# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/241 "2016-12-20T23:18:44Z")
[In Donald Trump’s Washington, corruption will be utterly shameless](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/12/20/in-donald-trumps-washington-corruption-will-be-utterly-shameless/) > [@](#): > > In ordinary circumstances, an incoming administration is sensitive to political controversies that might distract it or derail its agenda. Once one emerges, everyone is on notice to be careful about keeping the controversy from turning into an outright scandal. You certainly don’t want to repeat the same behavior that drew negative attention in the first place. The only question is how to make the controversy go away as quickly and quietly as possible. > > But that’s not how the Trump clan operates. > > For example, one of the most difficult questions for the incoming administration concerns the president-elect’s apparent intention to use the highest office in the land as a moneymaking venture, leveraging his political power into greater wealth for himself and his family. > > To that end, his new hotel in Washington has been encouraging foreign diplomats to give it their business, which the diplomats clearly understand as a way of currying favor with the president, or at least avoiding his displeasure. As one said in a story that The Post broke a month ago, “Why wouldn’t I stay at his hotel blocks from the White House, so I can tell the new president, ‘I love your new hotel!’ Isn’t it rude to come to his city and say, ‘I am staying at your competitor?'”… Yeah, \*shameless \*is the word. Donald Trump just does (or doesn’t do) whatever the fuck he wants, and we just stand back and look. There’s no one to [bell the cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat). So this is now business as usual. [Under political pressure, Kuwait cancels major event at Four Seasons, switches to Trump’s D.C. hotel _After Election Day, everything changed._](https://thinkprogress.org/under-political-pressure-kuwait-cancels-major-event-at-four-seasons-switches-to-trumps-d-c-1f204315d513#.p2uqd43r1) > [@](#): > > The Embassy of Kuwait allegedly cancelled a contract with a Washington, D.C. hotel days after the presidential election, citing political pressure to hold its National Day celebration at the Trump International Hotel instead. > > A source tells ThinkProgress that the Kuwaiti embassy, which has regularly held the event at the Four Seasons in Georgetown, abruptly canceled its reservation after members of the Trump Organization pressured the ambassador to hold the event at the hotel owned by the president-elect. The source, who has direct knowledge of the arrangements between the hotels and the embassy, spoke to ThinkProgress on the condition of anonymity because the individual was not authorized to speak publicly. ThinkProgress was also able to review documentary evidence confirming the source’s account. > > In the early fall, the Kuwaiti Embassy signed a contract with the Four Seasons. But after the election, members of the Trump Organization contacted the Ambassador of Kuwait, Salem Al-Sabah, and encouraged him to move his event to Trump’s D.C. hotel, the source said… This is probably just one of those “fake news” things, right? Even the Hypocrite-Elect Trump wouldn’t be this blatant about “pay for play,” would he? Wait… yes, he would. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/242 "2016-12-20T23:23:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [In Donald Trump’s Washington, corruption will be utterly shameless](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/12/20/in-donald-trumps-washington-corruption-will-be-utterly-shameless/) > > Yeah, \*shameless \*is the word. Donald Trump just does (or doesn’t do) whatever the fuck he wants, and we just stand back and look. There’s no one to [bell the cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat). So this is now business as usual. > [Under political pressure, Kuwait cancels major event at Four Seasons, switches to Trump’s D.C. hotel > _After Election Day, everything changed._](https://thinkprogress.org/under-political-pressure-kuwait-cancels-major-event-at-four-seasons-switches-to-trumps-d-c-1f204315d513#.p2uqd43r1) > This is probably just one of those “fake news” things, right? Even the Hypocrite-Elect Trump wouldn’t be this blatant about “pay for play,” would he? Wait… yes, he would. Unfortunately, corruption like this will probably be the _least_ of America’s problems during Der Führer’s reign. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/243 "2016-12-21T00:01:47Z")
And Newt Gingrich says that corruption laws shouldn’t apply to the Trump administration because all of his cabinet picks are too rich. And if Congress doesn’t change the laws, Trump should just pardon all of them who run afoul of the laws. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/244 "2016-12-21T03:00:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump wants to name Sylvester Stallone as chair of the National Endowment for the Arts. > > [Donald Trump taps Sylvester Stallone for top 'arts' role  | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4037802/Donald-Trump-taps-Sylvester-Stallone-arts-role.html) > > I guess it’s better than the typical Republican goal of defunding the arts altogether. Stallone said “not interested”. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/245 "2016-12-21T03:08:02Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Trump is not afraid of his creditors, his creditors are afraid of him. And now that he’s president, if he is anything near the despot in making that some people think he is, then his creditors have no fucking hold over him at all. > > The banks that lend money to Trump’s real estate deals do not lend money on faith. Real estate loans are usually secured and based on a pretty solid business plan. I doubt Trump has trouble raising money for a good project and like it or not, Trump’s name on a project adds value. His name represents the lion’s share of his wealth. > [@drad\_dog](#): > > If his name is his wealth then I have real doubts about his liquidity. > > You don’t know what his debt is, who it’s to, how many times he’s been sued, what his tax returns look like, where any of those suits are in progress, what the value of his name is, or what his motives are in what he says and how they are affected by this, how easy or difficult it is for him to borrow money from various sources, how wealthy he is… or anything really. > > What you do know you ignore. > > Given that, are you fighting ignorance or just being a donald mythifier, and apologist? > > It’s really curious tone for someone who voted against him. Well, let me go off in Breitbart-type journalism: Trump owes millions to Russians overseas and the Russian mob is there to enforce collection, if they are not the lenders directly. New York City construction? I’m sure he had interactions on some level. Maybe Trump is afraid of his creditors when it’s the Russian mob and they tell him they’ll be putting bullets in his children’s heads if he doesn’t make good. How does he make good? By getting elected and by being Putin’s bitch and getting the Syrian economic sanctions removed so ExxonMobile and Russia can make billions together. And, as a bonus, appointing anti-global warming deniers to key positions will just open the Arctic to drilling as fast as possible! See! That’s how easy it is to come up with some wackadoole conspiracy theory to explain what the people you disagree with are doing! Connect the dot. Sheeple! (Parody of Trump supporters was intended; purchase of cape does not allow user to fly). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/246 "2016-12-21T05:28:17Z")
[Trump demands 50 ft. tree for his last rally stop. City employee cuts one down in city park.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-official-apologizes-for-chopping-public-park-tree-for-trump-rally-195356978.html) > [@](#): > > An Alabama mayor’s chief of staff has apologized for cutting down a giant tree from a city park in Mobile so it could be used as a backdrop for President-elect Donald Trump’s “thank you” rally at a nearby football stadium. > > Colby Cooper, Mobile Mayor Sandy Stimpson’s top aide, admitted he was “overzealous” in fulfilling a request from Trump’s advance team ahead of Saturday’s event. > > The 50-foot cedar tree was cut down at the city’s Public Safety Memorial Park on Friday and taken to Ladd-Peebles Stadium, placed behind the podium was decorated with Christmas ornaments. > > Cooper, who served as a longtime aide to former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, initially touted the city’s ability to do “the impossible”: Locate and decorate a giant Christmas tree for Trump on short notice. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/247 "2016-12-21T05:54:04Z")
Originally Posted by Damuri Ajashi View Post "Trump is not afraid of his creditors, his creditors are afraid of him. And now that he’s president, if he is anything near the despot in making that some people think he is, then his creditors have no fucking hold over him at all. The banks that lend money to Trump’s real estate deals do not lend money on faith. Real estate loans are usually secured and based on a pretty solid business plan. I doubt Trump has trouble raising money for a good project and like it or not, Trump’s name on a project adds value. His name represents the lion’s share of his wealth." Yes I knew there was something really off here. Thanks Moocher. The idea that trump is not vulnerable to threats of violence (or financial threats for that matter) is part of the same strong man meme we’ve seen, that’s not going to end well. It’s really nervy to come on like someone who voted against him and then spout this childish nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/248 "2016-12-21T13:25:17Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > If his name is his wealth then I have real doubts about his liquidity. His brand is worth more than you or I will ever be. Just because he is not qualified to be president doesn’t mean he isn’t rich or that his brand doesn’t mean anything. > [@](#): > > You don’t know what his debt is, who it’s to, how many times he’s been sued, what his tax returns look like, where any of those suits are in progress, what the value of his name is, or what his motives are in what he says and how they are affected by this, how easy or difficult it is for him to borrow money from various sources, how wealthy he is… or anything really. He hasn’t disclosed his financials to me but any reasonable estimate of his wealth is close to or over a billion dollars. > [@](#): > > What you do know you ignore. What am I ignoring? Or are you another one of those posters who think that if I’m not with you, I’m against you? > [@](#): > > Given that, are you fighting ignorance or just being a donald mythifier, and apologist? In what way am I a Donald apologist. IIRC You are responding to the notion that Donald Trump the POTUS-elect is going to do the bidding of Russia because he might owe money to some Russian banks. Do you seriously think that notion deserves serious consideration or do you think that it is inappropriate for me to point out the dangers of crying wolf and being fucking wrong, again. What are you going to say in 2 or 3 years when it turns out that Trump ISN’T actually a Manchurian candidate in thrall to Putin? The Liberal hyperventilation just makes it easier to dismiss any actual concerns we might have about Trump. > [@](#): > > It’s really curious tone for someone who voted against him. That’s because I have more loyalty to my country and the truth than partisan politics. Do I think Trump will be a good President? Nope. Do I think that he is going to hand our country over to Russia because some Russian banks lent him some money (do we know this for a fact?). Nope. And I think that anyone that pushes this line of thinking is an idiot who will do more harm to the efforts to defeat Trump in 2020 than Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley did to racial justice issues. If we hurl baseless allegation after baseless allegation at him for the next four years, then we simply lose credibility. Sure it fires up the left wing idiots but we don’t have as many idiots as the other side and we will lose if it becomes a battle of the idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/249 "2016-12-21T13:32:27Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It’s already been well documented that American banks are no longer willing (source: Wall Street Journal) to loan money to Donald Trump due to his pattern of strategically not paying his bills or repaying his debts when he thinks he can get away with it. And yet he’s managed to nearly double his debt load (source: Bloomberg) over the past year by borrowing a flurry of funds from overseas investors. I thought those were links but they’re not. I know for a fact that some of his projects are financed by Chinese banks. Is he going to be in thrall to China as well because his rhetoric about trade deals and his conversation with Taiwan makes me think he is not THEIR puppet. Why would he be Russia’s puppet? So do you have any actual cites or just vague memories of Trump being unable to borrow domestically? Because I’m pretty sure that a significant portion of the financing for his development projects are from domestic sources. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/250 "2016-12-21T13:38:07Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Man, those were great days, huh? When we though Bush was the bottom of the barrel? Baby Bush started the fucking war in Iraq that we are still fighting 15 fucking years later. A war that escalated the middle east conflict to global dimensions. Its hard to imagine Donald Trump fucking up as badly without Dick Cheney and the neo-cons telling him what to do. AFAICT, there aren’t any PNAC folks in his cabinet. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/251 "2016-12-21T13:44:19Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Originally Posted by Damuri Ajashi View Post > "Trump is not afraid of his creditors, his creditors are afraid of him. And now that he’s president, if he is anything near the despot in making that some people think he is, then his creditors have no fucking hold over him at all. > > The banks that lend money to Trump’s real estate deals do not lend money on faith. Real estate loans are usually secured and based on a pretty solid business plan. I doubt Trump has trouble raising money for a good project and like it or not, Trump’s name on a project adds value. His name represents the lion’s share of his wealth." > > Yes I knew there was something really off here. Thanks Moocher. > > The idea that trump is not vulnerable to threats of violence (or financial threats for that matter) is part of the same strong man meme we’ve seen, that’s not going to end well. It’s really nervy to come on like someone who voted against him and then spout this childish nonsense. Are you fucking seriously entertaining the notion that POTUS can be blackmailed with threats of force against his family? By the Russian mob??? Are you fucking kidding me? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post retarded shit like this? If the Russian mob could do this to Trump as Potus, wtf was keeping them from blackmailing Obama or the Clintons? Stop being retarded, it undermines all liberals everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/252 "2016-12-21T14:10:24Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Are you fucking seriously entertaining the notion that POTUS can be blackmailed with threats of force against his family? By the Russian mob??? It’s more credible than thinking Russia could hit back at him by confiscating his _Russian_ assets. Does he even _have_ any Russian assets? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/253 "2016-12-21T16:00:59Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > What are you going to say in 2 or 3 years when it turns out that Trump ISN’T actually a Manchurian candidate in thrall to Putin? What are you going to say when it turns out he is? > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Are you fucking seriously entertaining the notion that POTUS can be blackmailed with threats of force against his family? By the Russian mob??? Are you fucking kidding me? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post retarded shit like this? > > If the Russian mob could do this to Trump as Potus, wtf was keeping them from blackmailing Obama or the Clintons? > > Stop being retarded, it undermines all liberals everywhere. Whoosh! Satire may be hard to recognize for the Trump supporter. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/254 "2016-12-21T17:35:44Z")
Originally Posted by Damuri Ajashi “Trump is not afraid of his creditors, his creditors are afraid of him. And now that he’s president, if he is anything near the despot in making that some people think he is, then his creditors have no fucking hold over him at all.” Who’s being “retarded”? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/255 "2016-12-21T20:56:45Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > What are you going to say when it turns out he is? Same shit I would say if it turns out that Obama was actually a secret muslim born in Kenya. > [@](#): > > Whoosh! Satire may be hard to recognize for the Trump supporter. :rolleyes: Or perhaps its getting hard to distinguish from the retarded satire being peddled by liberals who are eager to die on every fucking hill from their actual opinions. Drad seems to have taken you at your word. That’s why I responded to him and not to you. drad is retarded but you seem really eager to join him. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/256 "2016-12-21T20:58:42Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Originally Posted by Damuri Ajashi > “Trump is not afraid of his creditors, his creditors are afraid of him. And now that he’s president, if he is anything near the despot in making that some people think he is, then his creditors have no fucking hold over him at all.” > > Who’s being “retarded”? In this thread? I think its pretty clear that its you. fucking Russian mob fer chrissake.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/257 "2016-12-21T22:06:53Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > In this thread? I think its pretty clear that its you. > > fucking Russian mob fer chrissake.:rolleyes: well ouch ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/258 "2016-12-22T13:21:55Z")
> **[Tacoma Cheesecake Factory apologizes for turning away armed law enforcement...](https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article122267984.html)** > > A misunderstanding that barred six state Department of Corrections officers Tuesday from having lunch at the new Cheesecake Factory in Tacoma has been resolved. I disagree with the folks who think this guy should get fired. He was told that there was a strict no gun policy by the corporate office. People say that he should have used common sense but if he is a hoplophobe with no exposure to guns then he has no frame of reference to say what makes sense and what doesn’t in the context of guns. Reason and rationality is not something you can just naturally expect from a hoplophobe and to take away his livelihood because of his condition could be a violation of the ADA. Take him to the range and show him that guns are not like vials of anthrax made of nitroglycerin. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/259 "2016-12-22T14:13:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article122267984.html](http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article122267984.html) > > I disagree with the folks who think this guy should get fired. He was told that there was a strict no gun policy by the corporate office. People say that he should have used common sense but if he is a hoplophobe with no exposure to guns then he has no frame of reference to say what makes sense and what doesn’t in the context of guns. Reason and rationality is not something you can just naturally expect from a hoplophobe and to take away his livelihood because of his condition could be a violation of the ADA. Take him to the range and show him that guns are not like vials of anthrax made of nitroglycerin. Wrong thread, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/260 "2016-12-22T14:23:42Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Wrong thread, perhaps? No, no, some shift manager misunderstood corporate policy at a big company. This may not be directly related to the Trump admin, but _it deserves to be noticed!_ We need to be aware that police and hoplophiles are constantly persecuted, and every time some random schmo doesn’t genuflect to the Warriors, that _has to be posted everywhere!_ I mean. you might think this was some guy, probably a young person, who just didn’t understand corporate policy. But, this is an affront to the second amendment. See! The Gun People are being repressed!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=14)