# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1395
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27885 "2018-12-10T03:11:26Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Kushner? Well, according to reports, Jared and Ivanka are doing the vetting of new CoS candidates. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27886 "2018-12-10T03:18:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Well, according to reports, Jared and Ivanka are doing the vetting of new CoS candidates. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27887 "2018-12-10T03:23:38Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Well, according to reports, Jared and Ivanka are doing the vetting of new CoS candidates. That should go well. Say, wasn’t it their idea to fire James Comey? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27888 "2018-12-10T03:28:54Z")
Hell, why not just give the job to Ivanka? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27889 "2018-12-10T03:30:16Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Not sure if you were joking or not,[but if not](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-09/ayers-won-t-be-trump-s-chief-of-staff-white-house-official-says): > > “Among those Trump is actively weighing, or has mentioned as possibilities, are Republican Representative Mark Meadows, chairman of the conservative Freedom Caucus, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, budget director Mick Mulvaney **and Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker** , according to several people familiar with the matter.” Apparently, Mulvaney, Lighthizer and Mnuchin are similarly[not interested](https://twitter.com/nancook/status/1071949333166211073) in the worst job on Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27890 "2018-12-10T03:34:21Z")
Seems like Trump wasn’t ready for Kelly to leave. That rather implies that Kelly’s departure was spur-of-the-moment. Obviously, that could just be a matter of him finally getting fed up with Trump, but it would be curious to know if he learned something that made him decide that he was serving a traitor. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27891 "2018-12-10T03:34:22Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > **Mr Trump continues to discover that good help is hard to find.** > > “Trump in new setback as Pence aide Nick Ayers turns down chief of staff role” > > Work for a sociopathic narcissist who lies to his staff and makes up policy by tweet, with an added helping of likelihood of having to testify to the grand jury and pay gobs of money to Washington lawyers? > > Or go home to Georgia with your young family and set up your own think tank? > > Decisions, decisions. > > [New setback for Trump as Pence aide Nick Ayers turns down chief of staff role | Donald Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/09/donald-trump-chief-of-staff-john-kelly-nick-ayers) Seriously, WHY would any sane person want that position? The liar in chief would say stupid lying shit, let him try to smooth it over or explain it, and then shit on him too. There’s NO way to win, no way to not look like a lying fool, and then have the “boss” flush him down the toilet too. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27892 "2018-12-10T03:37:24Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > In his house at R’lyeh, dead Chris Christie waits dreaming… lol ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27893 "2018-12-10T03:40:47Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Way back in the dawn of this thread, I made a parody post in the style of Breitbart but peddling a left-wing conspiracy theory that Trump was basically owned by the Russian mob and he was afraid of them and this explained Trump’s obsequiousness toward Putin. > > Even though I made it clear it was satire, some posters scoffed at the idea that there was some Russian mob angle causing Trump to act the way he does. > > Vox again has an interesting article out and it seems my parody of two years ago may not be as far fetched as I thought it was: > > **Trump’s ties to the Russian mafia go back 3 decades** > Journalist Craig Unger talks Russia, Trump, and “one of the greatest intelligence operations in history.” > > [Mueller news: Trump’s longstanding ties to the Russian mob - Vox](https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/17764132/trump-mueller-russia-mafia-putin-craig-unger) > > :eek: It all goes back to then. Between daddy’s money and Russian money, that’s the ONLY way he stayed afloat no matter how many times he shit the bed - even when smart, legit businessmen were losing big money when the real estate market was tanking. Daddy’s money, Russian money, defrauding his marks (I mean uhhhh “partners”), and tax fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27894 "2018-12-10T03:41:45Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Seems like Trump wasn’t ready for Kelly to leave. That rather implies that Kelly’s departure was spur-of-the-moment. > > Obviously, that could just be a matter of him finally getting fed up with Trump, but it would be curious to know if he learned something that made him decide that he was serving a traitor. Actually, it’s even more hilarious than that. Apparently the agreement was that Kelly himself would announce his departure on Monday. Trump (as usual) undercut his CoS by making the announcement last night at an informal press gaggle as he left for the Army/Navy game, undoubtedly in an effort to redirect attention away from the Mueller/SDNY sentencing recommendations. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27895 "2018-12-10T03:46:37Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Seems like Trump wasn’t ready for Kelly to leave. That rather implies that Kelly’s departure was spur-of-the-moment. > > Obviously, that could just be a matter of him finally getting fed up with Trump, but it would be curious to know if he learned something that made him decide that he was serving a traitor. On Friday, the president was disclosed, by his own DOJ, to have directed numerous felonies. By Sunday, the chief of staff of both the president and the vice president had resigned. Best case scenario it’s just rats off a sinking ship. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27896 "2018-12-10T03:52:52Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Seems like Trump wasn’t ready for Kelly to leave. That rather implies that Kelly’s departure was spur-of-the-moment. > > Obviously, that could just be a matter of him finally getting fed up with Trump, but it would be curious to know if he learned something that made him decide that he was serving a traitor. He probably ran out of patience waiting for the gas chambers to be installed in the kiddie internment camps. “To hell with this, I’ll do it myself!” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27897 "2018-12-10T04:04:10Z")
Mother Jones is reporting that the NRA and the Trump campaign illegally coordinated their campaign buys, even going through the same person: National Media’s chief financial officer, Jon Ferrell > **[Documents point to illegal campaign coordination between Trump and the NRA](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/nra-trump-2016-campaign-coordination-political-advertising/)** > > Trump and the gun group used the same consultants to spearhead TV ad blitzes at the height of the 2016 election, likely in violation of federal law. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27898 "2018-12-10T04:08:33Z")
At this point, it’s probably less complicated to ask if there are any laws the Trump campaign and/or Republican party organizations and/or conservative political organizations DIDN’T break between 2015 and 2018… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27899 "2018-12-10T04:09:25Z")
I bet they even took the Do Not Remove tags off their pillows, the swine. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27900 "2018-12-10T04:30:52Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > At this point, it’s probably less complicated to ask if there are any laws the Trump campaign and/or Republican party organizations and/or conservative political organizations DIDN’T break between 2015 and 2018… How about 16 USC §551 & [36 CFR §261.16(c)](https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/261.16)? > [@](#): > > Cleaning or washing any personal property, fish, animal, or food, or bathing or washing at a hydrant or water faucet not provided for that purpose. Not sure about a, b, and d through j, though. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27901 "2018-12-10T04:48:30Z")
> [@](#): > > (p) Depositing any body waste except into receptacles provided for that purpose. That means he is not allowed to Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27902 "2018-12-10T04:51:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mother Jones is reporting that the NRA and the Trump campaign illegally coordinated their campaign buys, even going through the same person: National Media’s chief financial officer, Jon Ferrell > [Documents Point to Illegal Campaign Coordination Between Trump and the NRA – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/nra-trump-2016-campaign-coordination-political-advertising/) And if the liberal conspiracy theorists are right, a lot of that NRA campaign money came ultimately from Russia through shell companies. The conspiracy part isn’t so much the NRA taking Russian money, but that top Republicans like McConnell and Ryan knew about it and encouraged it. :eek: Trump’s campaign and Presidency have been such an unprecedented shitshow and stain on this country, I don’t think I would be completely shocked if this is eventually revealed to actually be true. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27903 "2018-12-10T04:54:47Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > There’s been 3 Avengers movies in 10 years. That’s not that high a rate. Now add movies which aren’t about “the Avengers” as a group but where the main character is mostly known due to being an Avenger. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27904 "2018-12-10T04:56:14Z")
Trump looks clean on 16 USC §551, and he hasn’t yet run afoul of my favorite amendment, the Third\*… Seriously, I’ve been to a lot of protests, and when people get too uptight, I’ve been known to hold up my “I Support The Third Amendment!” sign. Or I throw a line into a heated debate online like “Well, maybe it’s about time for a Third Amendment Solution… and believe me, I’m part of a well-organized posse ready to do just that!” \*_Amendment III: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1394) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1396)