# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1401
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28005 "2018-12-12T06:59:41Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The movie title graphically illustrates how stupid Americans expect other Americans to be: they were going to call it _The Madness of King George III_ but then decided that they better not do that because the potential audience would be reduced by the number of people who would stay away because they had not seen parts one and two. > > Sometimes it feels like we _deserve_ Individual-1. It’s a British film. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28006 "2018-12-12T07:22:28Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > It’s a British film. The US is like this because of them. It is all Pitt-the-Younger-Still’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28007 "2018-12-12T07:51:40Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I think Trump thought he was making some sort of show of power in front of the media. Instead of the win he visioned for himself he got owned. I think that’s obvious. President Dunning-Kroeger was probably giggling to himself about how he was going to embarrass Chuck ‘n’ Nancy on national TeeVee, because, obviously, his stunning wit, intelligence, negotiating prowess and sheer force of masculinity, would carry the day. Instead Chuck ‘n’ Nancy spanked him like a toddler to the point that he just sat there and said, “I WANT A WALL! WAAAAAH!” I was laughing my ass off watching it, then I curled up in the fetal position and rocked back and forth for a few hours when that cold realization hit me once again - this is the fucking president of the country. Jesus, what an embarrassment. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28008 "2018-12-12T08:05:10Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > mmmm-naa, I’d bet Chuck woulda gone more with a “IN THE GOOD NAME OF ALL THAT IS MARTY ALLEN-LIKE IN THIS UNIVERSE, YOU PUKED-UP, BABBLING, WALKING SHITBURGER OF A WHOREMONGER’S GRANDABORTION, YOU WANT A WALL? YEAH, I GOT ONE RIGHT _HERE_ FOR YA” (with obligatory _bras d’honneur_) Thank you for teaching me the English, uh, French, uh… well, the name Anglophones may understand for a _corte de mangas_ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28009 "2018-12-12T08:09:07Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Really? It’s essentially down to Barr and Meadows for CoS? > > ☹ > > Or Ivanka? > > ☹ I bet he’s going to tweet that he should select Roseanne because he knows how loyal she is to him. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28010 "2018-12-12T11:00:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’ll bet Pelosi and Schumer ducked into a private coatroom nearest the exit from the Oval Office and howled hysterically together for a few minutes, before regaining their composure to go speak to the cameras outside the White House. From the NYT article on the meeting: > [@](#): > > After she returned to Capitol Hill, Ms. Pelosi said that for Mr. Trump, the wall was “like a manhood thing for him.” > > “As if manhood could ever be associated with him,” she said. It’s petty but, by God, that’s a solid burn. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28011 "2018-12-12T11:37:21Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I saw that article a few minutes ago. And, yes, I would say that this a good thing to do. Maybe you could post it in the Commendable Things Done by the Trump Administration thread. Even a blind pig can find an acorn once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28012 "2018-12-12T12:45:20Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Thank you for teaching me the English, uh, French, uh… well, the name Anglophones may understand for a _corte de mangas_ 🙂 A Heart of Japanese Comics? Oh, an obscene gesture. Right > **[Bras d'honneur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bras_d%27honneur)** > > A bras d'honneur\[a\] (lit. 'arm of honour'), Iberian slap,\[b\] forearm jerk, Italian salute,\[c\] or Kozakiewicz's gesture,\[d\] is an obscene gesture that communicates moderate to extreme contempt, and is roughly equivalent in meaning to "fuck you" or "up yours", having the same meaning as giving the finger. To make the gesture, an arm is bent in an L-shape, with the fist pointing upwards; the other hand then grips or slaps the biceps of the bent arm as it is emphatically raised to a vertical posit It... ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28013 "2018-12-12T13:23:27Z")
Out of curiosity, what language were you thinking of, when you translated _corte_ as heart? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28014 "2018-12-12T13:27:25Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Out of curiosity, what language were you thinking of, when you translated _corte_ as heart? Perhaps French “Coeur” ? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28015 "2018-12-12T13:37:26Z")
That’s where I went wrong before seeing the responses, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28016 "2018-12-12T13:48:16Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I will go to bed tonight snug as a bug in a rug thinking of “Individual 1” being furious that he can’t fire Pence. On the other hand, the meeting shows that Disney is so confident that Donald won’t finish his term that they’ve already built the Pence figure for the Hall of Presidents. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28017 "2018-12-12T13:56:01Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’ll bet Pelosi and Schumer ducked into a private coatroom nearest the exit from the Oval Office and howled hysterically together for a few minutes, before regaining their composure to go speak to the cameras outside the White House. They should have had an appropriate soundtrack: ♩♬♪ Donald you’re a big mouth makin’ big noise We know you’re goin’ to the pen someday Got a fat pumpkin face, big disgrace Tweetin’ your lies all over the place We will, we will smock you!.. We will, we will smock you!.. ♪♫♩ ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28018 "2018-12-12T14:00:21Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > On the other hand, the meeting shows that Disney is so confident that Donald won’t finish his term that they’ve already built the Pence figure for the Hall of Presidents. Sleepy? Dopey? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28019 "2018-12-12T14:40:11Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The movie title graphically illustrates how stupid Americans expect other Americans to be: they were going to call it _The Madness of King George III_ but then decided that they better not do that because the potential audience would be reduced by the number of people who would stay away because they had not seen parts one and two. > > Sometimes it feels like we _deserve_ Individual-1. Remember that _Harry Potter And The [Philosopher’s Stone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher%27s_stone)_ was re-named because they thought Americans wouldn’t read a book or see a film about philosophers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28020 "2018-12-12T14:56:02Z")
Worth the click: > ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28021 "2018-12-12T15:14:21Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > [in case anyone hasn’t seen it yet I’ll just leave this here…](https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1072561318421516288) From [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2018/12/body-language-questions-about-surreal-oval-office-exchange/577939/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29): > [@](#): > > …And yet he [Pence] did not speak a word—and at least as far as one could judge on TV, he controlled his face, torso, hands, and other instruments of body language so completely as to seem utterly without affect. Almost taxidermied. The bearing that guards practice before duty outside Buckingham Palace appears to have been his goal—which he attained. > … Yes! Taxidermy–that’s what he reminded me of. But not as lifelike. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28022 "2018-12-12T15:17:30Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > He’s so fat (I say this as a not-thin person) he can’t imagine being capable of climbing over it, so therefore no one else could. > > I think he thinks that migrants would genuinely look at it and go “muy alto. No bueno. voy a regresar a mi casa.” That they’d look like a bunch of little kids when their frisbee ends up on a scary neighbor’s roof. All shrug and give each other “oh shucks” looks and go home. Because climbing is hard when you can’t see your own feet. > > It also seems like a super intimidating thing because he’s probably afraid of heights… you know, like stairs. You are obviously omitting some key details about the ultimate wall plan: Barbed wire, searchlights, and machine gun nests. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28023 "2018-12-12T15:18:02Z")
[NBC is chastising Trump, Ivanka and the holy son-in-law](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-kushner-lefrak-could-potentially-benefit-federal-opportunity-zones-n946821) for taking millions in profit from the classification of some of their holdings as economically distressed “opportunity zones”; and for trading access for emoluments. It’s no clear why those particular real-estate lots, some in affluent areas rather than “distressed,” were declared “opportunity zones.” I guess Mnuchin at Treasury had the final say. Trump buddy Richard LeFrak, charged with building The Wall, was also a big beneficiary of the program. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28024 "2018-12-12T15:43:01Z")
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