# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1403
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28045 "2018-12-13T00:19:47Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > While I hate to support anything Trump does, I do want to point out that he only wants to deport Vietnamese refugees who have been convicted of crimes in this country. He is not (yet) talking about deporting those who are living here lawfully for decades. Now I need to go shower. Nah, it’s that piece of shit Donny Douchebag. Of course it’s worse than just deporting criminals. From the Atlantic piece: > [@](#): > > When it first decided to reinterpret the 2008 deal, Donald Trump’s administration argued that only pre-1995 arrivals with criminal convictions were exempt from the agreement’s protection and eligible for deportation. Vietnam initially conceded and accepted some of those immigrants before stiffening its resistance; about a dozen Vietnamese immigrants ended up being deported from the United States. The August decision to change course, reported to a California court in October, appeared to put such moves at least temporarily on ice, **but the latest shift leaves the fate of a larger number of Vietnamese immigrants in doubt. Now all pre-1995 arrivals are exempt from the 2008 agreement’s protection.** ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28046 "2018-12-13T01:26:57Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Cohen just got three years in prison and pledged continued cooperation in investigations. > [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > It’s like Mom always used to say: “The company you keep doesn’t reflect on you in any way whatsoever.” – on OPPOSITE DAY, right? ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28047 "2018-12-13T01:29:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > The Trump administration is now trying to deport refugees. > > From the Viet Nam war. > > [Donald Trump Moves to Deport Vietnam War Refugees - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/12/donald-trump-deport-vietnam-war-refugees/577993/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_term=2018-12-12T19%3A26%3A40) Deport the people who are the very definition of worthy asylum-seekers. Oh, and who have children and grandchildren who vote. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28048 "2018-12-13T02:25:24Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > – on OPPOSITE DAY, right? I had a shitty mom. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28049 "2018-12-13T02:26:45Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > Deport the people who are the very definition of worthy asylum-seekers. Oh, and who have children and grandchildren who vote. and often vote Republican… ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28050 "2018-12-13T13:57:30Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > We will, we will smock you!.. ♪♫♩ Golf clap. Only now I have this earworm stuck in my head. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > From [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2018/12/body-language-questions-about-surreal-oval-office-exchange/577939/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29): > Yes! Taxidermy–that’s what he reminded me of. But not as lifelike. Maybe the Hall of Presidents figure **Steve MB** mentioned earlier was brought in my Disney for a test run. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28051 "2018-12-13T20:17:18Z")
Two as yet unnamed organizations received state and federal subpoenas investigating 9.5 million comments (on net neutrality to the FCC website) that were filed in people’s names without their consent. > [@](#): > > As part of the New York attorney general’s previously announced investigation, the agency in October issued subpoenas to 14 organizations — 11 of which are either politically conservative or related to the telecommunications industry and opposed net neutrality, and three of which supported it. The offices of the attorneys general of both Massachusetts and Washington, DC, are supporting the New York investigation, and also issued subpoenas. Their participation has not been previously reported. > [@](#): > > “What is the Federal Communications Commission hiding?” Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel asked in a dissenting opinion. “\*nstead of providing news organizations with the information requested, in this decision the FCC decides to hide behind Freedom of Information Act exemptions and thwart investigative journalism.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28052 "2018-12-13T20:43:39Z")
It is kind of traditional to include a link with your quotes. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28053 "2018-12-13T21:14:36Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Two as yet unnamed organizations received state and federal subpoenas investigating 9.5 million comments (on net neutrality to the FCC website) that were filed in people’s names without their consent. [Some of whom are dead.](https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-chairman-ajit-pai-admits-russian-interference-in-net-neutrality-debate/) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28054 "2018-12-13T21:41:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It is kind of traditional to include a link with your quotes. I think it’s [Buzzfeed](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kevincollier/feds-investigation-net-neutrality-comments). ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28055 "2018-12-13T21:46:25Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I think it’s [Buzzfeed](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kevincollier/feds-investigation-net-neutrality-comments). T’is. I guess I kind of:rolleyes: forgot. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28056 "2018-12-13T21:54:42Z")
In other news: [US budget deficit hits record $204.9 billion for November](https://www.apnews.com/9aea095139d14801a48b4964cb4ec4e4) > [@](#): > > For the first two months of this budget year, the deficit totals $305.4 billion, up 51.4 percent from the same period last year. The Trump administration is projecting that this year’s deficit will top $1 trillion, reflecting increased government spending and the loss of revenue from a big tax cut. Who could have guessed that increasing spending and lowering taxes would lead to larger deficits? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28057 "2018-12-13T22:26:12Z")
NBC is now reporting that [Trump was the third guy in the room when the AMI hush money payments were being discussed](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-was-room-during-hush-money-discussions-nbc-news-confirms-n947536). Source is murky, but if this is verified, then we have conspiracy to commit campaign finance fraud. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28058 "2018-12-13T22:27:59Z")
~It’s raining, it’s pouring, The old man is smocking.~ What it loses in rhymes, it makes up for in relevance. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28059 "2018-12-13T22:32:18Z")
HuffPost reports that Trump is considering Jared Kushner for Chief of Staff. Newt Gingrich is also reportedly under consideration. > **[Trump Considering Son-In-Law Jared Kushner For Next Chief Of Staff](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-chief-of-staff-jared-kushner_n_5c12c616e4b0f60cfa277b93?o3l=)** > > The president is in the third round of his search for a job not many people seem to want. I think both are fantastic choices and Trump should appoint them both and split the duties between them. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28060 "2018-12-13T22:36:05Z")
[Wall Street Journal: Trump inaugural committee under criminal investigation](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/trump-inauguration-spending-investigation/index.html) WSJ Link - [https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455) > [@](#): > > According to the Journal, sources told the paper that the investigation “partly arises out of materials seized in the federal probe of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s business dealings.” Only.The.Best ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28061 "2018-12-13T22:37:40Z")
Now there is a [criminal investigation](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/trump-inauguration-spending-investigation/index.html) into trump’s inaugural committee. Initial info came from materials seized at Cohen’s office. When it rains, it pours. Welcome to Alcatraz, Donny. ETA: ninja’d! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28062 "2018-12-13T23:24:50Z")
\*We all went down to Brownsville On the muddy river shoreline To get data on the traffic Across the bridge so fine But those eggheads with their notebooks Fell right in and drowned Smocks in the water It’s dire in the slime Smocks on the water Deadmen in the slime\* ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28063 "2018-12-13T23:33:16Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > HuffPost reports that Trump is considering Jared Kushner for Chief of Staff. Newt Gingrich is also reportedly under consideration. > > [Trump Considering Son-In-Law Jared Kushner For Next Chief Of Staff | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-chief-of-staff-jared-kushner_us_5c12c616e4b0f60cfa277b93?o3l) > > I think both are fantastic choices and Trump should appoint them both and split the duties between them. That would be _hilarious_. I don’t think Gingrich would take kindly to coordinating his activities with the pipsqueak son-in-law. It’s like what Gandalf said about Sauron: “he doesn’t share power.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28064 "2018-12-14T00:00:48Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > HuffPost reports that Trump is considering Jared Kushner for Chief of Staff. Newt Gingrich is also reportedly under consideration. > > [Trump Considering Son-In-Law Jared Kushner For Next Chief Of Staff | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-chief-of-staff-jared-kushner_us_5c12c616e4b0f60cfa277b93?o3l) > > I think both are fantastic choices and Trump should appoint them both and split the duties between them. But Jared already has so many other jobs that he’s shitty at. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1402) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1404)