# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1365
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27285 "2018-11-19T01:23:48Z")
I understand that thought. And I believe that while his fat sweaty head dripped on the button he should push, that he’d chicken out. (Maybe have some electricians fired and then blame them for the faulty button which hs fingers were totally big and strong enough to push.) ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27286 "2018-11-19T01:31:08Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I honestly don’t worry much about Trump and nukes. Here’s why: The leaders of the rest of the world, even the crazy ones, are way smarter than he is. They’re riding this “administration” out, knowing that it’s temporary. For Trump’s part, just like he’s too chickenshit to fire anyone himself, or to listen to the Khashoggi murder tape [Trump on Khashoggi death tape: 'No reason for me to hear it'](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-report-khashoggi-death-expected-few-days-063207890--politics.html) , strike a Syrian airbase without first letting the Russians know, or confront Fucking nazis that support him, he simply lacks the balls to do anything of real consequence that he’d be responsible for. > ETA: Let me give you an example. When we got Bin Laden we went into Pakistan in the middle of the night without asking permission. I don’t see Trump having the cojones to do such a thing. I share your opinion of Trump’s courage…but. I can certainly see him ordering a launch if he’s finally backed into a corner where he thinks he can lose. Impeachment, and trial in the Senate. If he thinks he could lose it all, I have no difficulty believing that he’d spitefully murder millions, just to “show us”. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27287 "2018-11-19T01:43:48Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > ETA: Let me give you an example. When we got Bin Laden we went into Pakistan in the middle of the night without asking permission. I don’t see Trump having the cojones to do such a thing. Well, of course he would ask Putin for permission first. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27288 "2018-11-19T02:49:04Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I share your opinion of Trump’s courage…but. > > I can certainly see him ordering a launch if he’s finally backed into a corner where he thinks he can lose. Impeachment, and trial in the Senate. If he thinks he could lose it all, I have no difficulty believing that he’d spitefully murder millions, just to “show us”. Yeah. That wimp wouldn’t have any problem ordering a nuclear strike if he feels some nation has offended him. What I don’t see happening is that enough craven sycophants are in a position to actually carry out that order. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27289 "2018-11-19T03:01:58Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Yeah. That wimp wouldn’t have any problem ordering a nuclear strike if he feels some nation has offended him. What I don’t see happening is that enough craven sycophants are in a position to actually carry out that order. He won’t do it himself. He can’t. He’ll tell Kelly to do it. And Kelly will tell him no. Then he’ll whine about it on Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27290 "2018-11-19T03:06:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I don’t see Trump having the cojones to do such a thing. Hey, if Taco Bell doesn’t serve them, he doesn’t know what they are. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27291 "2018-11-19T05:02:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He won’t do it himself. He can’t. > > He’ll tell Kelly to do it. > > And Kelly will tell him no. > > Then he’ll whine about it on Twitter. Yep. The **K** ooky **K** razy **K** retin, that tangerine twit, is incapable of admitting he made a mistake. That’s the sole reason he has others fire people for him. As I mentioned in another post, to fire someone himself would be Trump admitting he made a mistake in the hiring in the first place. And he can’t have people knowing that. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27292 "2018-11-19T05:32:56Z")
[Trump blasts Ret. Adm. Bill McRaven, the guy who took down Bin Laden.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/18/politics/donald-trump-william-mcraven/index.html) In his Fox News interview tonight, when Chris Wallace started to bring up McRaven’s criticism of him in an op-ed earlier this year, Trump stopped him and said “Hillary Clinton fan…excuse me, Hillary Clinton fan.” When Wallace pushed back and said McRaven was a 37-year Navy SEAL, and the head of US Special Operations that took down Bin Laden, Trump said, “OK, he’s a Hilary Clinton backer and an Obama-backer,” as if being such a thing made you the enemy of the state. But as if being a “backer” of Hillary and Barack wasn’t enough, then Trump said, “Wouldn’t it have been nice if we got Osama Bin Laden a lot sooner than that, wouldn’t it have been nice?” So this dusty canker sore can’t even acknowledge that a military leader was an integral part of something heroic, just because he happened to do it on that negro president’s watch? But here’s the part of his pathetic man-baby yammering that made me laugh: “[Bin Laden] living in Pakistan, beautifully in Pakistan in what I guess they considered a nice mansion, I don’t know, I’ve seen nicer…” It’s like he’s disgusted that we “let” Bin Laden live in a mansion in Pakistan-- a “beautiful” mansion— but then realized in mid-sentence that the jagaloons listening to him might actually question his taste in mansions if he didn’t clarify that the mansion wasn’t really that great. What. An. Insecure. Loser. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27293 "2018-11-19T05:54:15Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Trump blasts Ret. Adm. Bill McRaven, the guy who took down Bin Laden.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/18/politics/donald-trump-william-mcraven/index.html) He sends troops to the border on a political stunt, taking them from their families on Thanksgiving. He fucks up Veterans Day and the centennial of the Great War. He contradicts the CIA. He disses the Seals and McRaven responds. > [@Admiral William H. McRaven](#): > > “I did not back Hillary Clinton or anyone else,” he fact-checked. “I am a fan of President Obama and President George W. Bush, both of whom I worked for.” > > “I admire all presidents, regardless of their political party, who uphold the dignity of the office and who use that office to bring the nation together in challenging times,” he continued. > > “I stand by my comment that the president’s attack on the media is the greatest threat to our democracy in my lifetime,” he added. “When you undermine the people’s right to free press and freedom of speech and expression, then you threaten the Constitution and all for which it stands.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27294 "2018-11-19T11:54:19Z")
One more point on Trump’s visit to the wildfire sites in California: he said, [and I quote](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-wildfires-california-camp-fire-paradise-forest-management-a8639551.html), > [@The Donald](#): > > I have strong opinions, I want a great climate “I want a great climate”. I swear we’re only a few weeks away from Trump declaring "[I love lamp".](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gId6nrMDmUU) ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27295 "2018-11-19T11:59:29Z")
The problem is, where does he want a great climate? Because while I do think Mediterranean climate is pretty great except for really liking it fiery on occasion, it isn’t very appropriate for Juneau. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27296 "2018-11-19T13:36:42Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > One more point on Trump’s visit to the wildfire sites in California: he said, [and I quote](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-wildfires-california-camp-fire-paradise-forest-management-a8639551.html), > > “I want a great climate”. I swear we’re only a few weeks away from Trump declaring "[I love lamp".](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gId6nrMDmUU) Eggs. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kRLUMjbHZqs/hqdefault.jpg "I Love Eggs") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRLUMjbHZqs&t=136) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27297 "2018-11-19T14:23:40Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > He sends troops to the border on a political stunt, taking them from their families on Thanksgiving. > > He fucks up Veterans Day and the centennial of the Great War. > > He contradicts the CIA. > > He disses the Seals and McRaven responds. > [@Admiral William H. McRaven](#): > > “I did not back Hillary Clinton or anyone else,” he fact-checked. “I am a fan of President Obama and President George W. Bush, both of whom I worked for.” > > “I admire all presidents, regardless of their political party, who uphold the dignity of the office and who use that office to bring the nation together in challenging times,” he continued. > > “I stand by my comment that the president’s attack on the media is the greatest threat to our democracy in my lifetime,” he added. “When you undermine the people’s right to free press and freedom of speech and expression, then you threaten the Constitution and all for which it stands.” McRaven has more honor and gravitas in his left little toe than Donny Two-scoops has in his entire corpulent self. Of course, that’s a low bar. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27298 "2018-11-19T16:09:28Z")
You know, it occurs to me that if Grandpa started blathering the increasingly random nonsense we have been hearing from Trump recently, I’d be thinking about hiding the car keys. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27299 "2018-11-19T16:19:33Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > He sends troops to the border on a political stunt, taking them from their families on Thanksgiving. > > He fucks up Veterans Day and the centennial of the Great War. > > He contradicts the CIA. > > He disses the Seals and McRaven responds. Hey, remember the time Obama disrespected the troops in an outrageous and unforgivable way with his coffee cup salute? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27300 "2018-11-19T16:26:22Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Hey, remember the time Obama disrespected the troops in an outrageous and unforgivable way with his coffee cup salute? And he did it wearing a tan suit. While his feet were propped up on the desk in the Oval Office. Disgraceful! Okay, I made that up. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27301 "2018-11-19T16:34:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And he did it wearing a tan suit. While his feet were propped up on the desk in the Oval Office. Disgraceful! > > Okay, I made that up. Trumpsters can’t tell the difference. Has this been posted yet? **‘Nothing on this page is real’: How lies become truth in online America** > **[‘Nothing on this page is real’: How lies become truth in online America](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/nothing-on-this-page-is-real-how-lies-become-truth-in-online-america/2018/11/17/edd44cc8-e85a-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.436d93ace52f)** > > On Facebook, he writes America’s Last Line of Defense. She likes and shares. > [@](#): > > “BREAKING,” he wrote, pecking out each letter with his index fingers as he considered the possibilities. Maybe he would announce that Hillary Clinton had died during a secret overseas mission to smuggle more refugees into America. Maybe he would award President Trump the Nobel Peace Prize for his courage in denying climate change. > > A new message popped onto Blair’s screen from a friend who helped with his website. “What viral insanity should we spread this morning?” the friend asked. > > “The more extreme we become, the more people believe it,” Blair replied. > > He had launched his new website on Facebook during the 2016 presidential campaign as a practical joke among friends — a political satire site started by Blair and a few other liberal bloggers who wanted to make fun of what they considered to be extremist ideas spreading throughout the far right. In the last two years on his page, America’s Last Line of Defense, Blair had made up stories about California instituting sharia, former president Bill Clinton becoming a serial killer, undocumented immigrants defacing Mount Rushmore, and former president Barack Obama dodging the Vietnam draft when he was 9. “Share if you’re outraged!” his posts often read, and thousands of people on Facebook had clicked “like” and then “share,” most of whom did not recognize his posts as satire. Instead, Blair’s page had become one of the most popular on Facebook among Trump-supporting conservatives over 55. Now I know where some of my Facebook Trumppet friends get their news. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27302 "2018-11-19T16:42:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > His dad made him rake the front yard when he was 7, and forests are just biglier versions of yards. I doubt that Trump has ever come within 10 feet of a rake, with the exception of the times that this caddy rakes the sand trap that Trump takes 10 swings (9 of which were “practice” so he counts it as one) to get out of. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27303 "2018-11-19T16:55:16Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > The problem is, where does he want a great climate? Because while I do think Mediterranean climate is pretty great except for really liking it fiery on occasion, it isn’t very appropriate for Juneau. In reality, the climate of Juneau is only a little cooler than Mediterranean, because of all the ocean nearby. It might be noted, though, that the state capitol building, at around 70’, is only a few feet higher than the US Capitol, so the sea level rise that comes with global warming would be problematic for them. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27304 "2018-11-19T17:44:42Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trumpsters can’t tell the difference. Has this been posted yet? > > **‘Nothing on this page is real’: How lies become truth in online America** > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/nothing-on-this-page-is-real-how-lies-become-truth-in-online-america/2018/11/17/edd44cc8-e85a-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed\_story.html?utm\_term=.436d93ace52f](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/nothing-on-this-page-is-real-how-lies-become-truth-in-online-america/2018/11/17/edd44cc8-e85a-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.436d93ace52f) > > Now I know where some of my Facebook Trumppet friends get their news. > [@](#): > > **What she trusted most was her own ability to think critically and discern the truth** , and increasingly her instincts aligned with the online community where she spent most of her time. IMO the bolded part is a textbook example of [Dunning–Kruger effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1364) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1366)