# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27765 "2018-12-05T01:50:37Z")

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President Trump traveled 250 yards to greet George W. Bush. He used a stretch limo and an eight-vehicle motorcade to make the trip.

> **[President Trump traveled 250 yards to greet George W. Bush. He used a stretch...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html)**
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> White House aides did not say why Trump and the first lady chose not to walk across the street to Blair House, which other presidents have done.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27766 "2018-12-05T02:02:10Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> We have got to build a dome and China is going to pay for it!
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Trump  
> > When you look at China, and when you look at other countries where they have foul air, they have not good air that comes over to the United States. People don’t want to talk about it, but it comes over. (Xi) you know, he’s got to do something with his climate, his climates, a little bit, though.
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> [https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1069812526072954881/photo/1](https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1069812526072954881/photo/1)

Word salad uttered by someone who is brain-damaged.

> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> President Trump traveled 250 yards to greet George W. Bush. He used a stretch limo and an eight-vehicle motorcade to make the trip.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html)

“Hey, Bubba, maybe you WAS da president, but _I_ da president now!”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27767 "2018-12-05T02:16:02Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> As the Jacobins erect the guillotine?

“We doo not even have a language! Joost this stupid ack cent!”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27768 "2018-12-05T02:23:03Z")

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I was thinking the story about Pence meeting a police officer was no big deal. He’s the Vice President; he meets lots of people. And sometimes he’ll end up being seen in public with somebody who’ll later turn out to be an embarrassment. It happens. Just because Pence was seen with a guy wearing a QAnon patch doesn’t mean the Trump administration is endorsing the movement.

Then I read the complete [article](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419208-pence-posts-photo-with-law-enforcement-officer-wearing-qanon-patch). And after several paragraphs of discussion about what happened, the final line was this:

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> Trump met with one of the leaders of QAnon, Lionel Lebron, in the Oval Office in August.

What the fuck! Talk about burying the lede.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27769 "2018-12-05T02:25:14Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> President Trump traveled 250 yards to greet George W. Bush. He used a stretch limo and an eight-vehicle motorcade to make the trip.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html)

That’s about a Par 3 hole, should be easy for Trump - but I guess a golf cart would be in appropriate 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27770 "2018-12-05T02:40:35Z")

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No truth to the rumor than Trump tried to climb atop the casket to give a speech. Nobody seems to know how these internet things get started.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27771 "2018-12-05T03:06:55Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> No truth to the rumor than Trump tried to climb atop the casket to give a speech. Nobody seems to know how these internet things get started.

I dunno… everybody’s saying it, so it must be true.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27772 "2018-12-05T03:17:01Z")

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[This just came across my Twitter.](https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/1070120623639326720)

> [@](#):
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> UnsilentMajority  
> @The\_UnSilent\_
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> Fun Fact: Donald Trump now owns 10 of the Dow’s top 20 worst single-day declines in stock market history…
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> #1 2/5/18 -1175  
> #2 2/8/18 -1032  
> #3 10/10/18 -832  
> #4 12/4/18 -799  
> #7 /22/18 -724  
> #11 2/2/18 -665  
> #15 10/24/18 -608  
> #16 11/12/18 -602  
> #18 4/6/18 -572  
> #20 11/20/18 -551

Winning!

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27773 "2018-12-05T03:42:59Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [This just came across my Twitter.](https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/1070120623639326720)
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> Winning!

Much as I like to criticize Trump, raw numbers tell you little except he happens to be president when the Dow is at its highest, which is generally the case for every president. Percentage drops or another inflation adjustment would be necessary to make a comparison meaningful.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27774 "2018-12-05T04:27:19Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [This just came across my Twitter.](https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/1070120623639326720)
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> Winning!

Those are not percentages. They’re also the Dow. Both of which are meaningless in the overall scheme of things, at least compared to stock indices that are more reflective of the broader market are are put into perspective by listing the percentage change.

It also doesn’t say anything about days that the Dow has gone up. The market has been extremely volatile this year, with both large gains and large losses. That’s something that might more reasonably be blamed on the current president: creating an environment where no one is all that sure about the future. Strangely, 2017 was relatively calm. I guess that was before they really knew what was coming.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27775 "2018-12-05T04:53:29Z")

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> [@duality72](#):
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> Much as I like to criticize Trump, raw numbers tell you little except he happens to be president when the Dow is at its highest, which is generally the case for every president.

Eh. If he wants to claim credit for each of the good days, he should take his lumps for each the down days.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27776 "2018-12-05T05:00:53Z")

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> [@glowacks](#):
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> Those are not percentages. They’re also the Dow. Both of which are meaningless in the overall scheme of things, at least compared to stock indices that are more reflective of the broader market are are put into perspective by listing the percentage change.
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> It also doesn’t say anything about days that the Dow has gone up. The market has been extremely volatile this year, with both large gains and large losses. That’s something that might more reasonably be blamed on the current president: creating an environment where no one is all that sure about the future. Strangely, 2017 was relatively calm. I guess that was before they really knew what was coming.

> [@duality72](#):
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> Much as I like to criticize Trump, raw numbers tell you little except he happens to be president when the Dow is at its highest, which is generally the case for every president. Percentage drops or another inflation adjustment would be necessary to make a comparison meaningful.

All true, but it’s still funny - and shows a lot more nuanced thinking than Twitler ever shows. 😃

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27777 "2018-12-05T05:01:15Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> President Trump traveled 250 yards to greet George W. Bush. He used a stretch limo and an eight-vehicle motorcade to make the trip.
> 
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-traveled-250-yards-to-greet-george-w-bush-he-used-a-stretch-limo-and-an-eight-vehicle-motorcade-to-make-the-trip/2018/12/04/19cf3760-f815-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html)

In her last 9 months, my grandmother used a wheelchair when she was in the residence. When we went out, she very much preferred the walker. And she was over 100.

When you’re too weak to walk as long as a 102yo woman, slugs get pants on just so they can pee them laughing.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27778 "2018-12-05T05:38:02Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Eh. If he wants to claim credit for each of the good days, he should take his lumps for each the down days.

I prefer not to follow Trump’s example.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27779 "2018-12-05T05:53:48Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> In her last 9 months, my grandmother used a wheelchair when she was in the residence. When we went out, she very much preferred the walker. And she was over 100.
> 
> When you’re too weak to walk as long as a 102yo woman, slugs get pants on just so they can pee them laughing.

Well, he does have bone spurs…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27780 "2018-12-05T05:58:07Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Well, he does have bone spurs…

I thought those healed up in 1973.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27781 "2018-12-05T14:14:53Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I thought those healed up in 1973.

I was thinking it was [1975](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Saigon). You know, just in case.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27782 "2018-12-05T14:35:27Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I… slugs get pants on just so they can pee them laughing.

Is that a Spanish idiom or did you just make that up? I like it.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27783 "2018-12-05T14:55:58Z")

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Made it up, inspired by a sort of custom local to my hometown of talking of someone as being lower/worse/yuckier than slugs. They’re not very popular, slugs.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27784 "2018-12-05T16:25:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump claims the rioters in Paris are chanting, “We want Trump.”  
> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419650-trump-shares-tweet-claiming-rioting-protesters-in-france-are-chanting](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419650-trump-shares-tweet-claiming-rioting-protesters-in-france-are-chanting)

They might also have been saying “Boo-urns!”

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