# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27325 "2018-11-20T02:07:56Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> Rake America Great Again!

That would look great on a hat!

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27326 "2018-11-20T02:14:12Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Lock Ivanka up!!!

Isn’t Ivanka supposed to be the smart one in this family?

I guess it’s all relative (ha!).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27327 "2018-11-20T02:39:42Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Lock Ivanka up!!!

[Money quote from the story](https://apnews.com/994f48fe3c85407b8f683b8d1381c7ac):

> [@Austin Evers](#):
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> For more than two years, President Trump and senior leaders in Congress have made it very clear that they view the use of personal email servers for government business to be a serious offense that demands investigation and even prosecution, and we expect the same standard will be applied in this case.

😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27328 "2018-11-20T02:51:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Austin Evers, Executive Director of American Oversight  
> For more than two years, President Trump and senior leaders in Congress have made it very clear that they view the use of personal email servers for government business to be a serious offense that demands investigation and even prosecution, and we expect the same standard will be applied in this case.

Sorry, you misquoted. That should read:  
“For more than two years, President Trump and senior leaders in Congress have made it very clear that they view the use of personal email servers for government business to be a serious offense that demands investigation and even prosecution  
**when it is done by Democrats. It’s okay when Republicans do it.** ”

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27329 "2018-11-20T03:03:51Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Isn’t Ivanka supposed to be the smart one in this family?
> 
> I guess it’s all relative (ha!).

Yeah…she is the smartest, least repulsive publicly active\* member of the family - but given the low bar set by the others, it doesn’t take much to reach that level.

- Tiffany and Barron may well be genius saints, for all I know, but Tiffany stays out of the public sphere, and Barron is a kid, so I can’t say anything about them.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27330 "2018-11-20T03:07:50Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> In reality, the climate of Juneau is only a little cooler than Mediterranean, because of all the ocean nearby. It might be noted, though, that the state capitol building, at around 70’, is only a few feet higher than the US Capitol, so the sea level rise that comes with global warming would be problematic for them.

Climate is a lot more than temperature. Mediterranean climates are indeed not that much hotter than Atlantic/Oceanic ones (1), and may get higher annual rainfalls (2), but in mediterranean climates it falls as heavy rainshowers, hail storms, or huge damnfuckingstopthecarnow storms; in atlantic climates it tends to be along the lines of “do I bother open the umbrella?.. nah…”

1: same pattern, gets different names depending on who you ask  
2: Seville’s annual rainfall is higher than London’s, Italy is Europe’s rainiest country

> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, not a whoosh. When I lived in Portland (Oregon), I was told Portland had a Mediterranean climate. Juneau has lower average temperatures than Portland, but not by all that much.

I wonder what definitions they were using. San Francisco is further south and it’s Atlantic/Continental; the vegetation looks so much like Pamplona’s I was having double vision. I guess to someone who thinks Pamplona, Vigo, Jaca, Madrid or Burgos have Mediterranean climates on account of being on a Mediterranean country, Portland (OR) would be Mediterranean. As would Aspen.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27331 "2018-11-20T03:58:47Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> I share your opinion of Trump’s courage…but.
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> I can certainly see him ordering a launch if he’s finally backed into a corner where he thinks he can lose. Impeachment, and trial in the Senate. If he thinks he could lose it all, I have no difficulty believing that he’d spitefully murder millions, just to “show us”.

At this point, I would not put anything past him. If he can get credit and “glory”, and/or if he can blame someone else, AND make some money off it too … ALL bets will be off. I will never ever trust him to do the right thing. Ever.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27332 "2018-11-20T04:39:29Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Yeah. That wimp wouldn’t have any problem ordering a nuclear strike if he feels some nation has offended him. What I don’t see happening is that enough craven sycophants are in a position to actually carry out that order.

I don’t believe Trump would fire a nuclear weapon at a country that could strike back at him. Everything is about self interest with him. But I do think he would nuke Blue states. If he can kill enough Democrats, he can lock in a 2020 victory. For example, if he nukes California, he can say the Democrats left him no choice, he had to destroy sanctuary cities filled with illegal invader rapists for the overall safety of the country.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27333 "2018-11-20T04:44:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> After having visited Paradise, California, Trump talked about the town of “Pleasure”.

Let’s all hope he never visits Intercourse, Pennsylvania.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27334 "2018-11-20T06:55:02Z")

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I’m surprised there’s no thread to discuss the unconstitutional Attorney General, Matt Whitaker. Not only is he a right-wing turd who thinks only Christians should serve as judges, he is a flim-flam artist. [According to Stephen Colbert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5VpXBKxt_U) Whitaker touted time travel for a company later shut down for fraud, patented a toilet deep enough to accommodate Bigfoot’s dong, etc.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27335 "2018-11-20T08:59:06Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Let’s all hope he never visits Intercourse, Pennsylvania.

Or Climax, Michigan

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27336 "2018-11-20T14:37:56Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> An entire town destroyed. 77 confirmed dead, 993 still missing. 11,713 residences, 472 commercial and 3,388 other buildings destroyed, smoke causing the worst air quality _in the world_ for cities hours away and he can’t be bothered to remember the name of the town.

Why would he? None of his golf courses are there.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27337 "2018-11-20T14:47:23Z")

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Speaking of, is Trump no longer playing golf? I haven’t seen a story fuming over how much money/how many days he’s spending playing golf in quite a time.

I suppose it may have just faded into ‘dog bites man’ non-newsiness, but if he’s really not playing, is it a sign he’s sick? Or maybe depressed. (It’s got to be depressing to have the entire world laughing at you all the time.)

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27338 "2018-11-20T14:58:37Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Whitaker … patented a toilet deep enough to accommodate Bigfoot’s dong

Two questions:

1. How big is bigfoot’s dong?
2. If it’s that big, why do they call it big_foot_?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27339 "2018-11-20T15:18:32Z")

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So President Gritty on Acid wants to revoke Acosta’s WH pass [again?](https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/cnn-asks-for-emergency-hearing-after-trump-threatens-to-revoke-acosta-s-press-pass-again)  
This is the “new action” the WH was yammering about?  
Absolutely fuck these totalitarian pieces of shit.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27340 "2018-11-20T15:23:20Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Speaking of, is Trump no longer playing golf? I haven’t seen a story fuming over how much money/how many days he’s spending playing golf in quite a time.

Wasn’t he playing for part of Armistice Day weekend? Or at least tweeting from a golf club. It’s only that “from a golf club” when the subject is “Mr. Trump” has become a bit like “wearing white” when the subject happens to be “the Pope”.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27341 "2018-11-20T15:30:18Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Speaking of, is Trump no longer playing golf? I haven’t seen a story fuming over how much money/how many days he’s spending playing golf in quite a time.
> 
> I suppose it may have just faded into ‘dog bites man’ non-newsiness, but if he’s really not playing, is it a sign he’s sick? Or maybe depressed. (It’s got to be depressing to have the entire world laughing at you all the time.)

It’s spending Turkey Day at Mar-A-Lago, so you can rest assured there will be rounds of golf. As a NYer, Florida can have him and may it never, ever set foot here again.

Did it at least pardon a turkey, or did it shit on another trivial, easy, positive photo opportunity tradition?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27342 "2018-11-20T15:33:57Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> It’s spending Turkey Day at Mar-A-Lago, so you can rest assured there will be rounds of golf. As a NYer, Florida can have him and may it never, ever set foot here again.
> 
> Did it at least pardon a turkey, or did it shit on another trivial, easy, positive photo opportunity tradition?

Trump doesn’t like turkeys that got caught. He likes turkeys that don’t _need_ a pardon.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27343 "2018-11-20T15:36:39Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> So President Gritty on Acid wants to revoke Acosta’s WH pass [again?](https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/cnn-asks-for-emergency-hearing-after-trump-threatens-to-revoke-acosta-s-press-pass-again)  
> This is the “new action” the WH was yammering about?  
> Absolutely fuck these totalitarian pieces of shit.

I think that’s old news (I know, a whole 24 hours ago!). From what I’ve heard the WH has fully re-instated Acosta’s press credentials and CNN has dropped their lawsuit.

ETA: [Link](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/media/cnn-acosta-emergency-hearing/index.html).

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27344 "2018-11-20T16:52:23Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I think that’s old news (I know, a whole 24 hours ago!). From what I’ve heard the WH has fully re-instated Acosta’s press credentials and CNN has dropped their lawsuit.
> 
> ETA: [Link](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/media/cnn-acosta-emergency-hearing/index.html).

> [@](#):
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> Tensions remain high, with the White House rarely holding press briefings and Trump regularly lashing out at the media. Some observers wondered if he picked the fight with CNN and Acosta to distract the media from the Democrats’ gains in the midterm elections.

Trump is many things, but he’s not subtle like Tricky Dick. I doubt it ever occurs to him to resort to distraction. When Chris Wallace asked him about the Blue Wave, Trump kept saying he won because of the Senate. He never acknowledged the House. His method of dealing with it is to pretend it never happened. Fake news.

Everything he says and does is straight off the top of his implanted head with no foresight or planning. Chaos has no hidden layers.

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