# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1318
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26345 "2018-10-09T18:48:42Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You mean Lindsey Graham? Because Jefferson Beauregard Sessions IS the AG… Whoops. Yeah. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26346 "2018-10-09T19:59:41Z")
Wait. His name really is Jefferson Beauregard? That’s not some elitist Dogpatch joke? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26347 "2018-10-09T20:02:27Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait. His name really is Jefferson Beauregard? That’s not some elitist Dogpatch joke? Jefferson Beauregard Sessions **III** no less. I’m waiting for him to arrive to a hearing wearing a white linen suit and demanding to be addressed as Colonel. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26348 "2018-10-09T20:25:24Z")
But, as I recall, he was not the senator from SC. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26349 "2018-10-09T20:50:44Z")
Graham said mean things about Trump during the primaries. He has no chance of becoming AG. He might be paraded in front of the cameras like Romney only to be humiliated, like Romney. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26350 "2018-10-09T21:33:59Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait. His name really is Jefferson Beauregard? That’s not some elitist Dogpatch joke? Per Wiki: “He was named after his father, who was named after his grandfather, who was named after Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederate States of America, and P. G. T. Beauregard, the Confederate general who oversaw the bombardment of Fort Sumter, starting the American Civil War.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26351 "2018-10-09T23:02:43Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I did what I was supposed, the way it ought to be done. That guy there blew through a red at over 40. My car is totaled; his truck had a massive brush guard on it, so his damage was minimal. > > I am tired of being the “better” person and getting fucked over by assholes who think I am a wimp for not being an asshole. > > What should I do? Pursue a losing strategy because it makes me feel better? Losing clean is not an improvement over losing ugly, in the end. Why do you care what an asshole’s opinion is of you? Last I checked, the only things coming out of assholes were crap and farts. Yes, losing clean is an improvement. > [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Jefferson Beauregard Sessions **III** no less. I’m waiting for him to arrive to a hearing wearing a white linen suit and demanding to be addressed as Colonel. Maybe the First Lady will lend him her colonial helmet. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26352 "2018-10-10T01:02:07Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Graham said mean things about Trump during the primaries. He has no chance of becoming AG. He might be paraded in front of the cameras like Romney only to be humiliated, like Romney. I don’t know which prospect I would enjoy more: getting rid of Lindsey from the Senate\* or having Lindsey realize with dawning horror that he threw away his over-hyped reputation for nothing. \*I know SC isn’t going purple yet, but I’m sick of Lindsey. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26353 "2018-10-10T01:19:59Z")
Some of us refer to him as Jefferson Butterbeans Sessions III. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26354 "2018-10-10T20:04:03Z")
Why, WHY does the news allow a proven liar to say whatever the hell he wants in their newspaper or on television, without pointing out all the lies? Printing something you know is false is not journalism! I’m talking, of course, about [D2S’s op-ed in USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/10/donald-trump-democrats-open-borders-medicare-all-single-payer-column/1560533002), which boils down to “no healthcare for everyone! Democrats suck! Socialism bad! Support giant insurance companies!” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26355 "2018-10-10T20:08:48Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > Why, WHY does the news allow a proven liar to say whatever the hell he wants in their newspaper or on television, without pointing out all the lies? Printing something you know is false is not journalism! > > I’m talking, of course, about [D2S’s op-ed in USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/10/donald-trump-democrats-open-borders-medicare-all-single-payer-column/1560533002), which boils down to “no healthcare for everyone! Democrats suck! Socialism bad! Support giant insurance companies!” He touts his healthcare plan that’s “working.” I must have missed it. Did he get a Healthcare plan passed? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26356 "2018-10-10T20:31:38Z")
Michael Lewis traces the ‘gutting of the civil service’ under Trump [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3RMvDwBiIU8/maxresdefault.jpg "Michael Lewis traces the ‘gutting of the civil service’ under Trump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RMvDwBiIU8&t=10) > [@](#): > > Bestselling author Michael Lewis says the idea that civil servants are “lazy or stupid or dead weight on the society is…the most sinister idea alive in this country right now." In his new book, “The Fifth Risk,” Lewis examines how the Trump administration has been staffing the federal government, and its “ignorance of the mission.” Lewis sits down with William Brangham for a conversation. The author mentions the case where Trump was going to replace the chief USDA scientist, an actual scientist who is in charge of billions for research, with a talk-radio host who supported Trump’s campaign. The talk show host later withdrew, but it illustrates Trump’s desire for loyalists and supporters instead of actual qualified, competent people. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26357 "2018-10-10T20:33:13Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > Why, WHY does the news allow a proven liar to say whatever the hell he wants in their newspaper or on television, without pointing out all the lies? Printing something you know is false is not journalism! > > I’m talking, of course, about [D2S’s op-ed in USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/10/donald-trump-democrats-open-borders-medicare-all-single-payer-column/1560533002), which boils down to “no healthcare for everyone! Democrats suck! Socialism bad! Support giant insurance companies!” > [@Procrustus](#): > > He touts his healthcare plan that’s “working.” I must have missed it. Did he get a Healthcare plan passed? No he didn’t. That’s the LYING part. I think the news media should print an op-ed from (although not BY) the president and then right next to it print an editorial that calls out every single lie, and calls them LIES. I’ve objected all along to euphemisms like falsehood, mistake, misquote, misspoke, fabrication, deception, evasion, distortion, fiction, mendacity (although I DO love that word), inaccuracy, etc. He LIES. And when he lies, the media should say, “THAT WAS A LIE.” It’s a simple, no frills word that doesn’t need any embellishment. ETA: From another thread > [@How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4612): > > > [@How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4612): > > > > Trump “wrote” (as in, somebody wrote it for him and he put his name on it) an op-ed for USA Today talking about how Medicare for all is just an attempt to take health care away from people. This article debunks his claims. > > [Trump writes laughably false op-ed about Medicare for All – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/all-the-presidents-lies-about-medicare-for-all-52a141a12d1b/) > > > [@How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4613): > > > > The [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/10/fact-checking-president-trumps-usa-today-op-ed-medicare-for-all/?utm_term=.fec7a1d3cf49) also fact-checked the claims in Trump’s op-ed. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26358 "2018-10-10T20:53:48Z")
[South Korea Considers Lifting Sanctions Against North Korea](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/10/world/asia/south-korea-sanctions-north-korea.html); [Liar McCheetoface thinks he has final say](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/the-latest-south-korea-considers-lifting-sanctions-on-north/2018/10/10/20c17386-cc54-11e8-ad0a-0e01efba3cc1_story.html?utm_term=.dfc9b6eae846). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26359 "2018-10-10T20:54:01Z")
It just occurs to me: what if we get rolling on a movement to rebrand the party. _You, sir, are no longer a “Republican”, you are a Trump_. Every person with a R after their name is a Trump Party candidate. What kind of effect would that have? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26360 "2018-10-10T21:18:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > No he didn’t. That’s the LYING part. > > I think the news media should print an op-ed from (although not BY) the president and then right next to it print an editorial that calls out every single lie, and calls them LIES. I’ve objected all along to euphemisms like falsehood, mistake, misquote, misspoke, fabrication, deception, evasion, distortion, fiction, mendacity (although I DO love that word), inaccuracy, etc. > > He LIES. And when he lies, the media should say, “THAT WAS A LIE.” It’s a simple, no frills word that doesn’t need any embellishment. > > ETA: From another thread The Washington Post fact checker agrees [and states](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/10/fact-checking-president-trumps-usa-today-op-ed-medicare-for-all/?utm_term=.7df319647a5f): “President Trump wrote an opinion article for USA Today on Oct. 10 regarding proposals to expand Medicare to all Americans — known as Medicare-for-All — in which almost every sentence contained a misleading statement or a falsehood.” ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26361 "2018-10-10T21:28:26Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > There are numerous possible reasons why she might be leaving. We should at least wait until the Trump administration announces theirs, so we can rule that one out. I’ve also seen early speculation she is thinking she might run for Pres 2-6 years from now. And, if Trump/Pence do get impeached or meaningfully tarnished, if Rs come to see anyone closely affiliated with this clusterfuck as stained, she might be a valid option for the Rs. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26362 "2018-10-10T21:55:54Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The Washington Post fact checker agrees [and states](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/10/fact-checking-president-trumps-usa-today-op-ed-medicare-for-all/?utm_term=.7df319647a5f): “President Trump wrote an opinion article for USA Today on Oct. 10 regarding proposals to expand Medicare to all Americans — known as Medicare-for-All — in which almost every sentence contained a misleading statement or a falsehood.” IMHO that should read, “…in which almost every sentence contained a LIE.” What is up with this “falsehood” bullshit? Otherwise, okay. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26363 "2018-10-10T22:07:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > IMHO that should read, “…in which almost every sentence contained a LIE.” > > What is up with this “falsehood” bullshit? > > Otherwise, okay. They’re afraid of being sued and looking partisan. Cowards. They ARE lies. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26364 "2018-10-10T22:17:06Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Jefferson Beauregard Sessions **III** no less. I’m waiting for him to arrive to a hearing wearing a white linen suit and demanding to be addressed as Colonel. and talking like Foghorn Leghorn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1317) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1319)