# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1283
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25645 "2018-09-21T19:46:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We don’t have a Cheeto-Faced Shit Gibbon smilie? You couldn’t shove enough shit in the teeth to properly make the point. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25646 "2018-09-21T20:11:23Z")
Remember how during the campaign, the CFSG had a [wild hair up his butt about trade deficits](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/26/trump-trade-deficits-tweets-237623)? > [@](#): > > The U.S. recorded its slowest economic growth in five years (2016). GDP up only 1.6%. Trade deficits hurt the economy very badly. I guess he thinks that his tariffs will somehow lower the trade deficit, despite that most economists disagree. But there’s a reason you haven’t heard him talk about trade deficits lately. According to [the Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c0004.html) trade deficits haven’t gone down. In fact, au contraire: Year Trade Deficit Monthly Average 2018 (Thru July) 490,152 70,022 2017 795,690 66,307 2016 736,577 61,381 2015 745,483 62,124 2014 734,482 61,207 2013 689,470 57,456 2012 730,446 60,871 2011 725,447 60,454 2010 635,365 52,947 2009 503,583 41,965 2008 816,200 68,017 2007 808,765 67,397 2006 827,970 68,998 2005 772,374 64,365 ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25647 "2018-09-21T20:12:25Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Yes. I don’t see it. In fact, it’s possible they have ended up blaming themselves for their own assaults and / or their failure to not report the event to the police, and will cheerfully decide that little drunken prom queen was even more at fault than they were. I will bet five dollars American that I’m right, to be donated to the Rape Crisis Center or Women’s Health Clinic of your choice, if we can come up with a reasonable criteria for determining who won the bet. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25648 "2018-09-21T20:58:31Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I don’t see it. In fact, it’s possible they have ended up blaming themselves for their own assaults and / or their failure to not report the event to the police, and will cheerfully decide that little drunken prom queen was even more at fault than they were. I will bet five dollars American that I’m right, to be donated to the Rape Crisis Center or Women’s Health Clinic of your choice, if we can come up with a reasonable criteria for determining who won the bet. Eh, I don’t do silly bets like that. And being right on this (or wrong) isn’t that big a deal for me. All I’m saying, and even looking at the women in my own life who have voted for Trump, is that their support for him has eroded, is eroding, and stuff like this will continue to erode it. It’s easy to paint all Trump supporters with a broad brush of “they’re all one-toothed mouth-breathing idiots who drag their knuckles when they galumph across their dirty trailer.” But the reality is that a lot of them are just average people, suburbanites who are often low-information voters, but as more and more shit comes out of Trump’s mouth and Twitter feed, they like him less and less. Or maybe they never liked him, but they also didn’t like Hillary, so they stayed home, and now they’re becoming mobilized against him. This “blue wave” everyone’s talking about, after all, \*isn’t \*happening in a vacuum; it’s happening because of the things the CFSG is saying and doing. Chip, chip, chip… My point is, his support IS eroding, because people (and notably women) are mobilizing against him and Republican candidates in large numbers right now, and becoming enthusiastic about it. Polling in Congressional, gubernatorial and local races shows this to be true. Tweets like today’s hurt the Republican cause more than passive aggressive racist Tweets, because Republicans need women voters more than they need (or can count on) black voters. I feel like Trump would’ve done less damage if he had simply called Dr. Ford a bald-faced liar and a nasty drunk. Then his words would’ve been directed at _her_. Instead the words he tweeted essentially call into question the legitimacy of any sexual assault (or attempted assault) simply because it wasn’t immediately reported by the woman. The CFSG said “if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents.” Really? President Pussy-Grabber is now telling women their traumatic life-changing assault only counts if there’s a fucking police report? Maybe if he says it out loud enough times, it helps him sleep better at night, but it doesn’t make it true for the millions of women who have experienced an assault. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25649 "2018-09-21T21:14:59Z")
We have to fight dirty. We have to stomp the goddamned animals in the fucking throats and call them out for being the party of sexual assault that they are. Republicans are the party of child rape. Republicans are the party of sexual assault. Don’t debate ‘facts’ or ‘truth’ with these insects - they are house flies that infect your picnic food. Animals like John Kasich, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, Jeb Bush, Condi Rice – they had the chance to save their party. THEY FUCKING FAILED!!! Every time they try to contribute to the party’s cause, they are contributing to the authoritarian cause, the American Nazi cause. If they’re too goddamn too fucking thick to figure that out, well I can’t spare them the insults and embarrassment that they richly deserve. They are animals, and they should be flushed down the fucking toilet. THERE IS NO MORE ROOM FOR MODERATION!!! WE DID NOT CREATE THIS CRISIS! THE CRISIS IS UPON IS BY THEIR DESIGN! WE ARE FIGHTING BACK! THEY ARE FUCKING INSECTS! BACTERIA! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25650 "2018-09-21T21:16:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We have to fight dirty. We have to stomp the goddamned animals in the fucking throats and call them out for being the party of sexual assault that they are. > > Republicans are the party of child rape. > > Republicans are the party of sexual assault. > > Don’t debate ‘facts’ or ‘truth’ with these insects - they are house flies that infect your picnic food. > > Animals like John Kasich, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, Jeb Bush, Condi Rice – they had the chance to save their party. THEY FUCKING FAILED!!! > > Every time they try to contribute to the party’s cause, they are contributing to the authoritarian cause, the American Nazi cause. If they’re too goddamn too fucking thick to figure that out, well I can’t spare them the insults and embarrassment that they richly deserve. They are animals, and they should be flushed down the fucking toilet. > > THERE IS NO MORE ROOM FOR MODERATION!!! WE DID NOT CREATE THIS CRISIS! THE CRISIS IS UPON IS BY THEIR DESIGN! WE ARE FIGHTING BACK! THEY ARE FUCKING INSECTS! BACTERIA! So this means you’re gonna start shooting? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25651 "2018-09-21T21:23:30Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > So this means you’re gonna start shooting? No I just think they’re shitheads! Go out and fuckcing vote, people. Or “people” if there are any humans here. For all I know I’m talking to a botnet site. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25652 "2018-09-21T21:23:43Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We have to fight dirty. We have to stomp the goddamned animals in the fucking throats and call them out for being the party of sexual assault that they are. > > … Democrats don’t have to fight dirty. Democrats have to actually fight, for a change. Hey Democrats, let’s try it just this once and see how it works out, ok? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25653 "2018-09-21T21:28:20Z")
I do not advocate actual disorderly conduct or violence - that’s what the right wants. We need to vote - that means everyone, including losers who sat on their fucking asses and never voted before. You have to vote Dem in this election. If you don’t you’re a traitor. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25654 "2018-09-21T21:29:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I do not advocate actual disorderly conduct or violence - that’s what the right wants. > > We need to vote - that means everyone, including losers who sat on their fucking asses and never voted before. You know what? If you’re planning on knocking on doors or phone banking for candidates? Don’t. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25655 "2018-09-21T21:34:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I do not advocate actual disorderly conduct or violence - that’s what the right wants. > > We need to vote - that means everyone, including losers who sat on their fucking asses and never voted before. > > You have to vote Dem in this election. If you don’t you’re a traitor. Dude, you and **Der Trihs** really need to grab a 12 pack and go fishing for an afternoon, maybe listen to some kidz bop. Foaming at the mouth is counterproductive. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25656 "2018-09-21T21:42:03Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Dude, you and **Der Trihs** really need to grab a 12 pack and go fishing for an afternoon, maybe listen to some kidz bop. Foaming at the mouth is counterproductive. Here I was thinking he needs to pull back on the day drinking a skitch. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25657 "2018-09-21T21:47:00Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We have to fight dirty. We have to stomp the goddamned animals in the fucking throats and call them out for being the party of sexual assault that they are. > > Republicans are the party of child rape. > > Republicans are the party of sexual assault. > > Don’t debate ‘facts’ or ‘truth’ with these insects - they are house flies that infect your picnic food. > > Animals like John Kasich, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, Jeb Bush, Condi Rice – they had the chance to save their party. THEY FUCKING FAILED!!! > > Every time they try to contribute to the party’s cause, they are contributing to the authoritarian cause, the American Nazi cause. If they’re too goddamn too fucking thick to figure that out, well I can’t spare them the insults and embarrassment that they richly deserve. They are animals, and they should be flushed down the fucking toilet. > > THERE IS NO MORE ROOM FOR MODERATION!!! WE DID NOT CREATE THIS CRISIS! THE CRISIS IS UPON IS BY THEIR DESIGN! WE ARE FIGHTING BACK! THEY ARE FUCKING INSECTS! BACTERIA! No, they are our family, friends, neighbors, and fellow Americans. Being mis-informed or stupid is not a crime. Fox news is the reason for the current clusterfuck. People have always been mis-informed and the whole 1/2 of people are below average intelligence, is unfortunately true. But in the past, there was never a giant media corporation devoted to making it worse. There\* has\* to be some Russian influence at Fox. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25658 "2018-09-21T21:50:12Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Eh, I don’t do silly bets like that. And being right on this (or wrong) isn’t that big a deal for me. > … Okay then, the center of my choice. I will defer to your greater understanding of Trump voters (because I don’t get them at all), but I don’t get this. > [@asahi](#): > > We have to fight dirty. We have to stomp the goddamned animals in the fucking throats and call them out for being the party of sexual assault that they are. > > Republicans are the party of child rape. > > Republicans are the party of sexual assault. > > Don’t debate ‘facts’ or ‘truth’ with these insects - they are house flies that infect your picnic food. > > Animals like John Kasich, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, Jeb Bush, Condi Rice – they had the chance to save their party. THEY FUCKING FAILED!!! > > Every time they try to contribute to the party’s cause, they are contributing to the authoritarian cause, the American Nazi cause. If they’re too goddamn too fucking thick to figure that out, well I can’t spare them the insults and embarrassment that they richly deserve. They are animals, and they should be flushed down the fucking toilet. > > THERE IS NO MORE ROOM FOR MODERATION!!! WE DID NOT CREATE THIS CRISIS! THE CRISIS IS UPON IS BY THEIR DESIGN! WE ARE FIGHTING BACK! THEY ARE FUCKING INSECTS! BACTERIA! Don’t think you’re going to get me to defend Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25659 "2018-09-21T22:00:43Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > No, they are our family, friends, neighbors, and fellow Americans. Being mis-informed or stupid is not a crime. Fox news is the reason for the current clusterfuck. People have always been mis-informed and the whole 1/2 of people are below average intelligence, is unfortunately true. But in the past, there was never a giant media corporation devoted to making it worse. > > There\* has\* to be some Russian influence at Fox. When the Democrats take over, they need to identify who has voted Republican over the last 15 years and find ways to put them in reeducation camps. They should not be allowed to vote again until they can vote responsibly. Also, they should just send in militias and shut down Fox News and Breitbart once and for all. That’s it. Right wing trolling must be a crime! Jail!!! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25660 "2018-09-21T22:03:25Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Dude, you and **Der Trihs** really need to grab a 12 pack and go fishing for an afternoon, maybe listen to some kidz bop. Foaming at the mouth is counterproductive. Maybe, but sometimes you just can’t help it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25661 "2018-09-21T22:03:49Z")
Oooookay. Step away from the crackpipe, go outside and look at the birdies for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25662 "2018-09-21T22:04:33Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > When the Democrats take over, … First things first: IF the Democrats take over. > [@asahi](#): > > When the Democrats take over, they need to identify who has voted Republican over the last 15 years and find ways to put them in reeducation camps. … 2nd: ORLY? ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25663 "2018-09-21T22:10:11Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Oooookay. > > Step away from the crackpipe, go outside and look at the birdies for awhile. Seems a little more like meth. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25664 "2018-09-21T22:12:59Z")
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