# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1293
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25845 "2018-09-24T18:54:30Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I wonder if there is some special reason the White House decided to do this on Thursday? Hmm. Isn’t there some sort of hearing going on that day? Of course. First the story is that they’re meeting today. That draws attention away from the new Kavanaugh accusations. Then they change the meeting to Thursday, which will draw attention away from Ford’s testimony. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25846 "2018-09-24T19:12:06Z")
The number three man at the DOJ, behind Rosenstein, is Noel Francisco. Francisco worked for the Bush team on the Florida recount. Just prior to his current position at the DOJ, he worked for the law firm of Jones Day, which is the legal representatives of the Trump election campaigns. This means that if Rosenstein goes, Francisco would have to recuse himself on any situation involving the Mueller investigation. Trump would not be happy about that. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25847 "2018-09-24T19:16:06Z")
Would he _have_ to recuse himself, or would he be _required_ to? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25848 "2018-09-24T20:01:50Z")
Is there an actual rule that says he’d have to recuse himself? Or is it just tradition? If the latter, it’s a coin flip at best if he recuses. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25849 "2018-09-24T20:13:35Z")
Trump says he opposes statehood for Puerto Rico as long as the current mayor of San Juan is in office. > **[Puerto Rico governor lashes out at Trump over ‘disrespectful’ statehood comment](https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment/)** > > Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló (D) on Monday criticized President Trump, who said in an interview that he opposes granting the territory statehood while pointing to an “inco… ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25850 "2018-09-24T20:35:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump says he opposes statehood for Puerto Rico as long as the current mayor of San Juan is in office. > [https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment](https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment) Given that statehood would automatically imply two more Democratic senators, I think there is about zero probability that Trump would support statehood regardless of who was in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25851 "2018-09-24T20:51:31Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Given that statehood would automatically imply two more Democratic senators, I think there is about zero probability that Trump would support statehood regardless of who was in charge. Doesn’t matter, because Trump has fuck to say about whether or not PR becomes a State or not - it’s up to Congress. I mean, Trump could veto a statehood vote I guess, but it’s never ever coming up sooo… ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25852 "2018-09-24T21:31:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump says he opposes statehood for Puerto Rico as long as the current mayor of San Juan is in office. > [https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment](https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment) I notice the Republican quoted responding to the thing stops short of actually criticizing Trump, and criticizes Mayor Cruz, instead. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25853 "2018-09-24T22:20:21Z")
They haven’t repaired his golf course yet. What’d ya expect? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25854 "2018-09-24T22:26:40Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > They haven’t repaired his golf course yet. What’d ya expect? And they still haven’t thanked him for the paper towels. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25855 "2018-09-24T22:35:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump says he opposes statehood for Puerto Rico as long as the current mayor of San Juan is in office. > [https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment](https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment) The jerk didn’t even know they’re American and now he wants to be vindictive against the entire territory because he oiesn’t like one person in one city. Come on, trumpers; how can you continue to support this ignorant incompetent bigot? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25856 "2018-09-24T22:46:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Given that statehood would automatically imply two more Democratic senators, I think there is about zero probability that Trump would support statehood regardless of who was in charge. I doubt if Trump thinks that strategically; he probably couldn’t tell you which way Puerto Rico leans, or how many Democratic senators there are currently. He just knows that somebody in PR pissed him off and he wants to punch back. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25857 "2018-09-24T22:56:34Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Before the relocation of the topic occurs, it should be noted that denazification was only made possible by the the Reich falling to military conquest. > > ISTM that deTrumpification may require nothing less. > > Should that come to pass, I can only hope that it comes at the hands of NATO members only. I guess that’s why Trump declared Canada to be a security risk to the USA. It will be interesting to see how things play out when Trump pulls the trigger (to shoot down the Mueller investigation). I doubt if the Republicans will toss Trump over that, but I’m hoping that I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25858 "2018-09-24T23:00:24Z")
That should be “doesn’t”, not “oiesn’t”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25859 "2018-09-24T23:00:49Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I guess that’s why Trump declared Canada to be a security risk to the USA. > > It will be interesting to see how things play out when Trump pulls the trigger (to shoot down the Mueller investigation). I doubt if the Republicans will toss Trump over that, but I’m hoping that I am wrong. Pubbies dump thump if he shuts down Mueller? Never happen. Hell, they’ll probably nominate him for that Nobel prize be so desperately wants. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25860 "2018-09-24T23:44:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There’s more at stake here then just Kavanaugh’s confirmation. If people begin stopping and thinking about what they’re being told, it could lead to a complete collapse of the Republican party. Is it that they are being told, “Whether your teen daughter is being raped by a priest, prospective Alabama Senator or Supreme Court justice is irrelevant, so long as she is forced to carry the resulting child to term, just as God has always intended”? Or did you have something else in mind? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25861 "2018-09-25T00:00:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That should be “doesn’t”, not “oiesn’t”. I kind of like “oiesn’t”. Captures the pigginess of Trump nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25862 "2018-09-25T00:56:36Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump says he opposes statehood for Puerto Rico as long as the current mayor of San Juan is in office. > [https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment](https://thehill.com/latino/408118-puerto-rico-governor-lashes-out-at-trump-over-disrespectful-statehood-comment) > [@Monty](#): > > The jerk didn’t even know they’re American and now he wants to be vindictive against the entire territory because he oiesn’t like one person in one city. Come on, trumpers; how can you continue to support this ignorant incompetent bigot? Well, she _is_ an uppity female. Trumpers are _always_ enthusiastic about seeing them put in their places. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25863 "2018-09-25T01:05:36Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > …Come on, trumpers; how can you continue to support this ignorant incompetent bigot? People do not like to admit they made a mistake. Removing support of a Republican President may make people believe that you support Democratic beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/25864 "2018-09-25T02:38:26Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Removing support of a Republican President may make people believe that you support Democratic beliefs. Yep. That trumper with a M.Ed. I mentioned earlier is firmly convinced I’m 100% liberal. Why? Because I am 100% against Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1292) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1294)