# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26425 "2018-10-12T19:21:28Z")

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Mnuchin is also right on board with attending Saudi Arabia’s big Throw Your Money At Us Investors Event, or whatever the fuck it’s called. They’re good partners, he says - he just wants information, don’t you know, so let’s wait to see what happens. Fuckhead, they have audio and video of Khashoggi being killed - they chopped up his body to dispose of him. Are you waiting for the fucking BlueRay or something? What more info do you need to not reward them while you wait.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26426 "2018-10-12T19:53:25Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Steve Mnuchin says the deficit has nothing to do with Trump’s tax cuts, it’s all the Democrats’ fault.  
> [https://secondnexus.com/news/steve-mnuchin-deficit-democrats/amp/?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://secondnexus.com/news/steve-mnuchin-deficit-democrats/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

So, military spending is an investment but spending on health and education isn’t? Okkkaaayyy

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26427 "2018-10-12T19:53:50Z")

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After the (alleged) assassination of a journalist by a Saudi hit squad, Failing Donnie had this response:

> [@Failing Donnie](#):
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> You see, this is what happens when the fake media says things against the government. You get killed. I don’t know if it could happen here. I don’t know. But it _could_ happen. The fake media should be very careful about what they say.

Well anyway, I’m sure he _thought_ it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26428 "2018-10-12T19:55:11Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I gather the defeat of Trump come not from opposition (which he loves, as it means people are paying attention to him) but indifference.
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> Do not feed the president.

nice South Park reference 😃

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26429 "2018-10-12T19:56:50Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> After the (alleged) assassination of a journalist by a Saudi hit squad, Failing Donnie had this response:  
> Well anyway, I’m sure he _thought_ it.

He’s justifying a murder and threatening more. Nice.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26430 "2018-10-12T20:03:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> …the AP adds in quite a few qualifiers when reporting things that Trump said. “he claimed without offering any evidence” or “he said even tho everyone on the planet says differently” or some other qualifier. Their reporting has gotten more focused and included more qualifiers in the past 2 years; …

Qualifiers don’t cut it, if the lie spreads and the "qualifier doesn’t. They need to just come out and say **HE LIED**. Or stop publishing his damn lies to begin with, when they KNOW they are lies.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26431 "2018-10-12T20:05:54Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> He’s justifying a murder and threatening more. Nice.

You know I made that up, right? 😉

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26432 "2018-10-12T20:06:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> After John Bolton? Yosemite Sam?

Sam would be a step up, and probably a lot more sane than Bolton.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26433 "2018-10-12T20:11:04Z")

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> [@catflea12](#):
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> I am personally hoping the IRS and **the state** of New York take every cent the trump family owns, along with all their property, for taxes and penalties.

Hell yes. AND make sure

1. It’s at the STATE level where pardons don’t work
2. They make sure Kavanaugh can’t pull his “presidents (but only Trump) can’t be investigated or indicted” bullshit. Or use that “Gamble vs USA” dual sovereignty case that is coming up.
3. They go after and wipe out the ENTIRE family, so none of them can avoid it by hiding it in someone else’s name or shell company.
4. If they find a way to include time in prison, even better.

If it is NOT in the hands of the IRS, FBI or DoJ, Trump and his cronies have fewer chances of interfering and obstructing.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26434 "2018-10-12T20:13:55Z")

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26435 "2018-10-12T21:08:13Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Qualifiers don’t cut it, if the lie spreads and the "qualifier doesn’t. They need to just come out and say **HE LIED**. Or stop publishing his damn lies to begin with, when they KNOW they are lies.

Perhaps not even quote him directly. “Today, (Shitgibbon) said some stuff about trade. It was a rambling tirade of which we have yet to be able to untangle the digressions and contradictions. Suffice it to say, it made little sense.”

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26436 "2018-10-12T21:47:12Z")

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I’ve been saying for a long time that the media should stop breathlessly reporting every little outburst from his twitterthumbs and just say something like “President Trump tweeted some more stupid shit this morning.” If you want to know exactly what he said, you can go look it up.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26437 "2018-10-12T21:49:27Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Perhaps not even quote him directly. “Today, (Shitgibbon) said some stuff about trade. It was a rambling tirade of which we have yet to be able to untangle the digressions and contradictions. Suffice it to say, it made little sense.”

Or how about: “Thump made some statements today about some stuff. Our staff is going over them and if any of it turns out to be true, we will report it.”

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26438 "2018-10-12T23:32:04Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> You know I made that up, right? 😉

I don’t believe you.

😉

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26439 "2018-10-12T23:54:00Z")

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What’s the SDMB record for most views and most pages/responses to a thread? I’ve “only” been here ten years and I cannot recall one as long as this one. It’s gotta be a contender.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26440 "2018-10-13T00:18:30Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> What’s the SDMB record for most views and most pages/responses to a thread? I’ve “only” been here ten years and I cannot recall one as long as this one. It’s gotta be a contender.

[This one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831) is closing in on 400 pages (@ 100posts/pg), but it is about 5 times older. Threads about stupidity seem to be rather popular on a board that is about fighting ignance.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26441 "2018-10-13T01:14:23Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [This one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831) is closing in on 400 pages (@ 100posts/pg), but it is about 5 times older. Threads about stupidity seem to be rather popular on a board that is about fighting ignance.

If we had a thread to fight misspelling, it would probably be longer. 😉

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26442 "2018-10-13T01:48:53Z")

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President Trump says “Robert E. Lee was a great general” during Ohio rally, calling the Confederate leader “incredible.”

[https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-gives-civil-war-lesson-at-ohio-rally-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general-abraham-lincoln-developed-a-phobia/](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-gives-civil-war-lesson-at-ohio-rally-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general-abraham-lincoln-developed-a-phobia/)

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26443 "2018-10-13T01:54:17Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> President Trump says “Robert E. Lee was a great general” during Ohio rally, calling the Confederate leader “incredible.”
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> [Abraham Lincoln | Mediaite](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-gives-civil-war-lesson-at-ohio-rally-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general-abraham-lincoln-developed-a-phobia/)

So he likes losers now?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26444 "2018-10-13T01:57:24Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> President Trump says “Robert E. Lee was a great general” during Ohio rally, calling the Confederate leader “incredible.”
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> [Abraham Lincoln | Mediaite](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-gives-civil-war-lesson-at-ohio-rally-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general-abraham-lincoln-developed-a-phobia/)

Crow: And the crowd goes wild.

Joel, Servo, Crow: Yay.

Now the orangeministration is just testing audiences on history.

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