# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27245 "2018-11-16T22:07:50Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Trump is giving the medal of freedom to Babe Ruth, Elvis, and Scalia. They must be looking for deceased people to honor who don’t have the capability to turn him down.
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> Next year, perhaps we should look forward to the honorees including George Washington, Christopher Columbus, and maybe Cleopatra. The deader the better?

I think Trump should give the award to God, and call for the arrest of The New York Times during the speech.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27246 "2018-11-16T22:29:35Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> My money is on Jesus.
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> Edit: :shakes fist:

No way! Big time commie cuck! Have you ever READ anything that guy wrote?!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27247 "2018-11-16T22:35:24Z")

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> [@mistymage](#):
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> Trump only rewards people who pay him (obviously not the dead people listed) like Miriam Adelson. [Trump giving Miriam Adelson the Medal of Freedom captures the transactional nature of his presidency](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-giving-miriam-adelson-medal-freedom-captures-transactional-nature-his-ncna937121) or to score brownie points from the GOP like Orrin Hatch.

From _Elections_:

> [@Trump not giving out medal of freedom](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-not-giving-out-medal-of-freedom/823500/52):
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> [Trump to honor donor’s wife with presidential award](https://apnews.com/51b3f635cfda40289742499929ce3cc3)
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> The AP has largely stopped fucking around when writing stories and headlines about Trump and his supporters.
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> 😃

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27248 "2018-11-17T15:41:21Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Speaking of demands for civility: A performance of _Fiddler on the Roof_ was disrupted by a patron yelling [“Heil Hitler! Heil Trump!”.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/theater/2018/11/15/man-shouts-heil-hitler-heil-trump-fiddler-roof-show/2014356002/)

Why on earth would an anti-Semite pay to see _Fiddler on the Roof_? Since he got tossed, I hope he and his girl had the $150 front row center tickets.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27249 "2018-11-17T16:44:01Z")

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House Democrats should let Trump build the wall.

Make a deal. Universal Healthcare for a great big, beautiful wall, complete with “TRUMP WALL” in huge gold letters across the top at every mile marker. This could completely consume his attention for the final two years of his presidency. There could be a live video feed of construction and Donnie could sit on the oval office floor in his diaper and play along with his toy building blocks.

The damn thing could be torn down later. Hell, just let them build a few miles and that should keep the drooling moron happy. Tie up the rest of the project in lawsuits and logistical snafus. And there could be add-ons down the road: in exchange for re-entering the Paris Agreement, Congress could declare little Donnie “Border King” and provide him with a uniform and hat. The uniform would come with medals, of course. The best medals.

Winning!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27250 "2018-11-17T16:54:05Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> House Democrats should let Trump build the wall.
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> Make a deal. Universal Healthcare for a great big, beautiful wall, complete with “TRUMP WALL” in huge gold letters across the top at every mile marker. This could completely consume his attention for the final two years of his presidency. There could be a live video feed of construction and Donnie could sit on the oval office floor in his diaper and play along with his toy building blocks.
> 
> The damn thing could be torn down later. Hell, just let them build a few miles and that should keep the drooling moron happy. Tie up the rest of the project in lawsuits and logistical snafus. And there could be add-ons down the road: in exchange for re-entering the Paris Agreement, Congress could declare little Donnie “Border King” and provide him with a uniform and hat. The uniform would come with medals, of course. The best medals.
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> Winning!

That’s not actually a bad idea. The caravan people could be hired to do the work at $15/hour.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27251 "2018-11-17T17:51:56Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Speaking of demands for civility: A performance of _Fiddler on the Roof_ was disrupted by a patron yelling [“Heil Hitler! Heil Trump!”.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/theater/2018/11/15/man-shouts-heil-hitler-heil-trump-fiddler-roof-show/2014356002/)

[You mean by the Trump hater:](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-yelled-apos-heil-hitler-172809861.html)

> [@](#):
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> The Maryland man who interrupted a performance of “Fiddler on the Roof” Wednesday night to yell, “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump!” has said he is now “so embarrassed and ashamed and disgusted” with his own actions.
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> Anthony Derlunas, 58, apologized profusely Friday during an interview on his front porch with WBAL-TV 11, a local NBC affiliate.
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> **He explained that he was frustrated with President Donald Trump and that his shout was intended to compare Trump to Adolf Hitler.** A scene in the musical ― a wedding interrupted by czarist Russian police ― had reminded him of Trump.

(bolding mine)

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27252 "2018-11-17T17:53:08Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Why on earth would an anti-Semite pay to see _Fiddler on the Roof_? Since he got tossed, I hope he and his girl had the $150 front row center tickets.

See link in my post immediately above. The guy was not an anti-Semite, he was a Trump hater.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27253 "2018-11-17T17:55:29Z")

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Of course he wasn’t a Trump supporter. He didn’t shoot anybody.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27254 "2018-11-17T17:56:27Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> See link in my post immediately above. The guy was not an anti-Semite, he was a Trump hater.

I think it’s fair to say that anyone who shouts “Heil Hitler!” is being anti-semitic, whatever their motives. Maybe they’re very stupid as well, but that’s a pretty damn anti-semitic thing to do.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27255 "2018-11-17T18:15:35Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think it’s fair to say that anyone who shouts “Heil Hitler!” is being anti-semitic, whatever their motives. Maybe they’re very stupid as well, but that’s a pretty damn anti-semitic thing to do.

Maybe. But it appears that’s not the case. If you clicked on the link you’d see that he appears to have other motivation. Much like some of the hate crime hoaxes on campuses.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27256 "2018-11-17T18:35:26Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Maybe. But it appears that’s not the case. If you clicked on the link you’d see that he appears to have other motivation. Much like some of the hate crime hoaxes on campuses.

I’d say he appears to be highly confused, such that I’m less than convinced his explanation afterwards is any more trustworthy than his calls to “Heil” Hitler and Trump.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27257 "2018-11-17T18:37:35Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’d say he appears to be highly confused, such that I’m less than convinced his explanation afterwards is any more trustworthy than his calls to “Heil” Hitler and Trump.

Maybe if he had yelled “Heil Trump!” he’d have made his point more effectively.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27258 "2018-11-17T18:38:12Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> … The guy was not an anti-Semite, he was a Trump hater.

Fuckin shit this is funny. I’ll let you guess why.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27259 "2018-11-17T18:42:27Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Maybe if he had yelled “Heil Trump!” he’d have made his point more effectively.

He actually did… or am I missing a whoosh?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27260 "2018-11-17T18:49:01Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Fuckin shit this is funny. I’ll let you guess why.

Oo! Oo! Mr. Kotter! Oo oo oo!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27261 "2018-11-17T19:14:22Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> That’s not actually a bad idea. The caravan people could be hired to do the work at $15/hour.

I thought about that listening to NPR this morning. Trump was quoted as saying, “Maybe the Democrats will change their minds.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27262 "2018-11-17T19:57:38Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’d say he appears to be highly confused, such that I’m less than convinced his explanation afterwards is any more trustworthy than his calls to “Heil” Hitler and Trump.

Apparently he was highly ethylated at the time.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27263 "2018-11-17T22:53:04Z")

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So he got shitfaced, as one does when attending the theater.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27264 "2018-11-17T23:44:20Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Trump is giving the medal of freedom to Babe Ruth, Elvis, and Scalia. They must be looking for deceased people to honor who don’t have the capability to turn him down.
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> Next year, perhaps we should look forward to the honorees including George Washington, Christopher Columbus, and maybe Cleopatra. The deader the better?

> [@enipla](#):
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> Caligula, Al Capone and Bonnie and Clyde.

Quite seriously: Roy Cohn will almost certainly be suggested by Trump. (Or may already have been. It would be a suggestion that Trump’s handlers would try to distract him from pursuing, for obvious reasons.)

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