# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26965 "2018-11-07T23:40:05Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Thump throws tantrum at presser.
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> [‘You Are a Rude, Terrible Person’: After Midterms, Trump Renews His Attacks on the Press](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/07/business/media/trump-press-conference-media.html?partner=rss&emc=rss)  
> SNAFU.

I’m telling you all, and perhaps for the final time: understand what the fuck is happening here. This is going to be a full-on assault on the constitution. Everyone’s going to work the next day like shit is normal. I’m telling you: it ain’t.

People can call me names or start threads about me if they want. I’m telling you all: **we are running out of fucking time.**

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26966 "2018-11-07T23:41:53Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> [http://time.com/5448197/jeff-sessions-resigns/](http://time.com/5448197/jeff-sessions-resigns/)
> 
> Holy shit.

I fucking tried to tell you people. This is just the beginning. Just the beginning. The fight for the heart and soul of this country is on, and I’ve got news for you all. The price of defending democracy just went up. What was once fixable just by, you know, getting out the vote and organizing…now might require jail time. Because that’s what happens when try to speak truth to power. And in order to save democracy in America, that’s what will have to happen.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26967 "2018-11-08T00:12:35Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m telling you all, and perhaps for the final time: understand what the fuck is happening here. This is going to be a full-on assault on the constitution. Everyone’s going to work the next day like shit is normal. I’m telling you: it ain’t.
> 
> People can call me names or start threads about me if they want. I’m telling you all: **we are running out of fucking time.**

Got any ideas for a plan?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26968 "2018-11-08T00:18:04Z")

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You have to love the irony of Trump calling someone a “rude, terrible person”. The funniest part of that rant, though, is that, contrary to Trump’s incredible lack of understanding of how America works, the journalist is “running CNN”, so to speak, by holding a government official, the president of the fucking country, accountable in public.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26969 "2018-11-08T00:19:10Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Got any ideas for a plan?

No, don’t ask this question. You have no right.

I ask you to explain why I should be optimistic. I’ve passed your tests, time to pass mine.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26970 "2018-11-08T00:19:52Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m telling you all, and perhaps for the final time: …

> [@asahi](#):
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> I fucking tried to tell you people. …

Fuck you.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26971 "2018-11-08T00:22:41Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> No, don’t ask this question. You have no right.

Given the events of the morning, I might say that this attitude is one that our current president would enthusiastically approve of, and indeed, constantly practices himself. 😃

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26972 "2018-11-08T00:23:21Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> No, don’t ask this question. You have no right.
> 
> I ask you to explain why I should be optimistic. I’ve passed your tests, time to pass mine.

Actually, I am coming around to your position. I don’t know what to do about it though

Sorry if it came across wrong.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26973 "2018-11-08T00:26:48Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> No, don’t ask this question. You have no right.
> 
> I ask you to explain why I should be optimistic. I’ve passed your tests, time to pass mine.

We won the house. BE OPTIMISTIC, I COMMAND IT.

Okay, actually I don’t expect anybody to be optomistic; the white house is populated by racist, sexist criminals in thrall to a foreign power. Obviously things are going to be bad for a while. But leaping from there to…whatever you imagine (liberals being rounded up and shot in the streets? I dunno) is very possibly an unjustified leap, depending on what you’re imagining of course.

But in any case, I have the right to ask any damn thing I want to. Free speech, yo - it’s right there in the constitution.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26974 "2018-11-08T00:27:35Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Fuck you.

Awww, whasdamadduh? Did I piss in your cornflakes?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26975 "2018-11-08T00:29:48Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m telling you all, and perhaps for the final time: understand what the fuck is happening here. This is going to be a full-on assault on the constitution. Everyone’s going to work the next day like shit is normal. I’m telling you: it ain’t.
> 
> People can call me names or start threads about me if they want. I’m telling you all: **we are running out of fucking time.**

This whole gloom-and-doom, woe is me, everything-is-fucked-and-there’s-nothing-we-can-do-about-it song-and-dance you’ve been on for ages now is getting pretty goddamn tiresome, and you seriously just need to shut the hell up if you’re just going to piss and moan all day instead of doing something constructive about it.

And I’m saying this as the person who wants all Republicans banned from voting or holding office for life.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26976 "2018-11-08T00:30:01Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Actually, I am coming around to your position. I don’t know what to do about it though.

And that is the problem I’ve had with this particular poster lately: I’m still not entirely sure what his “position” is, other than, “America is dead, and I’m right.” I don’t know if I’m “coming around to it” because I’m honestly not certain what “it” is. He seems to either think it’s self evident, or that the burden is on us to understand.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26977 "2018-11-08T00:31:58Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Awww, whasdamadduh? Did I piss in your cornflakes?

No, it must have been something else. If only my post held some clues…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26978 "2018-11-08T00:33:20Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Actually, I am coming around to your position. I don’t know what to do about it though
> 
> Sorry if it came across wrong.

Sorry for being a shmuck, but this might help (might).

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21310527&postcount=7457](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21310527&postcount=7457)

I don’t pretend to have answers. When the machinery of equal rule breaks down, the answers are hard to come by. But history has some examples of what might work when things get really bad. It absolutely doesn’t involve violence. It involves mass organization, mass protest, and refusal to be governed by illegitimate rule. Easier said than done, but sometimes risk is required to defend democratic and libertarian ideals. Your Revolutionary ancestors braved the threat of execution by the Crown, braved the brutal winters of Pennsylvania, Delaware, and New York. Can you brave the threat of jail for rightful protest and resistance? Is it in you? I’m not saying we’re there yet, but it could get to that.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26979 "2018-11-08T00:59:20Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You have to love the irony of Trump calling someone a “rude, terrible person”. The funniest part of that rant, though, is that, contrary to Trump’s incredible lack of understanding of how America works, the journalist is “running CNN”, so to speak, by holding a government official, the president of the fucking country, accountable in public.

The Young Turks is reporting the White House has revoked Jim Acosta’s press credentials.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26980 "2018-11-08T01:00:18Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> And that is the problem I’ve had with this particular poster lately: I’m still not entirely sure what his “position” is, other than, “America is dead, and I’m right.” I don’t know if I’m “coming around to it” because I’m honestly not certain what “it” is. He seems to either think it’s self evident, or that the burden is on us to understand.

Or that his doomsday meter is like a telethon thermometer, and every time something negative happens a bell rings and he gets a round of applause.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26981 "2018-11-08T01:09:55Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> …What I had hoped is for a serious body blow that would have forced Republicans in the House, the Senate, and the Legislatures to stop and say “Whoa, maybe it’s time to think of getting off the Trump train.”…

I, too, am disappointed that this didn’t happen.

But what also failed to happen is any support for the idea that ‘Trump is unstoppable’ or ‘Trump cannot be opposed because all his candidates win and all who oppose him lose’ or any other construction that would lead Republicans to think they must simply bow their heads in reverence, and let him do whatever he chooses.

Trump endorsed around three dozen candidates–_ **and fewer than half of them won** _.

> [@](#):
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> … Trump is far from a kingmaker… winning or leading in only half … about his picks for various state and federal races as the midterm elections loomed. … Below are Trump’s endorsed candidates, by date of endorsement. Of his last four tweeted endorsements, three of the candidates lost. …

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/.../trumps-endorsement-record-twitter](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/.../trumps-endorsement-record-twitter)…  
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/07/trumps-endorsement-record-twitter-/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.821375274133](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/07/trumps-endorsement-record-twitter-/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.821375274133)

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> President Donald Trump on Wednesday mocked several Republican candidates who lost races in the 2018 midterm elections after failing to “embrace” him or his agenda.  
> …  
> Trump-endorsed candidates yielded a mixed bag of results. Of the 33 candidates Trump endorsed via Twitter in the days leading up to the election, just 12 have won so far, 16 lost, and five races are still up in the air. …

> **[Trump taunts Republicans who wanted him to stay away and then lost: 'Mia Love...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-taunts-republicans-lost-midterm-elections-mia-love-2018-11)**
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> President Donald Trump on Wednesday mocked Republican candidates who lost races in the 2018 midterm elections, after failing to "embrace" him or his agenda.

Trump is still dangerous. But he’s not invulnerable, and he can’t count on unquestioning support—not even from those who’ve been enabling him for the past two years.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26982 "2018-11-08T01:15:12Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> The Young Turks is reporting the White House has revoked Jim Acosta’s press credentials.

Trump is telling Jim Acosta, the press, and everyone else how America works.

Again, America voted for this – TWICE!!!

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26983 "2018-11-08T01:17:57Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I, too, am disappointed that this didn’t happen.  
> .

Don’t be disappointed. That is such a pussy word.

Be like the Parkland students. Be PISSED!!!

You know, all this Boston Strong, Houston Strong, Las Vegas Strong, Pittsburgh Strong…doesn’t - mean - shit.

You wanna know what means something? Getting out in the fucking streets and fucking protesting. Stickers with #somecitystrong didn’t change a damn thing. But Parkland, FL high school students had a signing ceremony with Rick Scott, a Republican governor.

Stop crying, get mad, and get active.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/26984 "2018-11-08T01:25:59Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> The Young Turks is reporting the White House has revoked Jim Acosta’s press credentials.

A little more info:

CNN journalist Jim Acosta banned from White House after Trump calls him ‘rude, terrible person’

The exchange came during a news conference on the 2018 midterm elections, in which Trump called out numerous politicians for both parties who lost elections.

> **[CNN journalist Jim Acosta banned from White House after Trump calls him...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/trump-unloads-cnn-journalist-jim-acosta-you-are-rude-terrible-n933571)**
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> The exchange came during a news conference on the 2018 midterm elections, in which Trump called out numerous politicians for both parties who lost elections.

> [@](#):
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> President Donald Trump’s ongoing feud with Jim Acosta, CNN’s chief White House correspondent, boiled over on Wednesday, with Trump verbally berating the journalist before the White House ultimately suspended his press access.
> 
> Acosta tweeted Wednesday night that he was denied access when he tried to enter the White House. He added in another tweet that he didn’t “blame” the U.S. Secret Service agent who stopped him.
> 
> “I know he’s just doing his job,” Acosta wrote.
> 
> Press Secretary Sarah Sanders later issued a statement that said the reporter’s “hard pass” was suspended as a result of his attempt to keep control of a microphone during Wednesday’s news conference with the president.
> 
> She called Acosta’s behavior “absolutely unacceptable.”
> 
> “It is also completely disrespectful to the reporter’s colleagues not to allow them an opportunity to ask a question,” Sanders stated.

:rolleyes:

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