# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1405
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28085 "2018-12-14T03:47:42Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > …To be fair, if criminal justice reform happens, I will have to give some credit to Javanka. AIUI, they were the primary force behind it. > > But otherwise, fuck both of them. Who doesn’t try to make their home livable before they move in? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28086 "2018-12-14T03:50:20Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > [The Droste Effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droste_effect#In_modern_usage) The comic book “Strange Adventures” did that once by featuring a story on the cover about a man reading his own story in the comic book [https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwicgLeJtZ7fAhULP6wKHdKmDzgQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdc.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FStrange\_Adventures\_Vol\_1\_170&psig=AOvVaw14vHqFDJIj6avoUgIToFwl&ust=1544845762116508](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwicgLeJtZ7fAhULP6wKHdKmDzgQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdc.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FStrange_Adventures_Vol_1_170&psig=AOvVaw14vHqFDJIj6avoUgIToFwl&ust=1544845762116508) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28087 "2018-12-14T04:53:20Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > The [casual evil](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/7-year-old-migrant-girl-taken-into-border-patrol-custody-dies-of-dehydration-exhaustion/2018/12/13/8909e356-ff03-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.af85af1c0d86) of this “administration” exceeds my threshold for constant maximum outrage. We cannot be rid of these fucks fast enough. > > (WaPo) > > (emphasis mine) > > Loss for words. This is how the United States handles refugees now. Those are some of the same kinds of people that Trump felt posed a large enough threat to send in the Army. What a jackass he is. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28088 "2018-12-14T11:54:19Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It’s a Mandelbrot Set of criminality…every time you turn up the focus to look closer at a particular crime, you find more smaller but identical crimes attached, and those have more smaller but identical crimes, and THOSE have more smaller but identical crimes, all the way down to infinity. With apologies to Augustus De Morgan: _Big crimes have little crimes within their scope to blight 'em, And little crimes have lesser crimes, and so, ad infinitum. And the great crimes, themselves, in turn, have greater crimes to go on; While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on._ ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28089 "2018-12-14T13:58:17Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > He totally fixed the Middle East. He’s ready for a new challenge. > > To be fair, if criminal justice reform happens, I will have to give some credit to Javanka. AIUI, they were the primary force behind it. > > But otherwise, fuck both of them. At least Jared would finally get the security clearance Kelly denied him. May as well add to the ever-growing shitstorm. Does Trump play fiddle? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28090 "2018-12-14T14:16:25Z")
[Trump, Christie met to discuss chief of staff job: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421355-trump-christie-met-to-discuss-chief-of-staff-job-reports) > [@](#): > > President Trump on Thursday met with former Republican Gov. Chris Christie (N.J.) amid his search for the next White House chief of staff, according to an Axios report. > > A source told Axios that the president is considering Christie because he’s “tough” and “politically-savvy.” > … The question is whether Christie is “savvy” enough to turn down the job, or will he not be able to resist the offer? ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28091 "2018-12-14T14:20:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The question is whether Christie is “savvy” enough to turn down the job, or will he not be able to resist the offer? Those runs to McD’s for the Happy Meals may be irresistible. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28092 "2018-12-14T14:22:54Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > At least Jared would finally get the security clearance Kelly denied him. > > May as well add to the ever-growing shitstorm. Does Trump play fiddle? Funny (well not really). Trump would have been laughed out of the room if he had to _apply_ for security clearance. How many Russian ties? How many friends in the mob? How many extra marital affairs? (blackmail material) How many properties underwater? How many lawsuits? (people angry at him) Trump has more hooks in him than a long line trawler. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28093 "2018-12-14T14:26:18Z")
Double post. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28094 "2018-12-14T14:31:35Z")
> [@](#): > > A source told Axios that the president is considering Christie because he’s “tough” and “politically-savvy.” This is all just a new Mel Brookes movie. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28095 "2018-12-14T14:45:54Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Trump has more hooks in him than a long line trawler. So… everyone’s trolling Trump and he took the bait? I’ve thought that when he wasn’t just being an idiot, _he_ was the one dragging a line. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28096 "2018-12-14T15:06:41Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > How many Russian ties? All of them, I would guess. Every one I have seen him wear is red, so … ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28097 "2018-12-14T15:35:25Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > Those runs to McD’s for the Happy Meals may be irresistible. Christie running? Not going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28098 "2018-12-14T16:05:14Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > So… everyone’s trolling Trump and he took the bait? I’ve thought that when he wasn’t just being an idiot, _he_ was the one dragging a line. Was having a hard time coming up with a metaphor. As far as security clearance goes, Trump has a lot of hooks in him. Hooks that can be pulled by others. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28099 "2018-12-14T16:06:38Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > All of them, I would guess. Every one I have seen him wear is red, so … Very long ties. Many go all the way to Russia. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28100 "2018-12-14T16:30:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > With apologies to Augustus De Morgan: > > _Big crimes have little crimes within their scope to blight 'em, > And little crimes have lesser crimes, and so, ad infinitum. > And the great crimes, themselves, in turn, have greater crimes to go on; > While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on._ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28101 "2018-12-14T16:38:55Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > So… everyone’s trolling Trump and he took the bait? I’ve thought that when he wasn’t just being an idiot, _he_ was the one dragging a line. The only person in the Trump administration who knows what he’s doing is Vladimir Putin. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28102 "2018-12-14T16:42:39Z")
So, Trump had another Terrible Awful Truly-Bad Day (he’s having a lot of those lately). In the last 24 hours: Pelosi said the House will be subpoenaing his tax returns The Senate – yes! – voted to cut off funding for the Saudi’s war in Yemen, repudiating his “anything you do is fine as long as the check clears” foreign policy. There’s a new investigation into shenanigans concerning his inauguration fundraising aka pay-to-play scheme Michael Cohen said he’s lying, and that investigators have proof (duh-duh-duuuhhh!) And nobody wants to be his Chief of Staff except his frienemy Christie, and his idiot son-in-law ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28103 "2018-12-14T17:44:45Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > HuffPost reports that Trump is considering Jared Kushner for Chief of Staff. Newt Gingrich is also reportedly under consideration. > > [Trump Considering Son-In-Law Jared Kushner For Next Chief Of Staff | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-chief-of-staff-jared-kushner_us_5c12c616e4b0f60cfa277b93?o3l) > > I think both are fantastic choices and Trump should appoint them both and split the duties between them. Oooh! Oooh! I’ve got a great idea! I’m surprised that the stable genius himself hasn’t suggested this. The draft a list of 12 MAGAbots, and have then compete in a series of coverups. Each week one candidate is eliminated, until the final one gets to be chief of staff. And you could market the television rights\* of the whole thing to help pay the legal expenses of Trump’s cronies. Week 1: Find a way to blame the misappropriation of inaugural funds on the Democrats. - yes I realize that broadcasting your coverups on television may not be the best legal strategy, but its par for the course with this administration. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28104 "2018-12-14T18:06:31Z")
this struck me as a tad odd > [@"\[DHS](#): > > ([Walls Work | Homeland Security](https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work))"]DHS is committed to building wall and building wall quickly. We are not replacing short, outdated and ineffective wall with similar wall. Instead, under this President we are building a wall that is 30-feet high. > > **FACT** : Prior to President Trump taking office, we have never built wall that high. It sounds too much like “_in Soviet Union, wall build you!_” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1404) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1406)