# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1406
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28105 "2018-12-14T18:17:03Z")
Chris Christie is OUT! > OTOH, though it may make y’all think less of me, honestly, I could use a raise right now and since it looks like nobody wants the damned job… gonna throw my hat into the ring. Wish me luck! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28106 "2018-12-14T18:18:14Z")
[Christie says “Oh, hell no.”](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421418-christie-declines-chief-of-staff-role) Well, maybe not in those words, but he was thinking them. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28107 "2018-12-14T18:19:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > this struck me as a tad odd > > It sounds too much like “_in Soviet Union, wall build you!_” That was not written by a native English speaker. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28108 "2018-12-14T18:22:54Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Oooh! Oooh! I’ve got a great idea! I’m surprised that the stable genius himself hasn’t suggested this. > > The draft a list of 12 MAGAbots, and have then compete in a series of coverups. Each week one candidate is eliminated, until the final one gets to be chief of staff. And you could market the television rights\* of the whole thing to help pay the legal expenses of Trump’s cronies. The NY Post [beat you to it](http://firewhenreadypottery.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/SURVIVOR-white-house-edition1.jpg), although not limited to Chief of Staff. In fact, we’re now in [season 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dha73glW0AUyso8.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28109 "2018-12-14T18:25:45Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Christie says “Oh, hell no.”](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421418-christie-declines-chief-of-staff-role) > > Well, maybe not in those words, but he was thinking them. I honestly didn’t think that Christie was that smart. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28110 "2018-12-14T18:26:41Z")
It’s probably been discussed before, here on these boards and (surely!) in the media, but I have never understood this belief in the power of a magical wall to stop all illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Let’s say this wall gets completely built to Trump’s satisfaction. How does this wall stop people who go around it, by sea, and enter the US from either coast? How does this wall stop people who go over it, by air, and land anywhere? How does this wall stop people who enter Canada by whatever method, then slip into the US via the northern border? How does this wall stop people who have the proper papers for ‘normal’ entry, whether the papers are genuine or forged? How does this wall defeat greed and bribery and corruption, all human nature, that allows entry because the border guards were persuaded to turn their heads at the right time? Border security is a mix of things, all acting in concert, and way more complex than the jackass who keeps braying about a stupid wall probably grasps. Probably he has mentioned other factors, but every time I hear him on the subject of immigration, I hear him scream about the wall and nothing else (it seems). I expect it from him, but of all those echoing him…I just don’t get it. I guess, really, there’s nothing to get? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28111 "2018-12-14T18:30:52Z")
Because the fear of brown people has been so inflamed by our moronic leaders, that the idiots who follow them believe anything they say as long as it results in less brown people coming here. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28112 "2018-12-14T18:35:03Z")
Gossip. [Apprentice Staffer: Trump was a ‘Speed freak’ who crushed up Adderall and snorted it](https://www.sourcepolitics.com/former-apprentice-staffer-trump-was-a-speed-freak/) > [@](#): > > A former staffer on Trump’s Apprentice television show, Noel Casler, who is now a comedian, told a crowd during a recent performance on stage that during his six seasons on the show, he witnessed some pretty interesting things… > > “He crushes up his Adderall and he sniffs it because he can’t read, so he gets really nervous when he has to read the cue cards.” > > He claims Trump also invited teen beauty pageant contestants up to his suite and said they better come if they wanted to win. [puts on proofreader’s hat] ‘If Trump had a cooking show they’d caught the douchebag diet.’ I watched the video after reading this line. Whoever wrote the article wrote ‘caught’, when s/he should have written ‘call it’. ETA: My friend who pasted the link to the article said, ‘Bitch, I’m a Rock Star. I know a dope fiend when I see one!’ She really is a rock star. She sang with Pink Floyd, and currently has her own tour. . ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28113 "2018-12-14T18:48:51Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > With apologies to Augustus De Morgan: > > _Big crimes have little crimes within their scope to blight 'em, > And little crimes have lesser crimes, and so, ad infinitum. > And the great crimes, themselves, in turn, have greater crimes to go on; > While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on._ Beautiful! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28114 "2018-12-14T19:36:25Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > It’s probably been discussed before, here on these boards and (surely!) in the media, but I have never understood this belief in the power of a magical wall to stop all illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Let’s say this wall gets completely built to Trump’s satisfaction. How does this wall stop people who go around it, by sea, and enter the US from either coast? How does this wall stop people who go over it, by air, and land anywhere? How does this wall stop people who enter Canada by whatever method, then slip into the US via the northern border? How does this wall stop people who have the proper papers for ‘normal’ entry, whether the papers are genuine or forged? They know this. Most of their followers don’t, but you can bet the politicians pushing for a wall know it will do next to nothing to reduce illegal immigration. They’ve already hinted at step 2, but here’s what it will be after we have a wall: “The wall cannot be effective under our terrible Democrat immigration laws”. This will then result in getting rid of VISA’s, ending asylum and refugee programs, and cutting way back on legal immigration. Only then does a wall start to matter. Never doubt their real goal here is to try to rewind the browning of America. They fear their precious white culture is fading away. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28115 "2018-12-14T20:05:44Z")
> [@simster](#): > > More like Russian Nesting Dolls. Russian Nesting Cuckoos. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28116 "2018-12-14T20:06:23Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > It’s probably been discussed before, here on these boards and (surely!) in the media, but I have never understood this belief in the power of a magical wall to stop all illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Let’s say this wall gets completely built to Trump’s satisfaction. How does this wall stop people who go around it, by sea, and enter the US from either coast? How does this wall stop people who go over it, by air, and land anywhere? How does this wall stop people who enter Canada by whatever method, then slip into the US via the northern border? How does this wall stop people who have the proper papers for ‘normal’ entry, whether the papers are genuine or forged? How does this wall defeat greed and bribery and corruption, all human nature, that allows entry because the border guards were persuaded to turn their heads at the right time? > > Border security is a mix of things, all acting in concert, and way more complex than the jackass who keeps braying about a stupid wall probably grasps. Probably he has mentioned other factors, but every time I hear him on the subject of immigration, I hear him scream about the wall and nothing else (it seems). I expect it from him, but of all those echoing him…I just don’t get it. I guess, really, there’s nothing to get? There’s a reason that the Republican congress didn’t fund it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28117 "2018-12-14T20:28:31Z")
[Christie will stay out](https://www.apnews.com/626c695e8ae94837bb836de4ec842c3f). ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28118 "2018-12-14T20:43:09Z")
I am really pleased [this](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-house/big-washington-clean-up-bill-leads-house-democrats-list-idUSKBN1OD2K0) will be the very first bill sponsored by the new Democratic House in January 2019: (Reuters) > [@](#): > > When the Democrats take over the U.S. House of Representatives in three weeks, their first order of business is expected to be a wide-ranging bill about political corruption, voter disenfranchisement and cleaning up campaign finance. It won’t pass, of course, not with a Republican-majority senate. But Bill H.R. 1 will act as a constant touchstone for Democrats as they whittle away at the cancer of corruption, and force Republicans to repudiate these laudable goals again and again, in public. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28119 "2018-12-14T21:27:25Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I honestly didn’t think that Christie was that smart. Wow. Me neither. This is sort of like, “Even [Mikey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEXzx-TINc)won’t eat it.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28120 "2018-12-14T21:33:52Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > It’s probably been discussed before, here on these boards and (surely!) in the media, but I have never understood this belief in the power of a magical wall to stop all illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Let’s say this wall gets completely built to Trump’s satisfaction. How does this wall stop people who go around it, by sea, and enter the US from either coast? How does this wall stop people who go over it, by air, and land anywhere? How does this wall stop people who enter Canada by whatever method, then slip into the US via the northern border? How does this wall stop people who have the proper papers for ‘normal’ entry, whether the papers are genuine or forged? How does this wall defeat greed and bribery and corruption, all human nature, that allows entry because the border guards were persuaded to turn their heads at the right time? > > Border security is a mix of things, all acting in concert, and way more complex than the jackass who keeps braying about a stupid wall probably grasps. Probably he has mentioned other factors, but every time I hear him on the subject of immigration, I hear him scream about the wall and nothing else (it seems). I expect it from him, but of all those echoing him…I just don’t get it. I guess, really, there’s nothing to get? Well, you’re obviously out of the running for the Chief of Staff job. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28121 "2018-12-14T21:38:01Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Wow. Me neither. > > This is sort of like, “Even [Mikey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEXzx-TINc)won’t eat it.” Wasn’t the schtick that Mikey wouldn’t eat anything? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28122 "2018-12-14T21:44:17Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Wasn’t the schtick that Mikey wouldn’t eat anything? 😕 Yes. “He won’t eat it, he hates everything.” Cite: my name is Mike and I grew up in the 70s. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28123 "2018-12-14T21:48:58Z")
This feels like it might be another little gift from Cohen before he goes away: > **[Ivanka Trump was involved in negotiations between inaugural committee, Trump...](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421458-ivanka-trump-was-involved-in-negotiations-for-how-much-inaugural/)** > > Ivanka Trump was involved in negotiations between the Trump Organization and President Trump’s inaugural committee over the price of venue rentals at the Trump hotel in Washington, D.C.,… Possible self-dealing between the Inauguration Committee and the Trump Organization. Given Trump’s history of self-dealing, I would expect this one to prove out. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28124 "2018-12-14T22:09:24Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > This feels like it might be another little gift from Cohen before he goes away: > > [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421458-ivanka-trump-was-involved-in-negotiations-for-how-much-inaugural](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421458-ivanka-trump-was-involved-in-negotiations-for-how-much-inaugural) > > Possible self-dealing between the Inauguration Committee and the Trump Organization. Given Trump’s history of self-dealing, I would expect this one to prove out. From that piece: “Peter Mirijanian, a spokesman for Ivanka Trump’s ethics lawyer” ethics lawyer? [“ethics lawyer” Google search](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22ethics+lawyer%22) Learn something new everyday if you’re lucky. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1405) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1407)