# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1286
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25705 "2018-09-22T01:16:35Z")
> [@simster](#): > > you’ve officially gone off the rails . But this country has gone off the rails. You’re not gonna win with “normal”. Just sayin’ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25706 "2018-09-22T01:23:09Z")
Be honest: you know I’m right. It just makes you feel good about yourself to say “Oh, not all Nazis are bad; I know some good ones and shit.” Let’s be real here: anyone who even TACITLY believes that it’s somehow acceptable for refugee parents to be separated from their children (some of whom are sexually abused) because it’s a ‘deterrent’…are some seriously fucked up fuckers. I’m not the crazy one, folks. What’s crazy is that this country has allowed the normalization of people to challenge some of our most fundamental values, and to suggest that there cannot be consequences for that. I am the one with high moral rectitude; you “people” are not. Trying to find better angels with war criminals is like a rape victim negotiating whether to be finger fucked or fucked with a penis. TAKE A FUCKING LOOK IN THE MIRROR – BASTARDS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25707 "2018-09-22T01:28:16Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > You tell me… > Reading this? Yep. > [@asahi](#): > > Obama got elected twice – and all the while the country became more and more authoritarian. Obama was kinda like our last hope to save the America that kinda, sorta existed before our current iteration. > > This country will have to be remade in some kind of image. It can be remade in the image of Mike Pence and Donald Trump, or something else. You don’t seem to understand that America as we know it is about to become a failed state. We have to offer an alternative, and that means forcing a segment of the population to undergo a rigid militaristic repudiation of their pseudo culture. ok then, I’ll bite… Exactly how rigid, then, **asahi** , should this militaristic repudiation should be? Planned anything out? > [@simster](#): > > you’ve officially gone off the rails . Been a couple decades but hell I could do some. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25708 "2018-09-22T01:28:32Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > NO GOOD REPUBLICANS!!! > > NO GOOD NAZIS!!! “very fine people, on both sides” ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25709 "2018-09-22T01:31:57Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Obama got elected twice – and all the while the country became more and more authoritarian. Obama was kinda like our last hope to save the America that kinda, sorta existed before our current iteration. > > This country will have to be remade in some kind of image. It can be remade in the image of Mike Pence and Donald Trump, or something else. You don’t seem to understand that America as we know it is about to become a failed state. We have to offer an alternative, and that means forcing a segment of the population to undergo a rigid militaristic repudiation of their pseudo culture. Dude. Even though some people seem to enjoy it, no one should be forced to go to High School twice. Can we temper your views a little, just to test things out? Maybe ‘the resistance’ ought to re-think its strategy? Hell, I myself composed the line, “When they go low, we kick 'em in the nuts!” as an alternative to the (failed) approach of ‘going high’. But I didn’t mean it literally. Failure does not repudiate doing the right thing any more than success justifies doing the wrong thing. We need to stick with fundamentals like Habeas Corpus at least and not go locking people up willy-nilly based on political affiliation. How do you even determine that? Voting records? A questionaire? Have people turn in their neighbors? Implementation of your ideas alone is its own nightmare and doomed to self destruction by the unavoidable capriciousness of your draconian, post-3rd Reich suggestions. It is good to hang on to more general virtues too, even if we lose. Basic decency and respect for other people as being basically like ourselves are a good place to start. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25710 "2018-09-22T01:40:51Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Your tune sounds a lot like the one they are singing. No more so than the government of Germany is authoritarian because it banned the Nazi Party. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25711 "2018-09-22T01:41:01Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It just makes you feel good about yourself to say “Oh, not all Nazis are bad; I know some good ones and shit.” Addressing anyone in particular, there? ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25712 "2018-09-22T01:44:21Z")
I’d rather roast all the libertarians out there who are all so comfortable on this tiger ride than Kasich and those other moderate Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25713 "2018-09-22T02:00:33Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > I’d rather roast all the libertarians out there who are all so comfortable on this tiger ride **than Kasich and those other moderate Republicans.** But they should know better. Isn’t that what the #nevertrumpers run on? That there is still a Republican party out there that doesn’t support what Trump does? Well, where the fuck is it? Who the fuck is it? Condi Rice and George W Bush? Aren’t they the reason the fucking tea party started in the first place? Jeff Flake and Bob Corker? Uh, are they coming or going? That’s what you naive little kittens don’t understand. This is just like Weimar Germany, with establishment conservatives believing they could corral the president. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25714 "2018-09-22T02:24:21Z")
It would appear we have discovered the Clothahump anti-particle ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25715 "2018-09-22T02:31:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …you naive little kittens… :dubious: Yeah we get it, but maybe just an eensy weensy teensy less hysterically than you do? ok, **zoid** and **EinsteinsHund** - it’s possible I might be eating some of my words from earlier.😛 (about the funnin’ thing.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25716 "2018-09-22T02:31:55Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > It would appear we have discovered the Clothahump anti-particle Good one. Care to speculate what would happen if we got them to hug each other? Apocalypse? Armageddon? Götterdämmerung? Other big, scary words? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25717 "2018-09-22T02:45:50Z")
Just keep them away from the Large Hadron Collider - all’s good. Otherwise, a major conCERN. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25718 "2018-09-22T02:51:15Z")
Did a post disappear? Bern joke (excellent BTW) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25719 "2018-09-22T03:04:57Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Did a post disappear? Bern joke (excellent BTW) Yes. Thanks, but, I fucked up by goin “aw _bern_” and then realised oops, it’s CERN, and settled with an even more inferior attempt. aside - I think the edit windows should be seven-and-a-half minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25720 "2018-09-22T03:20:58Z")
Asahi, if it’s truly as bad as you currently say it is, start the fucking revolution. Start shooting. Or calm the fuck down. I mean if you honestly think half of the population are Nazis or need to be sent to jail or locked up in “re-education camps,” then an Election Day isn’t gonna fix shit. So either you think we’re at the point of taking up arms and killing our fellow Americans in Revolution II: Twenty-First Century Boogaloo, or you’re just impotently frothing at the fingers like a mad man on a message board and you need to chill out. I swear, every three to eight weeks you go off your nut and start pulling your hair out and typing in all caps. Are you gonna tell us again how you’re the absolute smartest guy here? Regardless, I pray you’re not knocking on doors this fall for any candidates. Frankly, you won’t come off well with the undecideds. Or anyone. Hell, I probably agree with you 75% of the time, and I can’t stand you 90%. Get help or sober up. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25721 "2018-09-22T03:26:33Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Get help or sober up. Why not both\*[?](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/rwby/images/4/45/82733-why-not-both-meme-5LvD.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20160618185223)\* ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25722 "2018-09-22T03:40:46Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Asahi, if it’s truly as bad as you currently say it is, start the fucking revolution. Start shooting. Or calm the fuck down. I mean if you honestly think half of the population are Nazis or need to be sent to jail or locked up in “re-education camps,” then an Election Day isn’t gonna fix shit. Please for the love of God don’t encourage ANYONE to start shooting! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25723 "2018-09-22T04:08:11Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Please for the love of God don’t encourage ANYONE to start shooting! Then what the fuck is he even saying? We shot and killed Nazis in WWII. He now says Republicans \*are \*Nazis. He dehumanizes them. He equates their leaders with Hitler, the man responsible for the death of 6 million Jews. He says Americans need to be imprisoned for their beliefs. He says they should be sent to re-education camps. He’s a short-and-curly away from asking, in all caps no doubt, for someone to rid us of this meddlesome priest. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25724 "2018-09-22T04:14:43Z")
For the record, I don’t support mass incarceration of Republicans. Just the party leadership and all Republican elected officials and judges. Permantly stripping Republican voters of their right to vote shoruld be sufficient to neutralize the rank-and-file. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1285) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1287)