# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1355
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27085 "2018-11-11T14:15:21Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Thump just doesn’t give a fuck anymore. He’ll do whatever he wants to from now on without even the slightest pretense of being “presidential.” Frankly, I think he’s curious about just how much he can get away with. And it’s probably a lot more than we’ve seen so far. Oh, he gives a fuck alright. Our established legal and political systems are threatening to hold him accountable for crimes and ethical offenses against the United States – they have from the start. But now as a result of the most recent elections, that threat is now a clear and present danger to him and his family. And it’s a threat to the oligarchs and the religious fanatics who have access to the levers of power. Their window is closing. They might disagree on the specifics of tactics and timing but they clearly have a shared interest generally in rigging the system. Trump is actively challenging the validity of the law, the validity of the Constitution, the validity of our electoral process. And he’s daring the rest of us to stop him. People who sit around and say things like “We’ve been through worse,” or “Well I was alive when Nixon did this - we’ll survive.” People who say that don’t get it. They just don’t understand how dangerous a situation we’re in right now. **This is the greatest danger this country has faced since 1865.** And people who believe it’s hyperbole don’t understand how explosive a situation it is when people lose faith that democracy and the rule of law are valid. It’ll tear this country to pieces. What if a sitting president defies the Constitution? “We can impeach him!” What if a sitting president defies the Constitution and the Congress helps him do it? “We can vote the bums out!” But what if we don’t vote the bums out? (and we haven’t in the Senate, by the way) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27086 "2018-11-11T15:12:29Z")
You find that person who looks at you the way that [Trump looks at Putin](http://worldabcnews.com/donald-trump-beams-as-vladimir-putin-joins-leaders-at-paris-event-commemorating-end-of-ww1-world-news/) when he walks in the room, and you hold on to them even if your friends look at that person the way all the other world leaders are. (I think this is the picture that they use in history books to describe what was going on during this time period.) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27087 "2018-11-11T15:53:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > \People who sit around and say things like “We’ve been through worse,” or “Well I was alive when Nixon did this - we’ll survive.” People who say that don’t get it.\ hahahahahha. Yep, Nixon was nothing. A piker. Trump is a complete crook. Through and through. The thing is, is that he is such a moron and has been so insulated his entire life that he may not know it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27088 "2018-11-11T16:19:57Z")
Nixon was a criminal, but he loved his country. Failing Donnie is a criminal, and he doesn’t give a tinker’s dam about his country. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27089 "2018-11-11T17:22:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And people reacted with incredulity during the campaign every time I referred to Trump as a Bazi or said he’s jyst like Hitler. I didn’t. I hoped he wouldn’t be elected, and if elected, that our institutions would hold him in check, but I saw him as an authoritarian from the moment he oozed down the escalator. But yeah, there were many who tried to reassure us that he was no Nazi, that he had no fascist tendencies. > [@Monty](#): > > Nazi, rather. Eh, I kinda like Bazis. They aren’t like hitler, they’re jyst like Hitler. 🙂 > [@asahi](#): > > Oh, he gives a fuck alright. Our established legal and political systems are threatening to hold him accountable for crimes and ethical offenses against the United States – they have from the start. But now as a result of the most recent elections, that threat is now a clear and present danger to him and his family. And it’s a threat to the oligarchs and the religious fanatics who have access to the levers of power. Their window is closing. They might disagree on the specifics of tactics and timing but they clearly have a shared interest generally in rigging the system. Trump is actively challenging the validity of the law, the validity of the Constitution, the validity of our electoral process. And he’s daring the rest of us to stop him. > > People who sit around and say things like “We’ve been through worse,” or “Well I was alive when Nixon did this - we’ll survive.” People who say that don’t get it. They just don’t understand how dangerous a situation we’re in right now. **This is the greatest danger this country has faced since 1865.** And people who believe it’s hyperbole don’t understand how explosive a situation it is when people lose faith that democracy and the rule of law are valid. It’ll tear this country to pieces. > > What if a sitting president defies the Constitution? > > “We can impeach him!” > > What if a sitting president defies the Constitution and the Congress helps him do it? > > “We can vote the bums out!” > > But what if we don’t vote the bums out? (and we haven’t in the Senate, by the way) #itcanthappenhere ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27090 "2018-11-11T18:43:35Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You find that person who looks at you the way that [Trump looks at Putin](http://worldabcnews.com/donald-trump-beams-as-vladimir-putin-joins-leaders-at-paris-event-commemorating-end-of-ww1-world-news/) when he walks in the room, and you hold on to them even if your friends look at that person the way all the other world leaders are. > > (I think this is the picture that they use in history books to describe what was going on during this time period.) Somehow I hear Cloris Leachman’s voice, “_He vas my **boyvriend**!_” > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Eh, I kinda like Bazis. They aren’t like hitler, they’re jyst like Hitler. 🙂 It is a contraction of “Bigly Nazis” (or maybe Bigly Buffoonish Nazis). And he is just like [Mr. Hilter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg). ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27091 "2018-11-11T19:29:01Z")
Bazi was Chachi’s older brother, who like Chuck mysteriously disappeared. And Scott Baio _is_ a Chump supporter. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27092 "2018-11-11T19:47:34Z")
The leaders of the world marched side by side down the middle of the Champs d’Elysees today. Trump did not participate. * * * In a meeting back in April with the leaders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, he criticized them for the Yugoslav war. Yugoslavia is in the Balkans. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are in the Baltic. > **[Trump 'Confused the Baltics With Balkans'](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-confused-baltics-balkans-and-accused-confused-leaders-starting-yugoslav-1210939)** > > Report in "Le Monde" says Trump made the mistake in April. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27093 "2018-11-11T19:49:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The leaders of the world marched side by side down the middle of the Champs d’Elysees today. Trump did not participate. > > * * * > > In a meeting back in April with the leaders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, he criticized them for the Yugoslav war. Yugoslavia is in the Balkans. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are in the Baltic. > [Trump Confused the Baltics With Balkans—And Accused Confused Leaders of Starting Yugoslav Wars: Report](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-confused-baltics-balkans-and-accused-confused-leaders-starting-yugoslav-1210939) Bal-this, Bal-that, all shitholes anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27094 "2018-11-11T20:05:12Z")
I’m pretty surprised that none of the usual suspects has come forward to give us the real reason of why Trump is a hero for not going to the ceremony at the cemetery. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27095 "2018-11-11T20:11:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The leaders of the world marched side by side down the middle of the Champs d’Elysees today. Trump did not participate. > > * * * > > In a meeting back in April with the leaders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, he criticized them for the Yugoslav war. Yugoslavia is in the Balkans. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are in the Baltic. > [Trump Confused the Baltics With Balkans—And Accused Confused Leaders of Starting Yugoslav Wars: Report](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-confused-baltics-balkans-and-accused-confused-leaders-starting-yugoslav-1210939) Nobody knew that geography could be so complicated. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27096 "2018-11-11T20:14:54Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I’m pretty surprised that none of the usual suspects has come forward to give us the real reason of why Trump is a hero for not going to the ceremony at the cemetery. He prefers soldiers who _didn’t_ die serving their country. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27097 "2018-11-11T20:18:40Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I’m pretty surprised that none of the usual suspects has come forward to give us the real reason of why Trump is a hero for not going to the ceremony at the cemetery. Somebody on Twitter said that Trump is the oldest elected President, and would you want your grandfather to go out into the cold rain? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27098 "2018-11-11T20:20:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Somebody on Twitter said that Trump is the oldest elected President, and would you want your grandfather to go out into the cold rain? Hell, I encourage him to start sitting out in the hot tub during thunderstorms and sleeping in the open in January… ETA: I mean encourage TRUMP, not my grandfather. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27099 "2018-11-11T20:26:56Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You find that person who looks at you the way that [Trump looks at Putin](http://worldabcnews.com/donald-trump-beams-as-vladimir-putin-joins-leaders-at-paris-event-commemorating-end-of-ww1-world-news/) when he walks in the room, and you hold on to them even if your friends look at that person the way all the other world leaders are. > > (I think this is the picture that they use in history books to describe what was going on during this time period.) Notice how everyone else looks at Putin like they just spotted the turd in the punch bowl. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27100 "2018-11-11T20:29:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Somebody on Twitter said that Trump is the oldest elected President, and would you want your grandfather to go out into the cold rain? But I thought Trump had the best stamina, unlike Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27101 "2018-11-11T20:30:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The leaders of the world marched side by side down the middle of the Champs d’Elysees today. Trump did not participate. > > * * * > > In a meeting back in April with the leaders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, he criticized them for the Yugoslav war. Yugoslavia is in the Balkans. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are in the Baltic. > [Trump Confused the Baltics With Balkans—And Accused Confused Leaders of Starting Yugoslav Wars: Report](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-confused-baltics-balkans-and-accused-confused-leaders-starting-yugoslav-1210939) I mean, it’s not like he has a familial connection to the Balkans. How could he be expected to know anything about them? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27102 "2018-11-11T21:46:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Somebody on Twitter said that Trump is the oldest elected President, and would you want your grandfather to go out into the cold rain? I said there and will here; if my Grandpa wanted to be President, I’d push him out there myself. Don’t wanna be President? Fucking quit. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27103 "2018-11-11T22:04:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Somebody on Twitter said that Trump is the oldest elected President, and would you want your grandfather to go out into the cold rain? The commenters at Fox and Breitbart mostly responded with hilarious jokes about the cowardly French. I’d love to see them on the front lines at the Marne. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27104 "2018-11-11T22:16:36Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The leaders of the world marched side by side down the middle of the Champs d’Elysees today. Trump did not participate. > > * * * > > In a meeting back in April with the leaders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, he criticized them for the Yugoslav war. Yugoslavia is in the Balkans. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are in the Baltic. > [Trump Confused the Baltics With Balkans—And Accused Confused Leaders of Starting Yugoslav Wars: Report](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-confused-baltics-balkans-and-accused-confused-leaders-starting-yugoslav-1210939) Herman “beki-beki-beki-stan” Caine taught geography at Trump U. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1354) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1356)