# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26465 "2018-10-13T17:45:31Z")

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Wasn’t Custer last in his class at West Point?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26466 "2018-10-13T20:12:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Wasn’t Custer last in his class at West Point?

[Yes](http://www.historynet.com/west-points-worst-cadet-george-armstrong-custer.htm).

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> Custer was one of the worst cadets in the history of the U.S. Military Academy. He managed to graduate on June 24, 1861, but unlike most of the fledgling second lieutenants eager to receive their first assignments, Custer had to remain behind. He was under arrest.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26467 "2018-10-14T17:05:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Wasn’t Custer last in his class at West Point?

If we can indulge some Minutmen lyrics here 😛

[I believe when they found the body of General George A. Custer  
Quilled like a porcupine with Indian arrows  
He didn’t die with any honor, any dignity, or any valor

I believe when they found George A. Custer  
An American general, patriot, and Indian-fighter  
He died with shit in his pants!]([https://youtu.be/1utNM4SaO7Y?t=21](https://youtu.be/1utNM4SaO7Y?t=21))

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26468 "2018-10-14T17:32:24Z")

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[Custer’s Last View](https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=custers+last+view+gary+larson&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fb5%2F5b%2F6e%2Fb55b6e23cb22c6c5ca1a4c7d3ee746d7.jpg#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fb5%2F5b%2F6e%2Fb55b6e23cb22c6c5ca1a4c7d3ee746d7.jpg&action=click) ~ Link to Gary Larson comic.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26469 "2018-10-14T18:18:40Z")

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Old joke:

An art patron commissions a portrait of Custer. The artist, no fan of George Armstrong, turns in a painting of a golden calf, surrounded by a group of fornicating Native Americans.

When the patron complained, the artist explained it was a depiction of Custer’s last thought: “Holy cow! Look at all those fucking Indians!”

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26470 "2018-10-14T18:26:27Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> President Trump says “Robert E. Lee was a great general” during Ohio rally, calling the Confederate leader “incredible.”
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> [Abraham Lincoln | Mediaite](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-gives-civil-war-lesson-at-ohio-rally-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general-abraham-lincoln-developed-a-phobia/)

Now he’s claiming that

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> NBC News has totally and purposely changed the point and meaning of my story about General Robert E Lee and General Ulysses Grant. Was actually a shoutout to warrior Grant and the great state in which he was born. As usual, dishonest reporting. Even mainstream media embarrassed!

[linky](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1051471737068670977?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26471 "2018-10-14T18:29:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I certainly don’t want the cretin’s child to be the new ambassador; however, I dearly want the cretin to officially nominate her for that position. Not even Trump’s second most ardent supporter\* would roll over and play dead for that stunt. I’m hoping that, at long last, that would be something that’ll get him chased out of office.
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> \*You know full well he, himself, is his most ardent supporter.

I think you’re underestimating how much his followers esteem him. Why wouldn’t they think the fruit of the Holy One’s loins wouldn’t be a great ambassador to the UN?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26472 "2018-10-14T18:36:26Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Now he’s claiming that
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> [linky](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1051471737068670977?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

“They reported what I said, and that makes me look bad! So unfair!”

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26473 "2018-10-14T19:41:20Z")

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Can we stop pretending that the White House visitors and other hangers on to this abomination of an administration who happen to flash an OK sign are not doing it in solidarity with white nationalists? Notice the sign that nearly [every single one of them is flashing](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6273189/Three-Proud-Boys-arrested-fighting-protesters-outside-Far-Right-rally-New-York.html) in this picture (fifth down) before they started a fight the other night in New York.

They aren’t saying, “OK”, they’re saying we are racists who are emboldened by an overtly racist regime. And so are the [all the other ones](https://medium.com/s/story/does-the-ok-sign-actually-signify-white-power-or-what-6cf3309df985) who have done it and pretended it was just a coincidence.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26474 "2018-10-14T20:29:11Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Can we stop pretending that the White House visitors and other hangers on to this abomination of an administration who happen to flash an OK sign are not doing it in solidarity with white nationalists? Notice the sign that nearly [every single one of them is flashing](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6273189/Three-Proud-Boys-arrested-fighting-protesters-outside-Far-Right-rally-New-York.html) in this picture (fifth down) before they started a fight the other night in New York.
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> They aren’t saying, “OK”, they’re saying we are racists who are emboldened by an overtly racist regime. And so are the [all the other ones](https://medium.com/s/story/does-the-ok-sign-actually-signify-white-power-or-what-6cf3309df985) who have done it and pretended it was just a coincidence.

Thanks for that second article. That was a good background on the use of the OK gesture by white supremacists. I still occasionally use it in its original meaning, but I’ve been trying to remember to use the thumbs up instead.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26475 "2018-10-14T21:52:35Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> “They reported what I said, and that makes me look bad! So unfair!”

The cure for that is to keep your mouth shut and your phone in another room. As if.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26476 "2018-10-14T23:26:48Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Thanks for that second article. That was a good background on the use of the OK gesture by white supremacists. I still occasionally use it in its original meaning, but I’ve been trying to remember to use the thumbs up instead.

Using it in its original context is fine. It’s this BS way they are doing it, but pretending that they aren’t when they get called out on it. Just own your racism if that’s your thing, but the attempts to play naive and gaslight around this childishness is tiresome.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26477 "2018-10-15T12:04:34Z")

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Nixon: “I am not a crook!”  
Thump: [“I am not a baby.”](https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-60-minutes-interview-takeaways-9e77a1b9-aec3-4412-9a66-7d8223dd6563.html) (60 Minutes interview)

Glad we cleared that up.

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26478 "2018-10-15T15:15:39Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> but I’ve been trying to remember to use the thumbs up instead.

Give it a while–they’ll co-opt that one, too.

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26479 "2018-10-15T16:38:51Z")

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Classic comment from Jim Wright (Stonekettle guy), in response to Shitgibbon tweet  
On our way to Florida and Georgia!

_If you’re in the project path, get out now. Red tides, hurricanes, now this. Disasters really do come in threes._

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26480 "2018-10-15T16:45:08Z")

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> [@Shitgibbon tweet](#):
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> On our way to Florida and Georgia!

I’m impressed he didn’t add “Woohoo! Road trip!”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26481 "2018-10-15T17:58:33Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’m impressed he didn’t add “Woohoo! Road trip!”

Sources reported the trip was delayed when an argument broke out over who called shotgun first.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26482 "2018-10-15T18:21:44Z")

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Elizabeth Warren called Trump’s bluff by taking a DNA test which reveals she does have Native American blood. When Leslie Stahl asked him in her interview last night if he was going to pay the $1 million to Warren’s favorite charity, like he said he would if she proved she was of Native American descent, he said, "I never said that.’ Uh, yeah, there’s video, chump.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26483 "2018-10-15T20:00:33Z")

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Trump has a new painting put up in the White House of dogs playing poker. Uh, I mean, Trump (thirty pounds lighter and thirty years younger) sitting around drinking and laughing with past Republican Presidents. I notice Cal Coolidge standing in the wings, I guess he didn’t make the grownups table.  
[https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1051627281687478272/photo/1?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1051627281687478272&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2018%2F10%2F15%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-painting-the-republican-club-presidents-white-house%2Findex.html](https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1051627281687478272/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1051627281687478272&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2018%2F10%2F15%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-painting-the-republican-club-presidents-white-house%2Findex.html)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26484 "2018-10-15T20:02:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump has a new painting put up in the White House of dogs playing poker. Uh, I mean, Trump (thirty pounds lighter and thirty years younger) sitting around drinking and laughing with past Republican Presidents. I notice Cal Coolidge standing in the wings, I guess he didn’t make the grownups table.  
> [https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1051627281687478272/photo/1?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1051627281687478272&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2018%2F10%2F15%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-painting-the-republican-club-presidents-white-house%2Findex.html](https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1051627281687478272/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1051627281687478272&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2018%2F10%2F15%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-painting-the-republican-club-presidents-white-house%2Findex.html)

The others are obviously laughing their asses off because they know they’re going to take him for all he’s worth.

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