# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1386
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27705 "2018-12-01T02:51:22Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I can’t believe that. > In Rhode Island, my nephew by marriage walked up to a survivor at the swimming pool and asked her, “Who wrote on your arm?” > I lost it, and walked away, hoping my wife would deal with it. > Please, G-d, let that be “fake news”. [Sorry, brother](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/take-a-number-migrants-blocked-at-the-border-wait-their-turn-to-apply-for-asylum_us_5c01b25ce4b0606a15b54e11); that’s how they do it. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27706 "2018-12-01T02:54:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mike Pence poses with law enforcement officers, one of whom is wearing a QAnon patch _ **on his fucking uniform** _! > [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch) Maybe he’ll try his commander’s patience and tack on Pepe the frog, and for good measure, a white pride celtic cross. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27707 "2018-12-01T02:55:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > DHS are now literally just [stamping numbers on the arms of refugees.](https://twitter.com/stableford/status/1068618512808194049) The original plan to use branding irons met with some resistance, eh? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27708 "2018-12-01T03:10:04Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > The original plan to use branding irons met with some resistance, eh? Tattoos are the usual method. > **[Identification of inmates in Nazi concentration camps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_in_Nazi_concentration_camps)** > > Identification of inmates in Nazi concentration camps was performed mostly with identification numbers marked on clothing, or later, tattooed on the skin. More specialized identification in Nazi concentration camps was done with badges on clothing and armbands. > A practice was established to tattoo the inmates with identification numbers. Prisoners sent straight to gas chambers didn't receive anything. Initially, in Auschwitz, the camp numbers were sewn on the clothes; with the increased death r... ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27709 "2018-12-01T15:02:30Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’ll take a crack at it. > > Individual 1 is not the person charged in the indictment/information. In order to give a modicum of privacy to persons involved but not yet charged – and who may never be charged – there is a custom and practice among prosecutors to not overtly name those persons. > > In most cases, we’d never much give a crap who Individual 1 is and that person’s privacy would be protected. It’s different when Individual 1 happens to be a person who occupies the Oval Office. > > IANAL. Not a lawyer either, but to add to this. If I was associating with low profile unsavory characters through no fault of my own, being anonymized in their indictments means people can’t search for my name and seeing the pattern. Which is good, because it actually is through no fault of my own that so many people I interact with get indicted, they just took a shine to my bakery and plan their heists there. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27710 "2018-12-01T15:20:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mike Pence poses with law enforcement officers, one of whom is wearing a QAnon patch _ **on his fucking uniform** _! > [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch) > [@TheHill](#): > > The tweet was later deleted and Pence tweeted another version hours later that did not include the original image showing the officer with the patch. Another attempt to stuff something down the memory hole. Fortunately, the internet remembers things forever. Re: Numbered asylum seekers. Truly, there is no bottom. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27711 "2018-12-01T16:43:21Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mike Pence poses with law enforcement officers, one of whom is wearing a QAnon patch _ **on his fucking uniform** _! > [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch) I’d like to hear that that motherfucker was identified to/by his boss and disciplined. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27712 "2018-12-01T17:15:48Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’d like to hear that that motherfucker was identified to/by his boss and disciplined. [The deputy](https://www.newsweek.com/florida-police-officer-greets-mike-pence-wearing-qanon-patch-1239913) \*in the picture was identified as Sergeant M. Patten by the name on his uniform. Veda Coleman-Wright, the sheriff’s office spokesperson, told the Miami New-Times the department was unaware that Patten was wearing the patch while meeting Pence. “The patch is not authorized by BSO,” she reportedly said. “This matter will be addressed immediately.”\* ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27713 "2018-12-01T17:31:34Z")
Cool! I’m glad to hear that! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27714 "2018-12-01T23:47:16Z")
Trump shook hands with the President of Argentina, the host of the G-20 summit, then walked off the stage instead of standing there to take the usual photos with him, leaving him standing there. [Trump Greets Argentinian President Mauricio Macri, Promptly Walks Off Stage | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-greets-argentinian-president-mauricio-macri-promptly-walks-off-stage_us_5c02f200e4b0606a15b5d9b5)? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27715 "2018-12-01T23:54:43Z")
Why are sheriffs wearing military uniforms? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27716 "2018-12-02T00:01:40Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Why are sheriffs wearing military uniforms? The US police departments are militarized. They use tanks and helmets. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27717 "2018-12-02T00:04:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > DHS are now literally just [stamping numbers on the arms of refugees.](https://twitter.com/stableford/status/1068618512808194049) I’m sorry, but nowhere is it stated that anyone from DHS is doing the marking. They seem to be written in Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27718 "2018-12-02T00:10:33Z")
The militarization of police agencies in the US has been going on for years. I believe they get a lot of cast off military gear. [Militarization Of Police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarization_of_police) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27719 "2018-12-02T01:00:41Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump shook hands with the President of Argentina, the host of the G-20 summit, then walked off the stage instead of standing there to take the usual photos with him, leaving him standing there. > [Trump Greets Argentinian President Mauricio Macri, Promptly Walks Off Stage | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-greets-argentinian-president-mauricio-macri-promptly-walks-off-stage_us_5c02f200e4b0606a15b5d9b5)? Then Trump went to sit alone at the table while the other heads of state mingled and networked. Sad Donny, sitting there patting his arm to comfort himself: > Quit, Donny. You’re not having any fun and everyone is mean to you. Go live in that solid gold dacha on the shores of the Black Sea, and Vlad will visit often and smile at you! You can have unlimited servants to bow to you and call you Emperor, and eat all the cheeseburgers you want. Quit, Donny! Quit! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27720 "2018-12-02T01:13:51Z")
I don’t know why every head of state doesn’t just ignore him. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27721 "2018-12-02T03:01:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The US police departments are militarized. They use tanks and helmets. There is no US police department. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27722 "2018-12-02T03:03:54Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > There is no US police department. And I did not say there was. I said police department_ **s** _. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27723 "2018-12-02T03:09:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > And I did not say there was. I said police department_ **s** _. No native English speakers were confused by what you wrote. I wouldnt waste your time with the deliberately obtuse. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27724 "2018-12-02T14:55:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump shook hands with the President of Argentina, the host of the G-20 summit, then walked off the stage instead of standing there to take the usual photos with him, leaving him standing there. > [Trump Greets Argentinian President Mauricio Macri, Promptly Walks Off Stage | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-greets-argentinian-president-mauricio-macri-promptly-walks-off-stage_us_5c02f200e4b0606a15b5d9b5)? Here is the [same scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7ik4XRYtc&feature=youtu.be) set to appropriate music. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1385) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1387)