# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25325 "2018-09-12T17:14:03Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You mean we could have avoided all those hurricanes? And the volcanic eruptions in Hawaii? And earthquakes? And the droughts, too? \*\*Why didn’t Jerry speak up sooner?? \*\* :mad:

Hey, don’t be too harsh on poor Jerry. He seems to have protected us from lice, locusts and swarms of frogs… perhaps others 😃

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25326 "2018-09-12T18:24:57Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> J/k. I know those are real thumpists. Sigh.

In [_Clovenhoof and the Trump of Doom_](https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1U4MXO/ref=kinw_myk_ro_title), it turns out that Nostradamus had predicted Trump winning the US presidency and the UK leaving the EU were the final two steps to unleash the end of the world. Satan and the archangel Michael have been condemned to living in Birmingham (long story) and are tasked with stopping this. Michael takes off for CERN to use the LHC to bollocks up Eurovision while Clovenhoof flies to the US to queer DJT’s election.

He attends a rally in North Carolina with a trayful of LSD-laced brownies then records quickie interviews with them and regular attendees. When he’s showing the results to the cabbie whom he’d inveigled into driving him up from Florida, the guy could nottell who had been dosed and who had not.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25327 "2018-09-12T19:09:26Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Jack Nicholson You Cant Handle The Truth GIF](https://media.giphy.com/media/IgsXOXGPxfT3O/giphy.gif)

[No U!](https://media.giphy.com/media/ByUDWjce12r3q/giphy.gif)

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25328 "2018-09-12T20:02:22Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute. The fact you said this is a false statement is why I stopped reading the rest of your post.

It’s in dispute.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25329 "2018-09-12T20:14:04Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute.

Cite please?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25330 "2018-09-12T20:23:46Z")

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The architect for Trump Tower said Trump ordered her to remove Braille from the elevators in the Tower despite federal law. Because blind people wouldn’t be living there. She refused to do it, of course.

> **[Trump asked to have Braille removed from elevators in early 1980s, executive...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-asked-to-have-braille-removed-from-elevators-in-early-1980s-executive-says/2018/09/12/67d97548-b6a6-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?utm_term=.2b9e130325ca)**
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> Barbara Res, a former vice president of the Trump Organization, made the allegation in an op-ed about her former boss.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25331 "2018-09-12T20:34:16Z")

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I hope every voter eligible finds out about this before the midterms.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25332 "2018-09-12T20:41:11Z")

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Would anybody be surprised enough to notice?

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25333 "2018-09-12T21:04:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You mean we could have avoided all those hurricanes? And the volcanic eruptions in Hawaii? And earthquakes? And the droughts, too? \*\*Why didn’t Jerry speak up sooner?? \*\* :mad:

Well, he did say that 17 years ago.

> [@evangelical assholes in 2001](#):
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> Several conservative theologians and evangelists said in interviews yesterday that they agreed with the basic notion but rejected the idea that mere humans can ever know which particular sins lead to which particular tragedies.

So can’t really say if it’s gay sex=earthquakes or abortion=hurricanes. Could be the other way around. Their god works in mysterious ways.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25334 "2018-09-13T00:16:22Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Well, he did say that 17 years ago.
> 
> So can’t really say if it’s gay sex=earthquakes or abortion=hurricanes. Could be the other way around. Their god works in mysterious ways.

Your way has that Freudian evangelical _frisson_ we’ve come to know so well.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25335 "2018-09-13T02:11:03Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> I dispute it. Provide a cite, please.

For some Trumpsters, all it takes is for Trump to say or tweet something and it becomes TRUTH for them.

The cognitive dissonance, projection, and delusion of the Trump believer is breathtaking in its scope.

I have several of these people as FB friends. I keep them as a barometer of the lunacy.

Why, just today I learned some things. To name a few:

The economy under Obama was the worst in US history and, our _Great White Hope_ [I kid you not!] has not only fixed it, but made it the best in US history in just a few months all by his brilliant policies.

Democrats are going to sabotage the hurricane relieve effort, by withholding supplies and stealing money, just like they did in Puerto Rico. This one is strange because 1) Democrats weren’t/aren’t running the show, and 2) as Trump tells us, Puerto Rico was a smashing success!

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is the greatest and most honest Press Secretary ever who regularly exposes and embarrasses the Lame Stream Media for the ignorant fools they are.

Obama is committing treason by “resisting” and trying to “overthrow” Trump.

Related to the above, Obama, Hillary, and most of his administration will be in federal prison soon.

And most prevailing, Trump is a great man and The Greatest President Ever and anyone who can’t see this is just too stupid, ignorant, brainwashed by Satanic/Muslim-loving Liberals/Socialists, and an embarrassing tool of the Deep State.

Most of these people are from my hometown who never went to college, are white, and hold manual labor jobs. So, even if they can’t spell, assess information, or use logic, I can see why Trump and his anti-immigrant, anti-minority, and anti-intellectual rhetoric appeals to them. For them, MAGA = white, blue collar males are higher in the social, economic hierarchy than these OTHERS.

It’s only a matter of time before they are posting “Impeach Obama!” and “Impeach Hillary!” memes.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25336 "2018-09-13T03:08:39Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> For some Trumpsters, all it takes is for Trump to say or tweet something and it becomes TRUTH for them.
> 
> The cognitive dissonance, projection, and delusion of the Trump believer is breathtaking in its scope.
> 
> …\<snip\>…
> 
> And most prevailing, Trump is a great man and The Greatest President Ever and anyone who can’t see this is just too stupid, ignorant, brainwashed by Satanic/Muslim-loving Liberals/Socialists, and an embarrassing tool of the Deep State.
> 
> Most of these people are from my hometown who never went to college, are white, and hold manual labor jobs. So, even if they can’t spell, assess information, or use logic, I can see why Trump and his anti-immigrant, anti-minority, and anti-intellectual rhetoric appeals to them. For them, MAGA = white, blue collar males are higher in the social, economic hierarchy than these OTHERS.
> 
> It’s only a matter of time before they are posting “Impeach Obama!” and “Impeach Hillary!” memes.

Yeah, this is the most disturbing thing of all. And the reason I haven’t and can’t post in the “I’m hopeful” thread.

I spent several hours with a young (28) relative last week, and when he left I was the most discouraged I’ve been since the election. This young man is not a hard-core MAGAbot or anything. He’s just an uninformed person who catches things as they fly through the air and doesn’t bother to investigate. He can’t understand why “the liberals just want Trump to fail. Why would they want him to fail? He’s the President!” He was positive that ALL of the immigrant children have been reunited with their parents, but isn’t interested enough to find out if my telling him that’s not the case is, in fact, true. He doesn’t necessarily believe FOX news, but he also doesn’t believe the New York Times, the Washington Post, or CNN either. He said WaPo is nothing but editorials. I said the editorials are editorials and the articles contain facts. I’m 100% positive he’s never read the Washington Post. He said he only trusts NPR and the BBC.

Background: he is the child of parents who have Master’s degrees. The form his rebellion took was to drop out of high school and get a GED. His area of expertise is organizing auto parts’ warehouses. He doesn’t know anything about modern American history before 9/11. He doesn’t know what Watergate was about. Never heard of the 1968 Democratic convention, the massive anti-Vietnam war movement, Kent State. He has no context for thump, either through education or through personal experience.

That conversation plunged me into despair.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25337 "2018-09-13T03:37:49Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
>
> For some Trumpsters, all it takes is for Trump to say or tweet something and it becomes TRUTH for them.
> 
> The cognitive dissonance, projection, and delusion of the Trump believer is breathtaking in its scope.
> 
> I have several of these people as FB friends. I keep them as a barometer of the lunacy.
> 
> Why, just today I learned some things. To name a few:
> 
> The economy under Obama was the worst in US history and, our _Great White Hope_ [I kid you not!] has not only fixed it, but made it the best in US history in just a few months all by his brilliant policies.
> 
> Democrats are going to sabotage the hurricane relieve effort, by withholding supplies and stealing money, just like they did in Puerto Rico. This one is strange because 1) Democrats weren’t/aren’t running the show, and 2) as Trump tells us, Puerto Rico was a smashing success!
> 
> Sarah Huckabee Sanders is the greatest and most honest Press Secretary ever who regularly exposes and embarrasses the Lame Stream Media for the ignorant fools they are.
> 
> Obama is committing treason by “resisting” and trying to “overthrow” Trump.
> 
> Related to the above, Obama, Hillary, and most of his administration will be in federal prison soon.
> 
> And most prevailing, Trump is a great man and The Greatest President Ever and anyone who can’t see this is just too stupid, ignorant, brainwashed by Satanic/Muslim-loving Liberals/Socialists, and an embarrassing tool of the Deep State.
> 
> Most of these people are from my hometown who never went to college, are white, and hold manual labor jobs. So, even if they can’t spell, assess information, or use logic, I can see why Trump and his anti-immigrant, anti-minority, and anti-intellectual rhetoric appeals to them. For them, MAGA = white, blue collar males are higher in the social, economic hierarchy than these OTHERS.
> 
> It’s only a matter of time before they are posting “Impeach Obama!” and “Impeach Hillary!” memes.

I’m gonna need some cites. No seriously.  
I’d like to enjoy the one about Obama, Hillary, and his administration being in federal prison soon.

Most of my FB friends have cut out the DJT! DJT! nonsense. Or they’ve blocked/unfriended/whatever me. So I don’t get to see the nuttery.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25338 "2018-09-13T03:40:17Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> … and, our _Great White Hope_ [I kid you not!] has not only fixed it, but made it the best in US history in just a few months all by his brilliant policies.

This sounds like something a North Korean would say about Kim. (Which Kim? Any of them.)

Next thing you know, Trump will be returning from a golfing weekend claiming to have scored five holes-in-one, just like Kim Jong-Il. Actually, he will claim six, just to be better than Kim Jong-Il.

And sadly, his supporters will believe it. ☹

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25339 "2018-09-13T04:54:35Z")

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The Trump Administration has decided to give Mexico money to help deport illegal immigrants.  
[Link](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-plans-to-pay-mexico-to-deport-unauthorized-immigrants-there/ar-BBNfUGc?li=BBnb7Kz).

Hey-maybe now they’ll be willing to chip in a little for the wall.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25340 "2018-09-13T05:02:26Z")

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NPR and the BBC aren’t exactly rags. He could do worse. I don’t understand why he isn’t up on the stolen children issue, though.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25341 "2018-09-13T05:04:55Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I’m gonna need some cites. No seriously.  
> I’d like to enjoy the one about Obama, Hillary, and his administration being in federal prison soon.
> 
> Most of my FB friends have cut out the DJT! DJT! nonsense. Or they’ve blocked/unfriended/whatever me. So I don’t get to see the nuttery.

It looks like the prison one was partly something that Bannon posted that this guy shared:

> [@](#):
>
> Originally shared by **Steve Bannon**?  
> I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of President Trump’s first term you see multiple people from Barack Obama’s administration if not he himself in Federal prison The level of corruption being uncovered right now will rock the nation.

[https://me.me/i/steve-bannon-6-hrs-i-wouldnt-be-surprised-if-by-11144634](https://me.me/i/steve-bannon-6-hrs-i-wouldnt-be-surprised-if-by-11144634)

Not surprising he would be sharing Bannon. Hard to tell if these things are real, though. Other things he must have signed up to get daily by email since this particular guys posts multiple pro-Trump/anti-Obama or Hillary items every…single…day.

> [@Spoons](#):
>
> This sounds like something a North Korean would say about Kim. (Which Kim? Any of them.)
> 
> Next thing you know, Trump will be returning from a golfing weekend claiming to have scored five holes-in-one, just like Kim Jong-Il. Actually, he will claim six, just to be better than Kim Jong-Il.
> 
> And sadly, his supporters will believe it. ☹

Yeah, some of the things you see are beyond nutty–Hillary will make Americas pray to Mecca so Muslim terrorists will help her with the Russians to steal the election. Share so people know!!!

The real Trump nuts already think Trump is the greatest President ever, always the smartest guy in the room, an incredibly successful businessman, and incorruptible because he’s such a billionaire so many times over he doesn’t need money. So, why not a great golfer? I bet he could win on the PGA Tour! (I’ve read he cheats, though. Somehow not surprising.)

To the rest of the world, Trump is a buffoonish, delusional narcissist whose dementia has made child-like, complete with lack of worldly knowledge and temper tantrums.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25342 "2018-09-13T11:20:03Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> To the rest of the world, Trump is a buffoonish, delusional narcissist whose dementia has made child-like, complete with lack of worldly knowledge and temper tantrums.

And, right on cue, this morning’s first anti-Obama FB share is a two-part picture of Obama. The top picture has Obama dressed as an emperor and says “This is how Obama sees himself.” In the bottom picture Obama is dressed like a clown with the caption “This is how the world sees Obama.”

The psychological projection and delusion are just uncanny. Some of these sites have to been trolling Trump supporters, right? In high school, this particular FB friend was confused by “am” and “pm” after the time: “I always get those mixed up”, so that’s how obtuse he is and it makes it hard to tell if what he shares are even legit Trump support memes.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25343 "2018-09-13T11:38:07Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> The FBI already did leak information illegally and this is not in dispute.

As already noted, it is indeed in dispute. Put up or shut up.

> [@](#):
>
> The fact you said this is a false statement is why I stopped reading the rest of your post.

The fact that you deliberately and immediately stopped reading the moment you encountered truths you didn’t like is unsurprising to the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25344 "2018-09-13T12:20:12Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> NPR and the BBC aren’t exactly rags. He could do worse.

Guessing his girlfriend lives in Canada. So you’ll never meet her.

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