# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27965 "2018-12-11T19:30:00Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> So really? President Not Too Good At His Job and his admin. are doing something actually commendable, [here,](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/11/trump-preparing-to-condemn-china-doj-to-announce-charges-report.html) for a change, by going after China’s thievery of trade secrets?

I saw that article a few minutes ago. And, yes, I would say that this a good thing to do. Maybe you could post it in the Commendable Things Done by the Trump Administration thread.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27966 "2018-12-11T19:38:59Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Apparently, this mornings Oval Office pow-wow with Individual-1, Pelosi, and Schumer was a blast, with Trump flat out declaring:
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> > [@Individual-1](#):
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> > “I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck…I will take the mantle, I will be the one to shut it down.”
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> Can’t wait until I get home and see this. The GOP must be _thrilled_.

Not that it would make much difference, but people should REALLY ask him to give them statements like that in writing.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27967 "2018-12-11T19:40:58Z")

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> [@railer13](#):
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> i saw that article a few minutes ago. And, yes, i would say that this a good thing to do. Maybe you could post it in the commendable things done by the trump administration thread.

iswydt

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27968 "2018-12-11T19:44:07Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I saw that article a few minutes ago. And, yes, I would say that this a good thing to do. Maybe you could post it in the Commendable Things Done by the Trump Administration thread.

How heartless. Do you really want to be responsible for that good thing spending all of eternity by itself in a thread? Nary another good thing to play with; forlorn and alone; bereft of all thingtual\* contact. You monster!

\*) Don’t bother looking it up. I say it’s a real word and nuts to anyone who says different.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27969 "2018-12-11T20:00:48Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Not that it would make much difference, but people should REALLY ask him to give them statements like that in writing.

I’m all for trading the wall for lowering the medicare age of eligibility by five years every year.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27970 "2018-12-11T20:08:10Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So he’s going to shut down the government, and _then_ ask Mexico to pay for The Wall? Will they consider that much of a threat?

Yeah, what do the Democrats have to do with the wall? Little Donnie Fail-Fail promised Mexico would pay for it.

Unless… Are we all Mexicans now? And if we are, then why would we need a wall?

I’m confused. 😕

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27971 "2018-12-11T20:29:13Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> How heartless. Do you really want to be responsible for that good thing spending all of eternity by itself in a thread? Nary another good thing to play with; forlorn and alone; bereft of all thingtual\* contact. You monster!.

Maybe a second post could mention that he doesn’t like Venezuela’s president?:o

ok I got nothin.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27972 "2018-12-11T20:46:06Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Yeah, what do the Democrats have to do with the wall? Little Donnie Fail-Fail promised Mexico would pay for it.
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> Unless… Are we all Mexicans now? And if we are, then why would we need a wall?
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> I’m confused. 😕

On Cinco de Mayo, everyone’s Mexican!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27973 "2018-12-11T21:02:32Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> “Ignorant of pretty much the entirety of human knowledge”-- what an accomplishment.

His supposed field of expertise is business. And he declared bankruptcy six times.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27974 "2018-12-11T21:07:05Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> His supposed field of expertise is business. And he declared bankruptcy six times.

In some circles, that’s a master business move.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27975 "2018-12-11T21:44:58Z")

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Aqui esta el linko donde Trump dice que Mexico pagare al Wallo:

> **[Trump: Mexico will pay for wall '100%'](https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38737345)**
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> In his first-ever sit-down TV interview as president, Donald Trump says Mexico will reimburse the US for the planned border wall.

Seriously, wtf are we even having this discussion? We are going $1T in debt every year and I don’t want one dollar of my tax money going towards this bullshit project. I voted accordingly and the Dems are… waffling, but sort of standing up to this. I _like_ Mexicans! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27976 "2018-12-11T22:56:10Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “This isn’t your grandfather’s NAMBLA!”

Made _me_ laugh.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27977 "2018-12-11T23:42:02Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Aqui esta el linko donde Trump dice que Mexico pagare al Wallo:  
> [Donald Trump: Mexico will reimburse US for the wall - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38737345/donald-trump-mexico-will-reimburse-us-for-the-wall)
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> Seriously, wtf are we even having this discussion? We are going $1T in debt every year and I don’t want one dollar of my tax money going towards this bullshit project. I voted accordingly and the Dems are… waffling, but sort of standing up to this. I _like_ Mexicans! :mad:

Srsly. “A taco truck on every corner” doesn’t sound like dystopia to me; it sounds like a wondrous society.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27978 "2018-12-11T23:43:39Z")

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We don’t need no immigration  
We don’t need no brown inflow  
No dark mestizos or their children  
Generals, hold them all at bay

All in all, it was all just tricks for the Wall

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27979 "2018-12-11T23:55:31Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Apparently, this mornings Oval Office pow-wow with Individual-1, Pelosi, and Schumer was a blast, with Trump flat out declaring:
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> Can’t wait until I get home and see this. The GOP must be _thrilled_.
> 
> [https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1072542052448198656](https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1072542052448198656)
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> ETA: Bloody Hell!

Don’t forget Mike Pence! He was there too. Serving the vital role of hostage.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27980 "2018-12-11T23:55:46Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Maybe you could post it in the Commendable Things Done by the Trump Administration thread.

I’d start that, but I’m tired of being the last post in a thread before it shrivels on the vine.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27981 "2018-12-12T00:10:41Z")

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[COLOR=“DarkOrange”]And if border lanes break open many years too soon  
And if there is no more San Ysidro Port of Entry,  
And if your head explodes with deportation fears  
I’ll see you, on the dark side, of the fence.[/COLOR]

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27982 "2018-12-12T01:11:45Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Don’t forget Mike Pence! He was there too. Serving the vital role of hostage.

Anyone else notice Vice President Elf-on-a-Shelf kept blinking “Philippians 4-16” in Morse code throughout the whole 17 minutes?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27983 "2018-12-12T01:18:10Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Don’t forget Mike Pence! He was there too. …

The Elf on the Shelf, is how some described his presence. (He didn’t say one word, did he?)

The “ten minute” theory is being much-discussed this week: Trump resigning ten minutes before his term ends, giving Pence the chance to pardon him.

But…would Pence do it? No doubt he’s currently assuring Trump that he would.

But that doesn’t mean that at that crucial moment, he might not turn to Donald and say “Jesus came to me and told me not to pardon you—sorry.”  
eta: hadn’t seen Happy’s post–my exposure to ‘elf on the shelf’ was on Twitter, today.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/27984 "2018-12-12T01:21:08Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Anyone else notice Vice President Elf-on-a-Shelf kept blinking **“Philippians 4-16”** in Morse code throughout the whole 17 minutes?

“For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity”…???

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