# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1359
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27165 "2018-11-13T13:35:25Z")
Now I’m trying to come up with alternative names for Political Officers. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27166 "2018-11-13T14:28:15Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think Mattis is definitely out. Mattis isn’t going to be on board with plans to hyper-politicize the military, and I think that’s what’s on tap next. I acknowledge that I have no evidence to support it at the present time, but the logic is that if you’re done with democracy, which I think the Trumpists are, then you load the institutions with ideologues. Well, if his AG choice wasn’t Exhibit A of that, I don’t know what could be. Matt Whitaker is a ridiculous choice in terms of qualifications and suitability for the role, but a fanatic Trumpist. The fact that Trump has already partially disavowed Whitaker, claiming he doesn’t know him when in fact he knows him quite well, perhaps suggests Whitaker is not long for the role, but it’s an example of the kind of Trumpist who’s going to get all the appointments from now on. Not for an instant do I think Trump’s attitude towards military appointments would be any different. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27167 "2018-11-13T16:43:17Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > And President Shitstain did NOTHING to commemorate Veterans Day. Nothing whatsoever in an official capacity. Not even a tweet. Got a cite for that? Better than this one, I mean? > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [**Trump Decides Not To Leave WH To Visit Arlington Cemetery On Veteran’s Day**](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-wont-visit-arlington-cemetery-veterans-day) ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27168 "2018-11-13T17:00:44Z")
Just in the interest of fighting ignorance. The Nubbin’ did attend a ceremony at Suresnes American Cemetery on Sunday, November 11 (Armistice Day) in France. He arrived back at the Whitehouse at 7:00pm on Sunday. He arrived at Andrews AFB at 6:40pm, the day that observances were held at Arlington. He spent Monday (US Veterans Day) in his anxiety closet. Sorry, that’s not entirely accurate [but close enough](https://factba.se/topic/calendar) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27169 "2018-11-13T17:05:50Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > And a guy who, upon being told “I have bad news; with these blood pressure readings (10 over 5, using US units), you’re clinically dead” answered “guess that explains why I’ve been feeling kind of under the weather then!” Holy Jumpin’ Jesus! Was he like that guy in Milliways who was spending the year dead for tax purposes? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27170 "2018-11-13T18:00:43Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Nielsen and Kelly are not moderates. They just know not to wear their hoods in public. > > The rumor I see going around is Nielsen and Mattis out, Graham in at DOD and Cotton in at DHS. Can’t see Trump promoting Graham. Graham has said some nasty things about Trump and although Trump seems to “forget” things he said a few days ago, he does remember who’s on his shit list. Yes Graham has done a complete 180 in the last few months, and started brown nosing with the best of them, I suspect he’s going to end up with the same treatment as Christie. Sent out to get hamburgers, humiliated in public and then left out in the cold. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27171 "2018-11-13T18:26:48Z")
Oh yeah - Graham is setting himself up for the Romney/Christie treatment. I think I’ll pretend to feel sorry for him. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27172 "2018-11-13T19:45:26Z")
NSC aide Mira Ricardel is out because Melania didn’t like the way she treated her. > **[Trump may oust national security deputy over feud with Melania, say sources](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-may-oust-national-security-deputy-over-feud-with-first-lady-say-sources)** > > WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - President Donald Trump is moving to replace his deputy national security adviser after she feuded with first lady Melania Trump, two sources familiar with the matter said, with a spokeswoman for the first lady leaving no... Melania’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham announced, “It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House.” [https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1062426844153159680](https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1062426844153159680) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27173 "2018-11-13T20:41:54Z")
I think Graham might be positioning himself for the attorney general role in case scrutiny forces Whitaker out. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27174 "2018-11-13T23:29:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > NSC aide Mira Ricardel is out because Melania didn’t like the way she treated her. > [Trump may oust national security deputy over feud with Melania, say sources](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-may-oust-national-security-deputy-over-feud-with-first-lady-say-sources) > > Melania’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham announced, “It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House.” > > [https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1062426844153159680](https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1062426844153159680) People keep feeling sorry for Melania. I see no sign at all that she isn’t just as much of an entitled asshole as her husband. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27175 "2018-11-13T23:30:37Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > People keep feeling sorry for Melania. I see no sign at all that she isn’t just as much of an entitled asshole as her husband. But maybe a broken clock is somehow right twice a day and this is one of those times. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27176 "2018-11-13T23:34:17Z")
[From the “How Can They Tell?” department:](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-absent-20181113-story.html) > [@](#): > > With the certainty that the incoming Democratic House majority will go after his tax returns and investigate his actions, and the likelihood of additional indictments by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Trump has retreated into a cocoon of bitterness and resentment, according to multiple administration sources… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27177 "2018-11-13T23:40:36Z")
And he’s insulting [Macron & the French](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/13/trump-says-french-learning-german-paris-us-intervened-world/) again. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27178 "2018-11-14T00:31:09Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But maybe a broken clock is somehow right twice a day and this is one of those times. Perhaps, but bear in mind that the solution to a broken spring is most likely to replace it with a defective one. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27179 "2018-11-14T02:04:24Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > And he’s insulting [Macron & the French](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/13/trump-says-french-learning-german-paris-us-intervened-world/) again. This is what he wants – well, this is what Putin and the global oligarchs want, more specifically. It’s as plain as day that the American right wing is all-in on authoritarianism and oligarchy, but those pesky Europeans! Claim that they’re not paying their fair share. Normalize the idea that the US and our allies are no longer allies. Fuck Canada! Fuck France! Fuck Germany! In reality, we’re just fucking ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27180 "2018-11-14T02:19:38Z")
Amen. Putin’s real aim is destabalize the US and Europe and he has done so. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27181 "2018-11-14T02:48:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > NSC aide Mira Ricardel is out because Melania didn’t like the way she treated her. > [Trump may oust national security deputy over feud with Melania, say sources](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-may-oust-national-security-deputy-over-feud-with-first-lady-say-sources) > > Melania’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham announced, “It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House.” > > [https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1062426844153159680](https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1062426844153159680) First Benedict Donald (thanks **Baal Houtham** ) lectures Baltic leaders over the Balkans, and now we have a Slovenian first lady feuding with an appointee of Croatian descent. I wonder what Putin thinks. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27182 "2018-11-14T03:03:11Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Can’t see Trump promoting Graham. Graham has said some nasty things about Trump and although Trump seems to “forget” things he said a few days ago, he does remember who’s on his shit list. Yes Graham has done a complete 180 in the last few months, and started brown nosing with the best of them, I suspect he’s going to end up with the same treatment as Christie. Sent out to get hamburgers, humiliated in public and then left out in the cold. I don’t know why Graham is called a “moderate.” He was a disciple of Trumpism when DJT was just a gleam in Sheldon Adelson’s eye: > [@Senator Lindsay Graham at the 2012 Republican Convention](#): > > The demographics race we’re losing badly. We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27183 "2018-11-14T03:52:33Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [From the “How Can They Tell?” department:](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-absent-20181113-story.html) I can barely stop myself from chortling with glee, at the thought of Trump curled up in a fetal position, cancelling all his appointments, too broken to even pick up his Twitter-phone. But then I think of the kind of damage he could do in a fit of pique and it takes some of the fun out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27184 "2018-11-14T05:16:06Z")
The French Army is trolling Trump. > **[French army appears to mock Donald Trump in viral tweet](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46193090)** > > The French army tweeted that rain would not slow it down, in the wake of the president's no-shows. And the French Embassy attended the ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknowns on Memorial Day, where Trump was not. Though I can’t find a news report on it now, though I did earlier. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1358) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1360)