars-in-the-us-1828919615)** > > “Ford has abruptly killed a plan to sell a Chinese-made small vehicle in the U.S. because of the prospect of higher U.S. Tariffs.” CNBC. This is just the beginning. This car can now be BUILT IN THE U.S.A. and Ford will pay no tariffs!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) > > Stupid fucking King of the Republicans right there. > :smack: Maybe Ford will apply for H2-B visas for a bunch of Chinese workers since they won’t find Americans who will work for starvation wages. Wanna bet Trump will scream about it? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25221 "2018-09-09T18:08:52Z")
> [@j666](#): > > That’s a horribly vague law, way too open to abuse. There are some checks and balances. > **[More 'Bad Character' Examples Added To Trump's DC Liquor License Challenge](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-bad-character-examples-dc-liquor-license-challenge_n_5b9321ade4b0511db3e25841?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003)** > > The president needs to be "of good character" if he wants to hold on to his liquor license for Trump International Hotel. > [@](#): > > The Alcoholic Beverage Control Board will hold a hearing on the challenge Wednesday, and a decision will be announced the following day, said Levy. > > The board will decide whether to recommend a hearing to show cause to the attorney general of the District of Columbia, who will then decide what action to take. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25222 "2018-09-09T18:22:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The teenager who made faces behind Trump’s back at the Montana rally was questioned by the Secret Service for ten minutes after he was pulled off stage. Questioning the President of the United States (allegedly) is a crime now? > [#plaidshirtguy at Trump rally is ... a Billings high schooler](https://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/plaidshirtguy-at-trump-rally-is-a-billings-high-schooler/article_bb742b54-9f0e-5e77-86f1-c5a36d7cd3bd.html?=sdfd#1) They were probably hoping to find out something incriminating about this kid so they could whine to their base that the poor, helpless yet also simultaneously awesome and winning tRump was being targeted by the so-called deep state or undocumented immigrants or some other group they don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25223 "2018-09-09T18:29:09Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > To be honest, I’m not even sure you should need a license to serve liquor in the first place. [You might want to rethink that a bit.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Act_1751)😛 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25224 "2018-09-09T18:55:13Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I think this is true, but do you think that Obama or Hillary Clinton’s staff would have done any different, if a member of the crowd in full view of the camera was rolling their eyes or making other dismissive faces in front of a national audience? In Obama’s case, Rahm Emmanuel probably would have taken the kid out the back and started beating him with a rubber hose, Chicago style. 🙂 Sorry, don’t do hypotheticals, especially hyperbolic hypotheticals. Maybe you could remind our gentle readers just how many times Rahm Emmanuel actually has beaten rally attendees with rubber hoses. But it doesn’t matter, because I was actually commenting on the Trump staffer’s demand for the visual display of sufficient enthusiasm as a precondition of attendance. Here, I’ll show the kid how to be enthusiastic. “Yay! I get to stare at Trump’s doughy ass for and hour and a half! Yay!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1260) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1262)