# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26625 "2018-10-23T14:35:00Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Hey, it worked for Selma Hayek’s dad! (has he even been to the US?)

And keep an eye on that suspicious-looking [Ms. Mebarak](https://www.google.com/search?q=shakira&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS778US778&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjY_ZGY5JzeAhUs1oMKHSFFB-cQ_AUIDygC&biw=1536&bih=762).

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26626 "2018-10-23T15:53:00Z")

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Colombia isn’t Central America as of last check, though.

Funny: we both live in Barcelona (or at least spend more time there than anywhere else) but the one time I saw her in person was in NYC.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26627 "2018-10-23T18:06:52Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Hey, it worked for Selma Hayek’s dad! (has he even been to the US?)

Her father was born in Mexico. His mother is Mexican.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26628 "2018-10-23T18:18:40Z")

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Mike Pence: “It’s inconceivable that there are not people of Middle Eastern descent in a crowd of more than 7,000 people advancing toward our border.”

> **[Pence: ‘It’s inconceivable there are not people of Middle Eastern descent’ in...](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern/)**
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> Vice President Pence on Tuesday supported President Trump’s claim without evidence that “unknown Middle Easterners” are traveling with the group of Central American migrants movin…

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26629 "2018-10-23T18:42:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mike Pence: “It’s inconceivable that there are not people of Middle Eastern descent in a crowd of more than 7,000 people advancing toward our border.”  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern)

So what? Is he concerned that some of them are looking to circumvent Trump’s Muslim ban that totally didn’t actually exist?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26630 "2018-10-23T18:43:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mike Pence: “It’s inconceivable that there are not people of Middle Eastern descent in a crowd of more than 7,000 people advancing toward our border.”  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern)

The sheer, icy intellect approaching a predetermined answer despite logic and clear thinking.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26631 "2018-10-23T18:50:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mike Pence: “It’s inconceivable that there are not people of Middle Eastern descent in a crowd of more than 7,000 people advancing toward our border.”  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern)

Is he stupid, paranoid or just supporting his boss?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26632 "2018-10-23T18:54:10Z")

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Everyone is of Middle Eastern descent. It’s the first land region _Homo sapiens sapiens_ lived in after leaving Africa about 100,000 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26633 "2018-10-23T19:17:32Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Is he stupid, paranoid or just supporting his boss?

Maybe I’m misreading his comments, but he appears not to know that there are places that are not the US other than Mexico and the Middle East.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26634 "2018-10-23T19:38:08Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Is he stupid, paranoid or just supporting his boss?

¿porque no los tres?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26635 "2018-10-23T20:01:22Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> ¿porque no los tres?

Porque there is a “just” in there.  
:dubious:

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26636 "2018-10-23T21:06:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mike Pence: “It’s inconceivable that there are not people of Middle Eastern descent in a crowd of more than 7,000 people advancing toward our border.”  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412746-pence-its-inconceivable-there-are-not-people-of-middle-eastern)

“I do not think that word means what you think it means.”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26637 "2018-10-23T21:35:36Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Indeed, I can name at least one person, Brian Kemp, who is exactly the kind of person the “second amendment solutions” crowd would be talking about if they were anything other than a bunch of craven right-wing lunatic shitheads.
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> Hi, **Bone**.

Second Amendment solutions to every thing they don’t like. Second Amendment solutions threatened whenever it looks like they might not get their way.

Who again is the “angry mob” again?

Who is stupid enough to think none of us will shoot back?

Fuck their Second Amendment solutions.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26638 "2018-10-23T21:40:42Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The real story is how Trump and the GOP are going to redefine their America. They’re going after immigration, and they’re just getting started. Legal immigration is going to be cut down sharply.
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> But that’s just the beginning. Jim Crow version 2.0 is already quietly underway. Look at what’s happening in Georgia and North Carolina with voting rights - just the beginning. Once you prevent blacks from voting, the next step is to keep blacks under control, by jailing them for minor crimes, allowing discrimination in the private sector, and making it obvious where their ‘place’ in society is.

It wouldn’t stop there.

There always as to be some form of _The Other_.  
There always has to be some struggle, some threat, some enemy.

ALWAYS. Otherwise the whole narrative falls apart.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26639 "2018-10-23T21:42:47Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> What’s next? “They have a cave troll”?

and he was hired by George Soros and the Globalists.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26640 "2018-10-23T21:58:33Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Maybe I’m misreading his comments, but he appears not to know that there are places that are not the US other than Mexico and the Middle East.

And Trump’s not clear at all where the Middle East is. I wonder how geographically aware the rest of the clowns in his car are.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26641 "2018-10-23T22:00:07Z")

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Snugged up against the middle West, one would hope.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26642 "2018-10-23T22:43:11Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And Trump’s not clear at all where the Middle East is. I wonder how geographically aware the rest of the clowns in his car are.

Well, he revealed in public that he doesn’t know that Israel is in the Middle East.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26643 "2018-10-24T00:07:00Z")

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It sucks that the press has to take the administration seriously and ask actual questions of them about this tax cut Trump keeps talking about that isn’t a real thing, or the caravan terrorists that aren’t a real thing, or the left wing mobs that aren’t a real thing as if any of these things are real things.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26644 "2018-10-24T00:26:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump declares himself a nationalist.  
> [https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/trump-proudly-declares-he-is-a-nationalist-were-not-supposed-to-use-that-word/?fbclid=IwAR3dprYgeNR4615d2HaYor-gWX-6tFAl7zbLMk7YMi3AlQWlLCotRuyrC1Y](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/trump-proudly-declares-he-is-a-nationalist-were-not-supposed-to-use-that-word/?fbclid=IwAR3dprYgeNR4615d2HaYor-gWX-6tFAl7zbLMk7YMi3AlQWlLCotRuyrC1Y)
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> Nice accomanying photo.

President (wannabe for life) Trump! Or, as I like to think of him, Orange is the New Brownshirt.

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