# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1356
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27105 "2018-11-11T23:55:47Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You find that person who looks at you the way that [Trump looks at Putin](http://worldabcnews.com/donald-trump-beams-as-vladimir-putin-joins-leaders-at-paris-event-commemorating-end-of-ww1-world-news/) when he walks in the room, and you hold on to them even if your friends look at that person the way all the other world leaders are. … It’s a rather odd smile. I can’t think of another photo of Trump in which he has that expression. To me it looks like sycophancy. Like an attempt to ingratiate. Trump is looking at Vlad as though Vlad is the boss who may save his butt. My guess is that Vlad has promised to ‘take care of things’ for Trump, so long as Trump complies with instructions (about destabilizing Europe, mostly, probably). Vlad will ‘take care of things’ via smear campaigns or even assassination of anyone who could threaten Trump with actual jail time. I suppose it’s a lot to hang on an odd smile…but I bet there’s something to it. > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I’m pretty surprised that none of the usual suspects has come forward to give us the real reason of why Trump is a hero for not going to the ceremony at the cemetery. The obvious fiction would have been ‘_credible threats meant that for his security, Trump had to stay at the hotel_.’ But claiming such a thing would step on a lot of toes–it would be very insulting to the French security forces, of course. So my bet is that they’ll wait until Trump is safely out of French airspace on his way home—and then they’ll spin their tale. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27106 "2018-11-12T01:15:39Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You find that person who looks at you the way that [Trump looks at Putin](http://worldabcnews.com/donald-trump-beams-as-vladimir-putin-joins-leaders-at-paris-event-commemorating-end-of-ww1-world-news/) when he walks in the room, and you hold on to them even if your friends look at that person the way all the other world leaders are. > > (I think this is the picture that they use in history books to describe what was going on during this time period.) If someone looked at \*me \*that way, I’d be getting a restraining order. That’s purely creepy. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27107 "2018-11-12T01:49:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Oh, he gives a fuck alright. Our established legal and political systems are threatening to hold him accountable for crimes and ethical offenses against the United States – they have from the start. But now as a result of the most recent elections, that threat is now a clear and present danger to him and his family. And it’s a threat to the oligarchs and the religious fanatics who have access to the levers of power. Their window is closing. They might disagree on the specifics of tactics and timing but they clearly have a shared interest generally in rigging the system. Trump is actively challenging the validity of the law, the validity of the Constitution, the validity of our electoral process. And he’s daring the rest of us to stop him. > > People who sit around and say things like “We’ve been through worse,” or “Well I was alive when Nixon did this - we’ll survive.” People who say that don’t get it. They just don’t understand how dangerous a situation we’re in right now. **This is the greatest danger this country has faced since 1865.** And people who believe it’s hyperbole don’t understand how explosive a situation it is when people lose faith that democracy and the rule of law are valid. It’ll tear this country to pieces. > > What if a sitting president defies the Constitution? > > “We can impeach him!” > > What if a sitting president defies the Constitution and the Congress helps him do it? > > “We can vote the bums out!” > > But what if we don’t vote the bums out? (and we haven’t in the Senate, by the way) Look at Florida, Georgia, and possibly Arizona. What if we vote the bums out and these fuckers decide to not count the votes? Like they are trying to do **NOW**. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27108 "2018-11-12T01:50:45Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > The commenters at Fox and Breitbart mostly responded with hilarious jokes about the cowardly French. > > I’d love to see them on the front lines at the Marne. … and not come back. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27109 "2018-11-12T01:53:39Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > But I thought Trump had the best stamina, unlike Hillary. Hillary would have attended. Only this orange weakling is afraid of a little rain. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27110 "2018-11-12T02:24:12Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Look at Florida, Georgia, and possibly Arizona. > > What if we vote the bums out and these fuckers decide to not count the votes? Like they are trying to do **NOW**. I’m encouraged and discouraged at the same time. It’s clear that a majority of the country is alarmed by Trumpism, but I wonder if they’re alarmed enough. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27111 "2018-11-12T02:44:26Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Hillary would have attended. Only this orange weakling is afraid of a little rain. This fuck won’t share the umbrella with his wife in a little drizzle. A rain? Well that’s way to much for him to handle. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27112 "2018-11-12T02:52:07Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Hillary would have attended. Only this orange weakling is afraid of a little rain. I’d almost be willing to bet that Bush 43 would have gone, this year, if he had been publicly invited. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27113 "2018-11-12T03:14:17Z")
First I checked the new deathpool posting that noted the passing of the man who voiced the HAL-9000, Douglas Rain, then I come in here to discover that the ShitSimian is afraid of the rain. _I’m sorry, Don, I’m afraid we can’t do that_. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27114 "2018-11-12T03:35:15Z")
Winston Churchill’s grandson tore Chump a new asshole over the canceling-due-to-rain stunt. No doubt Chump will label him a Loser at the first opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27115 "2018-11-12T03:56:44Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Somehow I hear Cloris Leachman’s voice, “_He vas my **boyvriend**!_” > > It is a contraction of “Bigly Nazis” (or maybe Bigly Buffoonish Nazis). And he is just like [Mr. Hilter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg). Damn you for bringing that actress’s horrible grating voice back from the depths of memory! I really liked the MTM Show, but I couldn’t stand that particular character, mainly because of the voice. By the way, I’m having issues with posting on a tablet and doing so with my “emergency backup spectacles” (they might be ten years old now) while waiting for the new pair to arrive. Getting old ain’t for the old, friend. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The leaders of the world marched side by side down the middle of the Champs d’Elysees today. Trump did not participate. Good grief. (I can’t even put an exclamation point after any interjection regarding anything from the tangerine twit.) I know this isn’t original, but, damn, those bone spurs sure do flare up at the most inopportune moments, don’t they? > [@](#): > > * * * > > In a meeting back in April with the leaders of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, he criticized them for the Yugoslav war. Yugoslavia is in the Balkans. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are in the Baltic. > [Trump Confused the Baltics With Balkans—And Accused Confused Leaders of Starting Yugoslav Wars: Report - Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-confused-baltics-balkans-and-accused-confused-leaders-starting-yugoslav-1210939) Good grief. (See above regarding punctuation.) The krazy khaki kook lambasts people from countries not even connected to something. This can’t be the first time he’s pulled that stunt; can it? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Somebody on Twitter said that Trump is the oldest elected President, and would you want your grandfather to go out into the cold rain? If my grandfather had been a racist Nazi-leaning white supremacist traitor, I’d’ve payed the man to go sit on a lightning rod in the worst thunderstorm to hit his hometown. > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > The commenters at Fox and Breitbart mostly responded with hilarious jokes about the cowardly French. > > I’d love to see them on the front lines at the Marne. They can joke about that all they want; however, the fact remains that their hero, the blithering buffoon, not the French, was afraid to be touched by raindrops. > [@dasmoocher](#): > > Notice how everyone else looks at Putin like they just spotted the turd in the punch bowl. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s a rather odd smile. I can’t think of another photo of Trump in which he has that expression. To me it looks like the gibbering goof was imagining/recalling Putin shirtless on a horse. (p.s. Hopefully, I didn’t make any coding errors or misquote any posters here.) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27116 "2018-11-12T04:01:03Z")
Used to, I could not stomach Chump’s press conferences and on-the-fly comments to reporters. But as he steadily grows more unhinged, they are becoming more entertaining. Maybe that’s not quite the right word, given the seriousness of the situation, but it’s like a bad traffic accident in that I cannot look away but rather stare in morbid fascination. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27117 "2018-11-12T04:05:08Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > They can joke about that all they want; however, the fact remains that their hero, the blithering buffoon, not the French, was afraid to be touched by raindrops. I suspect it wasn’t so much he was afraid as that he’d be damned if he’d get cold and wet just to make a bunch of Europeans happy. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27118 "2018-11-12T04:24:42Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Winston Churchill’s grandson tore Chump a new asshole over the canceling-due-to-rain stunt. No doubt Chump will label him a Loser at the first opportunity. [link](https://mic.com/articles/192404/trump-world-war-i-ceremony-france#.tNelPpxBm) Apparently Nick Soames feels the Shitgibbon is not fit for the job. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27119 "2018-11-12T04:36:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [link](https://mic.com/articles/192404/trump-world-war-i-ceremony-france#.tNelPpxBm) > > Apparently Nick Soames feels the Shitgibbon is not fit for the job. Thank you. I should have included a link, but that one is great. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27120 "2018-11-12T06:49:27Z")
At the Armistice memorial luncheon, [the French redid the seating arrangements at the last minute](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/french-officials-thwart-trump-putin-meeting-scrapping-lunch-seating-arrangements-last-minute-report/) so that Trump and Putin couldn’t sit together. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27121 "2018-11-12T07:39:47Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Thank you. I should have included a link, but that one is great. And he didn’t misspell anything. I was thinking all country leaders were allowed to do so recently. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27122 "2018-11-12T11:16:01Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I’m pretty surprised that none of the usual suspects has come forward to give us the real reason of why Trump is a hero for not going to the ceremony at the cemetery. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > The obvious fiction would have been ‘_credible threats meant that for his security, Trump had to stay at the hotel_.’ But claiming such a thing would step on a lot of toes–it would be very insulting to the French security forces, of course. > > So my bet is that they’ll wait until Trump is safely out of French airspace on his way home—and then they’ll spin their tale. Poor country mouse. Once he’s out of French airspace, he’ll be claiming that he was right there in the front row. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27123 "2018-11-12T11:47:21Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [link](https://mic.com/articles/192404/trump-world-war-i-ceremony-france#.tNelPpxBm) > > Apparently Nick Soames feels the Shitgibbon is not fit for the job. > [@](#): > > But he and Melania Trump skipped a planned visit to the Ainse-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial, an American cemetery home to more than 2,000 graves of service members killed in nearby battles, **because of “scheduling and logistical difficulties caused by the weather,** ” the White House said Saturday\*\*. Chief of Staff John Kelly and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford were to attend in the president and first lady’s absences.\*\* So how the hell did _they_ manage to get there? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27124 "2018-11-12T11:52:38Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [link](https://mic.com/articles/192404/trump-world-war-i-ceremony-france#.tNelPpxBm) > > Apparently Nick Soames feels the Shitgibbon is not fit for the job. Soames is a sleazemonster in his own right\* but compared to Trump he’s a model of class and refinement, and no one can doubt his patriotism. He’s scored a palpable hit on this one. By the way, it is possible that [it wasn’t rain Trump was afraid of encountering](https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1060909506559987712). - Soames was a serious skirtchaser despite being a rather large gentleman;one anonymous mistress described having sex with him “like having a wardrobe fall on top of you with the key sticking out”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1355) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1357)