# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26085 "2018-09-30T21:25:19Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> A rapist who wants to abolish _Roe v. Wade_. Kavanaugh has all sorts of sick problems.

What’s the point of not allowing someone to terminate a pregnancy conceived in rape if the rapist doesn’t get parental rights?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26086 "2018-09-30T22:08:17Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You win. From now on it’s “Jesus Herbert Walker Christ.”

Ah, victory. I will say more, but I don’t want to descend from the mountain just yet.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26087 "2018-09-30T22:11:41Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Great! I wish them every happiness as they wander hand-in-hand into the sunset, and _leave the rest of the world alone!_

You know what Kim does to beloved relatives, right?  
They may go hand in hand to the sunset, but only one might come back.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26088 "2018-09-30T22:12:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Stands for “Tiberius”.

…I understood that reference.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26089 "2018-09-30T22:14:36Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Imagine what they (you know, they) would have said if Obama had said that.

I imagine some combination of words including the terms “disgrace”, “treason”, “impeach” and, perhaps, “ass-licker”.

Do I win?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26090 "2018-09-30T22:16:22Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> What do you think the “H” stands for?

Hallowed. It says so in the song.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26091 "2018-09-30T22:17:10Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> A rapist who wants to abolish _Roe v. Wade_. Kavanaugh has all sorts of sick problems.

If it is truly unconstitutional as judged by the Supreme Court, I expect that to be adjudicated by honest people, of which Kavanaugh does not seem to be the paragon.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26092 "2018-09-30T23:31:46Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> What do you think the “H” stands for?

Haploid. I thought everyone knew that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26093 "2018-09-30T23:39:57Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Hussein. Not many people know this, but he was a secret Muslim.

😃

> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I understood that reference.

Me, too.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Hallowed. It says so in the song.

Good point.

> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Ah, victory. I will say more, but I don’t want to descend from the mountain just yet.

Enjoy the rarefied air. 🙂

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26094 "2018-10-01T00:48:34Z")

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I’m pretty sure it’s, “Honda” as the 12 disciples were in one Accord.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26095 "2018-10-01T01:22:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Think the Colorado baker will do \*that \*cake?

Wins the thread!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26096 "2018-10-01T01:53:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No. We started out as a sort of plutoligarchy, and that system has been in place with varying degrees of egalitaste for close on to a quarter millennium…

That may be slightly misleading.

[QUOTE=[U.S. Income Inequality: It's Worse Today Than It Was in 1774 - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/us-income-inequality-its-worse-today-than-it-was-in-1774/262537/)]

… on the eve of the Revolutionary War, wealth was distributed more evenly across the 13 colonies than anywhere else in the world that we have record of.  
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This was partly due to U.S. having lower average income — there was less room for inequality. I think the U.S. continued to have a lower GINI than Britain during most of the 19th century … even with slaves included. (Britain and Holland had the highest per capita incomes on the planet during most of the 18th and 19th centuries.)

Income inequality over the centuries is an interesting topic. Someone should start an an IMHO thread on the topic.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26097 "2018-10-01T02:38:32Z")

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Conservatives suck.

Force them to become educated.

#educationcamps

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26098 "2018-10-01T02:55:13Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> What’s the point of not allowing someone to terminate a pregnancy conceived in rape if the rapist doesn’t get parental rights?

That’s the way it is _now_. But, of course those poor hoodwinked upper crust blokes who are “tricked” into “a few minutes of action” which _currently_ will “ruin their lives” will want to have the law changed so those “hussies”/“sluts”/“gold diggers”/“vixens” will lose their right to raise the child forced on them because said “vixens” (et al) are obviously immoral. And if the biological mother happens to be white, then, yeah, the upper crust bloke will then have no qualms with raising the child “as his own”.

Think I’m kidding? I didn’t pull any of those terms in quotation marks out of thin air.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26099 "2018-10-01T03:02:17Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Archie fucking Bunker. But, without the warmth and charm.

The difference is, for all his faults and wrong ideas, Archie was not mean or evil. He as just wrong. And he could (and did) learn.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26100 "2018-10-01T03:21:02Z")

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Here’s an excerpt from [Michael Lewis’ new book, about the Trump transition team.](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/27/this-guy-doesnt-know-anything-the-inside-story-of-trumps-shambolic-transition-team)

Pretty depressing reading. Taking Lewis’ assertions as factually correct for the moment, what I found interesting is that Trump never fires anyone face to face. It’s always an intermediary.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26101 "2018-10-01T03:32:08Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump: “Kim Jon Un and I fell in love.”  
> [https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/409104-trump-kim-jong-un-and-i-fell-in-love](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/409104-trump-kim-jong-un-and-i-fell-in-love)

Here is what I posted under my nickname Chip in the comments section of Yahoo!'s article on that:

> [@](#):
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> Wow. You moron far right spent years accusing Obama of being a foreigner, anti-American, a dictator wannabe, and under the influence of foreign governments. Not a one of those accusations is true, yet Trump is so clearly under foreign influence that he admits to wanting to be a dictator and you cheer him on. Now he comes out with this completely unhinged and bizarre statement about being in love with North Korea’s dictator.Your response? Crickets chirping. Trump is a traitor and so are you if you still support him.

So far, I’ve gotten no responses except one snowflake trumpist gave me a thumbs down.

Actually, there have been some rather lame attempts to justify Trump’s remark in the comments section there. My favorite is “Something was lost in translation”. Huh? The orange blight was speaking to Americans.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26102 "2018-10-01T03:36:17Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Here is what I posted under my nickname Chip in the comments section of Yahoo!'s article on that:
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> So far, I’ve gotten no responses except one snowflake trumpist gave me a thumbs down.
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> Actually, there have been some rather lame attempts to justify Trump’s remark in the comments section there. My favorite is “Something was lost in translation”. Huh? The orange blight was speaking to Americans.

Yeah, but he doesn’t speak English.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26103 "2018-10-01T03:57:31Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Archie fucking Bunker. But, without the warmth and charm.

Carroll O’Connor, or was it Norman Lear, was stunned that people thought Bunker was a hero at the beginning of the series. Bunker was anti-Roman Catholic and anti-Irish. Carroll O’Connor was Irish Catholic.

> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> Here’s an excerpt from [Michael Lewis’ new book, about the Trump transition team.](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/27/this-guy-doesnt-know-anything-the-inside-story-of-trumps-shambolic-transition-team)
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> Pretty depressing reading. Taking Lewis’ assertions as factually correct for the moment, what I found interesting is that Trump never fires anyone face to face. It’s always an intermediary.

Check out [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21238035&postcount=26029). It’s not surprising at all if you know even a little about trump. For him to fire someone requires that person to have done something to require firing. And that means that trump made a mistake in hiring that person in the first place. You can get that vibe from his twitting on twitter about those who’ve already been let go from “his team” in government.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26104 "2018-10-01T04:01:00Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> Here’s an excerpt from [Michael Lewis’ new book, about the Trump transition team.](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/27/this-guy-doesnt-know-anything-the-inside-story-of-trumps-shambolic-transition-team)
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> Pretty depressing reading.

Thanks for the very depressing read! 😛

A year ago I developed (for my own blog) a list with dozens of depressing or frightening Trump stories. I gave up growing the list. There were too many to choose from; and it was all too depressing.

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