# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25225 "2018-09-09T18:56:07Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Maybe? Probably?
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> How they would have hypothetically behaved doesn’t do much about how _this_ staff behaved, nor am I a great fan of the Tu Quoque in any event.

Don’t be a fucking idiot.

I can’t stand Trump or his administration, but this sort of PR management at televised speeches is standard operating procedure in politics. If everyone does it, and we know they do it, then it’s stupid to focus on one particular side doing it. There are plenty of things to blast the Trump administration for; unfortunately, too many people focus on the unimportant shit like this.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25226 "2018-09-09T19:16:49Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I can’t stand Trump or his administration, but this sort of PR management at televised speeches is standard operating procedure in politics.

Has the Obama or Hillary campaign ever been caught doing this, or admitted to it?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25227 "2018-09-09T19:24:22Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Has the Obama or Hillary campaign ever been caught doing this, or admitted to it?

Didn’t trump have enough rabid supporters at his rallies who could sit behind him and demonstrate sufficient enthusiasm? Why’d they need this kid in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25228 "2018-09-09T21:12:51Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> If I had the skills, I would remake that Sesame Street _Phenomenon_ song with _Anonymous_ all so I could watch Trump stroke out trying to say both _anonymous_ and the name of the critter singing.

Good idea! I could see that working as a campaign commercial for some Democrat opposing a Trump-enabler incumbent…

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25229 "2018-09-09T21:34:24Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> If I had the skills, I would remake that Sesame Street _Phenomenon_ song with _Anonymous_ all so I could watch Trump stroke out trying to say both _anonymous_ and the name of the critter singing.

You mean the “Mahna Mahna” song? This is just one of many versions that showed up about 2 minutes after Trump’s speech 😃 :

Do Dooooo Do Do Doo, Do Doo Doo Doooo

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25230 "2018-09-09T21:44:18Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Didn’t trump have enough rabid supporters at his rallies who could sit behind him and demonstrate sufficient enthusiasm? Why’d they need this kid in the first place?

They wanted a young person (actually three, he brought a couple of friends who got booted shortly after he did), similar to how they try to get that one black guy on camera whenever possible.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25231 "2018-09-09T22:22:08Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> They were probably hoping to find out something incriminating about this kid so they could whine to their base that the poor, helpless yet also simultaneously awesome and winning tRump was being targeted by the so-called deep state or undocumented immigrants or some other group they don’t like.

I believe they jumped at the chance to push someone around.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25232 "2018-09-09T22:54:46Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think this is true, but do you think that Obama or Hillary Clinton’s staff would have done any different, if a member of the crowd in full view of the camera was rolling their eyes or making other dismissive faces in front of a national audience? In Obama’s case, Rahm Emmanuel probably would have taken the kid out the back and started beating him with a rubber hose, Chicago style. 🙂

It wasn’t Clinon or Obama who openly called for violence during the campaign, at least twice.

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25233 "2018-09-10T00:32:00Z")

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Up until now, I have found myself thinking that it can’t possibly get any crazier than it is already…Only to be proven wrong again and again.

I’ve decided to adopt a new mantra: This past week was about as crazy as average…That is to say, it was crazier than the week before but not as crazy as the coming week will be.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25234 "2018-09-10T01:40:27Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> Up until now, I have found myself thinking that it can’t possibly get any crazier than it is already…Only to be proven wrong again and again.
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> I’ve decided to adopt a new mantra: This past week was about as crazy as average…That is to say, it was crazier than the week before but not as crazy as the coming week will be.

As the French say, _plus qu’hier, moins que demain_, “more than yesterday, less than tomorrow.”

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25235 "2018-09-10T02:28:05Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> As the French say, _plus qu’hier, moins que demain_, “more than yesterday, less than tomorrow.”

or as others say -

Same Shit, Different Day.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25236 "2018-09-10T02:56:38Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> or as others say -
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> Same Shit, Different Day.

The French saying (which is actually about love) is more accurate, because it’s not the same shit every day, it’s worse shit every day.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25237 "2018-09-10T04:46:25Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The French saying (which is actually about love) is more accurate, because it’s not the same shit every day, it’s worse shit every day.

shit is shit - the only thing that can change is the quantity.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25238 "2018-09-10T08:33:39Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Didn’t trump have enough rabid supporters at his rallies who could sit behind him and demonstrate sufficient enthusiasm? Why’d they need this kid in the first place?

They want people with all their teeth.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25239 "2018-09-10T08:37:59Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> They want people with all their teeth.

I cannot begin to say how much I love your post.

😃 😃 😃

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25240 "2018-09-10T10:43:54Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> shit is shit - the only thing that can change is the quantity.

Not true. There is absolutely a qualitative difference between dried up old shit (i.e. a rabbit’s pellets or Ronald Reagan) and day-old beer diarrhoea.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25241 "2018-09-10T11:56:43Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Failing Donnie supporter wipes her nose with the American flag](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4748046/girl-wipes-nose-american-flag)

Looking closely at the video, she appears to have something white in her hand which may be a tissue rather than the flag.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Suppose we scrambled his speaking so we couldn’t get what he was saying

How would we tell the difference?

> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> **This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want.**

For a moment I thought you were talking about the two people behind him at his campaign rally.

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Democratic National Committee have filed a criminal complaint with the DOJ against Brett Kavanaugh for perjury, and will file a lawsuit in the DC District Court on Monday. The presiding judge over the DC District Court is Merrick Garland.  
> [The Democratic Coalition Will File a Criminal Complaint Against Kavanaugh... Guess Who'll Review...](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/8/1794248/-The-Democratic-Coalition-Will-File-a-Criminal-Complaint-Against-Kavanaugh-Guess-Who-ll-Review)

The temptation for Garland to drop a few pointed comments during the case must be heavy.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25242 "2018-09-10T12:00:15Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Looking closely at the video, she appears to have something white in her hand which may be a tissue rather than the flag.

No, that’s just a white stripe. You can see her hand _under_ the fabric. Otherwise, how is she gripping the flag without the puckering being visible?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25243 "2018-09-10T13:19:22Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> shit is shit - the only thing that can change is the quantity.

I yield to your vast experience.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25244 "2018-09-10T17:19:28Z")

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Anybody at all feel any confidence in the current Federal Government’s ability to handle a disaster of the magnitude that is about to be Hurricane Florence?

This is the why you elect competent leadership above everything.

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