# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1266
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25305 "2018-09-12T15:12:34Z")
I rate stocks in the paper towel industry as a “buy!”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25306 "2018-09-12T15:18:12Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Of course this needs to be the biggest and worst storm ever, because everything is the biggest and bestest when it happens to Trump. He’s committed his presidency to being the biggest fuck-up in the history of the country. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25307 "2018-09-12T15:20:21Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > I, for one, certainly feel more informed after watching Trump warn about Florence… Did you know Mother Nature is bad? > > [https://youtu.be/XZ4w3YYByFA](https://youtu.be/XZ4w3YYByFA) > > Do yourselves a favor and don’t read the comments… Are you kidding? The comments are a must read. I love the rubes! I harvest their names so I can sell them things that don’t do anything. Aphrodisiacs, herbal remedies, weight loss pills…those people will swallow _anything_. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25308 "2018-09-12T15:25:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Oh, is the FBI leaking information? That’s alarming! Does anyone have a credible source of news where I could read up on that? Golly. They sure don’t seem to make FBIs like they used to! Trump was no doubt shocked to find that the FBI doesn’t share his cavalier attitude towards crime. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25309 "2018-09-12T15:26:54Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Are you kidding? The comments are a must read. I love the rubes! I harvest their names so I can sell them things that don’t do anything. Aphrodisiacs, herbal remedies, weight loss pills…those people will swallow _anything_. Well, not vaccines. They’re not going to fall for any of that science nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25310 "2018-09-12T15:30:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > He’s committed his presidency to being the biggest fuck-up in the history of the country. Of coiurse. You can’t make America great AGAIN without taking a pretty great America and turning it into a dystopian hellscape. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25311 "2018-09-12T15:36:51Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Are you kidding? The comments are a must read. I love the rubes! I harvest their names so I can sell them things that don’t do anything. Aphrodisiacs, herbal remedies, weight loss pills…those people will swallow _anything_. Of course you’re right - I especially like the people that think this is a weapon controlled by HAARP. I can’t figure out their logic though - is it the Deep State that runs the weather weapon and they’re pointing it at us as a war against Trump? Is it Trump aiming it at North Carolina so he can turn it at the last second and take credit for saving us? Inquiring minds want to know! That video I posted is a classic example of how Trump always looks like he’s winging it. He reminds me of people in grade school who had to give a book report but never bothered to read it, instead just looking through the Cliff’s Notes before standing in front of the class. He clearly has only the most rudimentary level of useful information and even that he can barely pass on. Add that with the ridiculous hand gestures and he just looks like an amateur car salesman. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25312 "2018-09-12T15:46:25Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Surely Pat Robertson’s “[Shield of Protection](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-robertson-establishes-a-shield-of-protection-against-hurricane-florence/)” will keep the Carolinas safe? No,[Jerry Falwell](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/15/us/after-attacks-finding-fault-falwell-s-finger-pointing-inappropriate-bush-says.html)said God took away the protective umbrella because we let gays & lesbians have civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25313 "2018-09-12T15:53:12Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > …That video I posted is a classic example of how Trump always looks like he’s winging it. He reminds me of people in grade school who had to give a book report but never bothered to read it, instead just looking through the Cliff’s Notes before standing in front of the class. He clearly has only the most rudimentary level of useful information and even that he can barely pass on. Add that with the ridiculous hand gestures and he just looks like an amateur car salesman. Well said. Sometimes they didn’t even bother looking at the Cliff’s Notes. :dubious: After all, even that required some reading comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25314 "2018-09-12T15:57:00Z")
Not if you’re only looking for key words that you can weave into something. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25315 "2018-09-12T16:02:45Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > No,[Jerry Falwell](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/15/us/after-attacks-finding-fault-falwell-s-finger-pointing-inappropriate-bush-says.html)said God took away the protective umbrella because we let gays & lesbians have civil rights. Drat! Why’d we go and do that? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25316 "2018-09-12T16:07:11Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > No,[Jerry Falwell](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/15/us/after-attacks-finding-fault-falwell-s-finger-pointing-inappropriate-bush-says.html)said God took away the protective umbrella because we let gays & lesbians have civil rights. > [@gytalf2000](#): > > Drat! Why’d we go and do that? :smack: You mean we could have avoided all those hurricanes? And the volcanic eruptions in Hawaii? And earthquakes? And the droughts, too? \*\*Why didn’t Jerry speak up sooner?? \*\* :mad: ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25317 "2018-09-12T16:31:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You mean we could have avoided all those hurricanes? And the volcanic eruptions in Hawaii? And earthquakes? And the droughts, too? \*\*Why didn’t Jerry speak up sooner?? \*\* :mad: Hey, this stuff starts at the top, and standards have clearly slipped in the last four thousand years. The Old Testament God handed out the memos on a fairly regularly basis: “Noah, build a really big boat.” “Lot, get your family out of Soddom, and whatever you do, don’t look back.” “Abe, sacrifice your son that you waited eighty years to have – NO! Wait wait! Just kidding - don’t kill him, I was just checking…” Have we gotten anything that clear-cut and unequivocal since He let His kid get nailed to a tree? Hell no! I mean, maybe you count the [Miracle of Fatima](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/35/what-happened-to-the-secret-message-of-fatima/), but I’ve seen clearer interpretations of Don McLean lyrics. As to your questin, Jerry was probably too busy visiting hookers or seeing 900-foot-tall visions of the Messiah in Tulsa to give us handy updates from Above. ---
**Author:** ![Chip\_Dundas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@Chip\_Dundas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chip_Dundas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25318 "2018-09-12T16:39:27Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Standard right-wing propaganda practice these days: start with a false statement (“the FBI is leaking information”) then extrapolate and spin from that (“the FBI is leaking _false_ information”) and again (“the FBI is leaking false information _illegally and unconstitutionally_”) and again (“The FBI is leaking false information illegally and unconstitutionally _as part of a conspiracy with the Special Prosecutor to keep the President in check_”) and eventually wrap up with a conclusion that owes nothing to reality (“_Therefore this is all a witch hunt and there is no actual evidence of wrongdoing_”). It’s a tried-and-true method; it’s how we got eight Benghazi investigations, after all. Never mind that it is blatantly false, goes against the actual facts of the matter and is internally contradictory (for example, if the FBI is leaking false information, how can it be a 4th Amendment violation?) - it’s a good story that people want to believe and reality (and the country) be damned. The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute. The fact you said this is a false statement is why I stopped reading the rest of your post. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25319 "2018-09-12T16:42:47Z")
Don’t worry, [Christians are](https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article218206305.html) [on it](http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/christian-prophetess-orders-hurricane-florence-to-not-do-destructive-things/). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25320 "2018-09-12T16:43:41Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute. The fact you said this is a false statement is why I stopped reading the rest of your post. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/IgsXOXGPxfT3O/giphy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25321 "2018-09-12T16:45:29Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute. The fact you said this is a false statement is why I stopped reading the rest of your post. I dispute it. Provide a cite, please. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25322 "2018-09-12T17:00:07Z")
> [@Chip\_Dundas](#): > > The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute. The fact you said this is a false statement is why I stopped reading the rest of your post. That and it had a lot of really big words. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25323 "2018-09-12T17:00:21Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I dispute it. Provide a cite, please. [It’s another one of the iDJiT’s baseless conspiracy theories.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/11/trumps-new-reckless-peter-strzok-conspiracy-theory/?utm_term=.dff6d4de9053) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25324 "2018-09-12T17:08:54Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Okay, when I said “water wet” above it was intended to be a hyperbolic statement of the blatantly obvious, not a recommendation for a Presidential talking point. > > > [@President Stupidhed](#): > > > > It’s tremendously big and tremendously wet, tremendous amounts of water > > On the plus side, that much is at least a truthful statement so we have to give him credit for that. The part where he says, “… _we have the finest people, I Think, in the world, FEMA, the first responders_ …” can be twisted into a caricature of accurate if you infer the ellipsis as “_the finest people_ (that I can con into working for me)”. Although, the “_I think_” is a dubious claim. It appears that he is, but is that actually solid evidence of thought? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1265) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1267)