# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1366
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27305 "2018-11-19T18:03:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > IMO the bolded part is a textbook example of [Dunning–Kruger effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect). Ha! I was describing this article to my father and I mentioned exactly that. I’m not kidding when I say my Trumpster Facebook friends think this stuff is real and comment on it. Why did you know George Soros, in collusion with Hillary, is paying gynecologists to tell pregnant Trump supporters that there is something wrong with their pregnancies and they need immediate abortions? I’ve seen that one a few times. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27306 "2018-11-19T18:14:20Z")
Trump was absolutely correct in every way. [Here’s a vid of someone in Finland raking up leaves into a leaf pile.](https://youtu.be/uNVSSIvBQOc) There are a bunch er fellers in Finland today keeping the forests tidy – there are even folks in [Brazil](https://youtu.be/jidgO4QaWIc?t=8) who use biggly American rakes to tidy their forests. Why can’t librul California use made-in-America equipment to rake its forests rather than invading illegals? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27307 "2018-11-19T18:33:26Z")
This just in: [Trump waffles on pledge to keep chief of staff John Kelly](https://apnews.com/20d3b0c101824425bf3be67c679aaa74) > [@](#): > > Trump, in a wide-ranging interview that aired on “Fox News Sunday,” praised Kelly’s work ethic and much of what he brings to the position but added, “There are certain things that I don’t like that he does.” > > “There are a couple of things where it’s just not his strength. It’s not his fault. It’s not his strength,” said Trump, who added that Kelly himself might want to depart. > > Asked whether he would keep Kelly in his post through 2020, the president offered only that “it could happen.” Trump had earlier pledged publicly that Kelly would remain through his first term in office, though many in the West Wing were skeptical. > > Trump said he was happy with his Cabinet but was thinking about changing “three or four or five positions.” ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27308 "2018-11-19T18:40:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > In reality, the climate of Juneau is only a little cooler than Mediterranean, because of all the ocean nearby… Say what? Is this some kind of whoosh that’s going to make me feel stupid? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27309 "2018-11-19T18:49:40Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > This just in: [Trump waffles on pledge to keep chief of staff John Kelly](https://apnews.com/20d3b0c101824425bf3be67c679aaa74) W. House = Waffle House ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27310 "2018-11-19T19:00:04Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Say what? Is this some kind of whoosh that’s going to make me feel stupid? Juneau is about 20 degrees colder, on average, than northern Mediterranean cities like Dubrovnik or Marseilles. For southern Mediterranean cities it’s more like 30 degrees. I would say that’s more than “slightly.” Juneau probably isn’t as cold as most people assume though. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27311 "2018-11-19T19:03:24Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Say what? Is this some kind of whoosh that’s going to make me feel stupid? No, not a whoosh. When I lived in Portland (Oregon), I was told Portland had a Mediterranean climate. Juneau has lower average temperatures than Portland, but not by all that much. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27312 "2018-11-19T19:05:50Z")
After having visited Paradise, California, Trump talked about the town of “Pleasure”. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27313 "2018-11-19T19:32:44Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > No, not a whoosh. When I lived in Portland (Oregon), I was told Portland had a Mediterranean climate. Juneau has lower average temperatures than Portland, but not by all that much. Climate zones are not determined by temperature alone. Juneau is nowhere near having a Mediterranean climate; it is on the boundary between cool summer humid continental and subarctic climates. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27314 "2018-11-19T20:16:02Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Climate zones are not determined by temperature alone. Juneau is nowhere near having a Mediterranean climate; it is on the boundary between cool summer humid continental and subarctic climates. The most telling statistic is summertime rainfall. Average rainfall in California in Jun-Sept = virtually zero. Avg rainfall in Juneau in those months = a metric shit ton. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27315 "2018-11-19T20:30:21Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > After having visited Paradise, California, Trump talked about the town of “Pleasure”. An entire town destroyed. 77 confirmed dead, 993 still missing. 11,713 residences, 472 commercial and 3,388 other buildings destroyed, smoke causing the worst air quality _in the world_ for cities hours away and he can’t be bothered to remember the name of the town. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27316 "2018-11-19T20:41:11Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > An entire town destroyed. 77 confirmed dead, 993 still missing. 11,713 residences, 472 commercial and 3,388 other buildings destroyed, smoke causing the worst air quality _in the world_ for cities hours away and he can’t be bothered to remember the name of the town. I await his excuse. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27317 "2018-11-19T21:13:06Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I await his excuse. Probably the Secret Service’s fault. You see, they needed to keep his location double top secret. Or, maybe it’s his staff’s fault. Because it just cannot possibly be his own fault. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27318 "2018-11-19T21:30:08Z")
It’s Hillary’s fault. A staffer loyal to her did not give him the correct index card with the name of the town. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27319 "2018-11-19T21:48:37Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > An entire town destroyed. 77 confirmed dead, 993 still missing. 11,713 residences, 472 commercial and 3,388 other buildings destroyed, smoke causing the worst air quality _in the world_ for cities hours away and he can’t be bothered to remember the name of the town. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I await his excuse. > [@dasmoocher](#): > > Probably the Secret Service’s fault. You see, they needed to keep his location double top secret. Or, maybe it’s his staff’s fault. Because it just cannot possibly be his own fault. > [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > It’s Hillary’s fault. A staffer loyal to her did not give him the correct index card with the name of the town. No, no. You’re all wrong, silly people. He’s going to say that the name of the town **IS** “Pleasure,” and the Fake News Media, the residents of the town, and the state of California have gotten the name wrong all these years. And the MAGAbots will believe him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27320 "2018-11-19T22:09:29Z")
I thought it was because they had not properly raked. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27321 "2018-11-19T22:33:01Z")
In America, leaves rake President! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27322 "2018-11-19T23:16:32Z")
[Even his tweets are degenerating](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/18/politics/trump-schiff-little-adam-schitt-tweet/index.html) (and yes, somehow it’s possible): > [@](#): > > “So funny to see little Adam Schitt (D-CA) talking about the fact that Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker was not approved by the Senate, but not mentioning the fact that Bob Mueller (who is highly conflicted) was not approved by the Senate!” “Adam Schitt”. Yes, we do have a 12 year old for a President, and an underparented one at that. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27323 "2018-11-20T01:32:43Z")
> [@](#): > > ivanka trump sent hundreds of emails last year to white house aides, cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules, according to people familiar with a white house examination of her correspondence. Lock Ivanka up!!! ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27324 "2018-11-20T01:55:31Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > In America, leaves rake President! Rake America Great Again! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1365) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1367)