# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1281
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25605 "2018-09-20T20:19:56Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Not in public. Context matters. He once whipped out his dick at reporters asking him why the US was involved in Vietnam. That’s \*somewhat \*public. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25606 "2018-09-20T20:39:35Z")
ABC News is reporting that Cohen has had numerous interviews with Mueller’s team over the past month, discussing Russia, collusion, and pardons. > **[Michael Cohen spoke to Mueller team for hours; asked about Russia, possible...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-spoke-mueller-team-hours-asked-russia/story?id=57959664)** > > Michael Cohen has been interviewed by the special counsel's team multiple times, sources say. He’s also working with a separate investigation alleging that the Trump Foundation misused charitable donations for campaign and other expenses. It’s related to a lawsuit naming Trump, Eric, Don Jr., and Ivanka as defendants. Given the timing, there’s some (wild) speculation that some news may break tomorrow. Get the popcorn ready. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25607 "2018-09-20T21:34:57Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Canoe Cruisers Association of Greater Washington is suing the administration because the Secret Service closes the Potomac River near Trump’s golf course every time he golfs there. Which happens frequently. > [Lawsuit: Donald Trump's golfing illegally restricts Potomac River](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2018/09/20/lawsuit-donald-trumps-golfing-illegally-restricts-potomac-river/1365377002/) Former Presidents receive secret service protection. Will the river be closed when he plays there when he is no longer President? ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25608 "2018-09-20T23:33:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Former Presidents receive secret service protection. Will the river be closed when he plays there when he is no longer President? He won’t have access. Do federal prisons have golf courses? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25609 "2018-09-21T00:29:52Z")
But if he did wind up prison, it would have to be the biggest, the best, and definitely the tallest prison. And, yes, with an 18-holer. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25610 "2018-09-21T01:11:47Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > …And, yes, with an 18-holer. Are we still talking about golf? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25611 "2018-09-21T01:15:57Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Former Presidents receive secret service protection. Will the river be closed when he plays there when he is no longer President? > [@HelenGawn](#): > > He won’t have access. Do federal prisons have golf courses? > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > But if he did wind up prison, it would have to be the biggest, the best, and definitely the tallest prison. Wait… if a former POTUS is convicted of a crime and sentenced to jail time, does he get Secret Service protection while in prison? 😕 ETA: Real question here, folks. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25612 "2018-09-21T01:35:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Wait… if a former POTUS is convicted of a crime and sentenced to jail time, does he get Secret Service protection while in prison? 😕 > > ETA: Real question here, folks. According to [Slate](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/would-a-former-president-get-secret-service-protection-in-prison.html), the answer is: maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25613 "2018-09-21T01:57:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’ll also remind everyone: there are NO good Republicans – none. > > If someone’s a Republican, they’re a member of the Nazi party. Very funny. I can’t say I am proud of anyone at the end if this process- the Senate in general looks shifty. But my rant was fair. Your excessive hyperbole is way out of proportion, mister. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25614 "2018-09-21T02:43:26Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > To give credit where credit is due, LBJ was actually way cruder than Trump ever was, and talked about his dick ( he nicknamed it “Jumbo”) way more than Trump. Johnson would actually whip it out during arguments. And he claimed he had more women by accident than Kennedy had on purpose. I’ll give credit to Johnson for that. Johnson cursed and drank and rough housed his dogs and did his best to promote a progressive agenda, and, yes, got sucked in to the quagmire of Viet Nam and was destroyed by the end(ing) of open colonialism, and this former East Coast Elitist\* has come to appreciate him. As Molly Ivins said, Texas gave you Lyndon Johnson, and you cowards gave him right back. [I cannot located where she said this, unfortunately, so I recommend everyone buy all her books and look for the statement] \*Elitist, not Elite > [@Kobal2](#): > > He once whipped out his dick at reporters asking him why the US was involved in Vietnam. That’s \*somewhat \*public. And right. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25615 "2018-09-21T04:01:51Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Very funny. I can’t say I am proud of anyone at the end if this process- the Senate in general looks shifty. But my rant was fair. Your excessive hyperbole is way out of proportion, mister. Republicans are unpatriotic scum. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25616 "2018-09-21T04:20:30Z")
:eek: > [@"\[peoplemag](#): > > ([https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-hurricane-florence-survivor-nice-boat/amp/](https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-hurricane-florence-survivor-nice-boat/amp/))"]While surveying the damage in the low-lying neighborhood of New Bern, North Carolina, the president came upon a yacht that had washed ashore into a resident’s backyard. > “Is this your boat? Or . . . did it become your boat?” Trump asked the man who lived in the house, according to pool reports. > After the homeowner replied that no, it was not his boat, Trump reportedly said with a smile, “At least you got a nice boat out of the deal.” :eek: :smack: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25617 "2018-09-21T04:26:53Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > He once whipped out his dick at reporters asking him why the US was involved in Vietnam. You know, that’s the best explanation for the Vietnam War I’ve ever heard. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25618 "2018-09-21T05:33:36Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Very funny. I can’t say I am proud of anyone at the end if this process- the Senate in general looks shifty. But my rant was fair. Your excessive hyperbole is way out of proportion, mister. > [@asahi](#): > > Republicans are unpatriotic scum. Please – I’m trying to make _America-hating fuckstick_ a thing. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25619 "2018-09-21T05:59:33Z")
Trying to make “_America-hating fucksticks_” stick? ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25620 "2018-09-21T06:06:59Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > But if he did wind up prison, it would have to be the biggest, the best, and definitely the tallest prison. > > And, yes, with an 18-holer. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Are we still talking about golf? :dubious: Could be a big prison outhouse. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25621 "2018-09-21T06:19:46Z")
Little Shitgibbon-redux twitted [a picture](https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/politics/anderson-cooper-vs-donald-trump-jr-cnntv/index.html) showing Anderson Cooper “faking” the depth of the floodwaters in order to make CFSG look bad. A picture from Texas after Hurricane Ike, ten years ago. This is one of those right-wing meme circulations that he picked up. I mean, there is something distressingly meta about lying about fake news. It evokes the meaning of my username. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25622 "2018-09-21T13:56:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Republicans are unpatriotic scum. Eisenhower was a good guy. He said that taxing business made them increase their business for the tax deduction, creating more jobs. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25623 "2018-09-21T14:36:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Republicans are unpatriotic scum. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Eisenhower was a good guy. He said that taxing business made them increase their business for the tax deduction, creating more jobs. TODAY’s Republicans. This is NOT the party of Eisenhower. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25624 "2018-09-21T15:18:18Z")
Trump [just suggested](https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/21/politics/donald-trump-brett-kavanaugh-accuser-tweets/index.html)that Kavanaugh’s accuser is lying because if it “was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities”. This is just…I expected to see something like this out of him but still actually seeing it happen just infuriates me. It’s a reflection of how many in our society still view sexual assault and how it ‘should’ be handled. The reality isn’t that simple. And just when I thought it was just Trump being his awful self, I[saw this](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/09/21/gop-women-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-florida-kaye-pkg-ac-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-misconduct-allegations/). I…just …hearing things like that coming from women of all places just made me sick. But that’s probably another thread in itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1280) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1282)