# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2541 "2017-03-19T21:49:50Z")
100% of the African delegates to an annual US-Africa economic conference were denied visas. > **[Africa Trade Meeting Has No Africans After US Visa Denials](https://www.voanews.com/a/african-trade-conference-canceled-after-visas-denied-african-delegates/3770907.html)** > > Visa issues aren't uncommon for annual gathering, but 100 percent denial rate is; summit chair says 'most of us feel it's a discrimination issue' ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2542 "2017-03-19T21:55:47Z")
HHS Secretary Tom Price thinks it should be up to the states whether or not people should be immunized. > **[Trump Health Secretary: States Should Only Require Vaccines If They Feel Like It](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/03/price-says-states-should-decide-on-vaccines.html?mid=fb-share-di)** > > Good thing infectious diseases can’t cross state lines. I didn’t realize epidemics stopped at state boundaries. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2543 "2017-03-19T22:04:37Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Yes, the extremist “Bernie Bros” (as a friend refers to them) were less influential and wanted different things than Trump boosters. But their demands (e.g. breaking up the banks) were just as unrealistic and potentially destructive, and their blanket rejection of anyone but Bernie was not helpful in showing the Democratic leadership the error of its ways in relentlessly promoting Clinton despite some obvious deficiencies. The same is true for Jill Stein voters who bought into her claims of using a “quantitative easing” plan to eliminate student debt, and whatever the fuck it was that Gary Johnson was offering. > > We all live in this country–which includes in-the-whole student loan hostages, oil tycoons, laid off manufacturing workers, wealth East coast liberals, undocumented immigrants, teachers, bankers, ignorant bigots, enlightened yoga instructors, and Mark Cuban’s ego–and we need to figure out a way to represent the interests and will of the aggregate instead of just giving the spotlight to small groups of radicals alternately screaming to the left and the right. Bernie not working out? (And no, Bernie Sanders was never going to win the national vote, regardless of how enthused his supporters were, even against Donald Trump.) Then accept it and endorse a viable candidate rather than just screaming invective. You may have been rational in your allegiance but many Sanders boosters weren’t to a point of figurative self-immolation, and now we have President Donald Trump, three words that go together about as well as “Broccoli Ice Cream” or “Yellow Fever Delight”. > > Stranger Breaking up the banks was a Sanders plank? Do you have a better example of radical liberal thought in the election? I don’t see it. Anything like that never had a sniff at winning. donald won. There is a difference between Susan Sarandon thinking things need to be shaken up and trump voters thinking things should be shaken up. She wanted trump to illustrate how bad things were. They want trump, so what if he’s bad. I disagree with you about those deserving of representation: Everyone does, including the KKK, and the 3 million voters who voted for hillary and lost the electoral contest, did you forget them? Everyone is entitled, but of late we are not getting it, whereas donald’s voters are getting plenty of representation at the moment. Sorry make that: they are getting what they asked for. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2544 "2017-03-19T23:54:58Z")
[White House installs political aides](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/white-house-installs-political-aides-at-cabinet-agencies-to-be-trumps-eyes-and-ears/2017/03/19/68419f0e-08da-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.1aca94780625) at Cabinet agencies to be Trump’s eyes and ears. Alles klar,[Herr Kommissar?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Xulsjo5I). ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2545 "2017-03-20T00:02:19Z")
While I’m happy that his already poor approval ratings are [falling again](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-approval-rating-hits-new-low-2017-3), it still concerns me that 37 out of 100 people in this country actually do approve of this administration. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2546 "2017-03-20T00:36:18Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > While I’m happy that his already poor approval ratings are [falling again](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-approval-rating-hits-new-low-2017-3), it still concerns me that 37 out of 100 people in this country actually do approve of this administration. According to a tweet by Kurt Eichenwald, Nixon’s approval rating was 28%…a few weeks before he resigned. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2547 "2017-03-20T01:10:39Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > According to a tweet by Kurt Eichenwald, Nixon’s approval rating was 28%…a few weeks before he resigned. Nixon had enough sense to resign. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2548 "2017-03-20T01:39:09Z")
Unfortunately a disproportionate number of Congress people are among that 37%. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2549 "2017-03-20T01:43:15Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Unfortunately a disproportionate number of Congress people are among that 37%. For now. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2550 "2017-03-20T02:01:24Z")
So besides his weekly vacation trips, now we have to pay to boost his ego. [Trump escapes the Beltway as challenges mount](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-escapes-beltway-challenges-mount-120856106.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump is returning to the road, rallying supporters to recapture the enthusiasm of his campaign and reassuring them about his tumultuous early days in the White House. > > It’s a welcome distraction for a president whose first months in office have been dominated by self-inflicted controversy and roadblocks, courtesy of federal courts and a divided Congress. > > “We have done far more, I think maybe more than anybody’s done in this office in 50 days, that I can tell you,” Trump said to cheers from thousands of supporters at a campaign rally in Nashville, Tennessee. > > On the trip back to Washington that night, Trump bounded back to the press section of Air Force One to share his excitement. > > “Quite an event, huh?” he said, appearing without warning, with no staff in tow. “It was a big crowd. Great crowd. That was a great crowd. Great people, great spirit.” > > **He said he plans to continue the events, holding rallies every two weeks.** > > Throughout the campaign, Trump relied on his rallies to speak directly to his supporters. Networks often carried the events live, giving Trump what were essentially free 50-minute infomercials watched by millions. > > The events also energized Trump, who thrives on the rush of performing to adoring crowds. And not a peep from those who piled on Obama for taking a few vacations. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2551 "2017-03-20T02:27:11Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So besides his weekly vacation trips, now we have to pay to boost his ego. > [Trump escapes the Beltway as challenges mount](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-escapes-beltway-challenges-mount-120856106.html) > > And not a peep from those who piled on Obama for taking a few vacations. He should be paying for this out of campaign funds. He’ll do this as long as he’s allowed, every two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2552 "2017-03-20T02:28:08Z")
He’s done “far more” than any other President in the first 50 days? Obama got the ARRA through in less than 30 days. Sure, you can debate the merits of that legislation, but it was introduced on 1/26/2009 and signed on 2/17/2009. The Trump administration can barely get out an executive order. And aren’t we still waiting on the long promised strategy to defeat ISIS? The constant boasting is so transparent and so needless. It just boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2553 "2017-03-20T02:29:05Z")
I’m sure at least some of those 37% are the authoritarian types. My father doesn’t like Trump, but he’s one of those people who believe in absolute authority. I complain about my boss doing something straight out unethical and possibly illegal - my father snaps “He’s your boss and he can do what he wants!” My sisters are sitting there - one a VP and one a Manager - shaking their heads ‘no’ wide-eyed at my father’s bullshit. One of them says 'I’d be fired and maybe sued if I did that!" Nope, father insists that because he’s my boss, he can do whatever the fuck he wants and I’d better snap to it. So they’re sitting there going “Yup, he’s the President and he can do what he wants”. And of course, since they’re such loyal puppies, when they get kicked, they think they deserved it. Then of course, there’s the purely partisan hacks, who will cheer on anyone with any position as long as he’s their guy. Trump could tell them that we’re going to invade North Korea and there may be some American cities nuked as a consequence, and we may end up at war with China, and these morons would go “FUCK YEAH! GAME ON!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2554 "2017-03-20T02:29:58Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > He should be paying for this out of campaign funds. He’ll do this as long as he’s allowed, every two weeks. I don’t trust the fucker. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2555 "2017-03-20T02:33:01Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > He’s done “far more” than any other President in the first 50 days? Obama got the ARRA through in less than 30 days. Sure, you can debate the merits of that legislation, but it was introduced on 1/26/2009 and signed on 2/17/2009. Yeah, but Obama did that with the ‘help’ of Congress. Trump’s travel ban, uncovering the secret wiretapping conspiracy, and renegotiating a refugee deal with Australian PM Turnball was done all on his own, using his personal charm, charisma, and business savvy. Therefore, he gets all the credit. Unless it doesn’t work out, in which case he’s going to blame you personally, **Bayard**. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2556 "2017-03-20T02:48:56Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Yeah, but Obama did that with the ‘help’ of Congress. Trump’s travel ban, uncovering the secret wiretapping conspiracy, and renegotiating a refugee deal with Australian PM Turnball was done all on his own, using his personal charm, charisma, and business savvy. Therefore, he gets all the credit. Unless it doesn’t work out, in which case he’s going to blame you personally, **Bayard**. > > Stranger Nah, I work peripherally in the auto industry. I’ll probably get the blame when all those manufacturing jobs don’t come flooding back to Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2557 "2017-03-20T03:00:47Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I don’t trust the fucker. You’re just not giving him a chance! I’m sure he’ll pivot any day now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2558 "2017-03-20T16:31:52Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > He should be paying for this out of campaign funds. He’ll do this as long as he’s allowed, every two weeks. Who’s going to stop him? Seriously. He can do Whatever. He. Wants. And he will. > [@The\_Tooth](#): > > You’re just not giving him a chance! I’m sure he’ll pivot any day now. 😃 Did you say \*pivot \*or _divot_? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2559 "2017-03-20T16:42:34Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > He’s done “far more” than any other President in the first 50 days? Obama got the ARRA through in less than 30 days. Sure, you can debate the merits of that legislation, but it was introduced on 1/26/2009 and signed on 2/17/2009. The Trump administration can barely get out an executive order. And aren’t we still waiting on the long promised strategy to defeat ISIS? > > The constant boasting is so transparent and so needless. It just boggles the mind. As far as I can tell: if you don’t count undoing the work of his predecessor (and I don’t – a flatworm could be trained to issue an Executive Order un-doing something)…he’s done jack shit. A failed Muslim ban is all he has to show. Oh, right…he nominated a SCOTUS judge…which he should never have had the opportunity to do. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2560 "2017-03-20T16:59:08Z")
When he goes to the Southern Whitetrash House does his entourage all take rooms at the going rate, or do they get a break. I’m sure the Secret Service aren’t sleeping in their cars. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=129)