# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1409
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28165 "2018-12-16T07:09:38Z")
I think they prefer the term “mouthpiece.” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28166 "2018-12-16T14:12:31Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > WaPost has a good summary of the current state of the [ClusterFuck](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mounting-legal-threats-surround-trump-as-nearly-every-organization-he-has-led-is-under-investigation/2018/12/15/4cfb4482-ffbb-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.1f82cd89cefb). > [@WaPo](#): > > On Capitol Hill this week, weary Senate Republicans scrambled away from reporters to avoid questions about Trump and his longtime fixer Michael Cohen — and Cohen’s courtroom assertion that he had been covering up Trump’s “dirty deeds” when he paid off two women who claimed they had affairs with the president before he was elected. The light’s come on and the cockroaches are disappearing under the refrigerator. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28167 "2018-12-16T14:40:04Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > The light’s come on and the cockroaches are disappearing under the refrigerator. Call them guys with the fork lift and let’s get that refrigerator outta there! (If this were an episode of _Law & Order_– any one of them-- there would be a body or three inside that fridge. Just sayin’.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28168 "2018-12-16T17:16:28Z")
This cheese could be salvaged. Maybe some. This leftover chili, at least two weeks, not even going to look, fungal jungle, most likely. Corpse seems to be OK. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28169 "2018-12-16T17:28:12Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > They know this. Most of their followers don’t, but you can bet the politicians pushing for a wall know it will do next to nothing to reduce illegal immigration. > > They’ve already hinted at step 2, but here’s what it will be after we have a wall: “The wall cannot be effective under our terrible Democrat immigration laws”. > > This will then result in getting rid of VISA’s, ending asylum and refugee programs, and cutting way back on legal immigration. **Only then does a wall start to matter.** > > Never doubt their real goal here is to try to rewind the browning of America. They fear their precious white culture is fading away. Bolding mine: Yeah, to keep _us_ in. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28170 "2018-12-16T22:17:47Z")
I like Sam Bee’s latest moniker for президент Trump, in dignified caps: PRES. FAUNTLEROY P. GOLDSCHITTER ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28171 "2018-12-16T22:45:45Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Well now I’m dying to know what the other Spinal Tap references could be. Wall along the southern border that’s only 18-inches high due to typographical error? Trump brags at a cabinet meeting about a report filed by his interns that claims he cultivates “an unbelievably sexy environment?” Confirmation that he got lost on the way to the dining room at Mar-a-Lago? Didn’t one of the drummers spontaneously combust? ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28172 "2018-12-16T22:57:12Z")
You know, several, you know, dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It’s just not really widely reported. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28173 "2018-12-16T23:28:52Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > You know, several, you know, dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It’s just not really widely reported. Pshaw, the real question is: how many people have choked on somebody else’s vomit? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28174 "2018-12-17T02:39:07Z")
I did do [this](http://home.blarg.net/~sydde/SpTr.JPG) some while back, but nobody was impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28175 "2018-12-17T03:12:30Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I did do [this](http://home.blarg.net/~sydde/SpTr.JPG) some while back, but nobody was impressed. Don’t mock Spinal Tap! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28176 "2018-12-17T07:41:38Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I did do [this](http://home.blarg.net/~sydde/SpTr.JPG) some while back, but nobody was impressed. And you wonder why nobody likes you? I keed, I keed 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28177 "2018-12-17T08:07:05Z")
“Nobody” is a slight exaggeration. Very slight. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28178 "2018-12-17T17:50:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [this one](https://youtu.be/I-BYzaDwNoE) seems obvious. I think this is probably another contender: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dAargSCXQaQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Spinal Tap - Derek Smalls Airport Security") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAargSCXQaQ) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28179 "2018-12-17T18:15:35Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > You know, several, you know, dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It’s just not really widely reported. Just more evidence that the media are the enemy of the people. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28180 "2018-12-17T20:39:43Z")
[hmmm](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-suddenly-expresses-deep-concern-about-conditions-in-nations-prisons) _… In addition to blasting the conditions inside the nation’s prisons, Trump also questioned whether “putting someone in jail for one or two felonies serves any purpose.” “I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately,” he said. “Prison solves nothing.”_ Borowitz ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28181 "2018-12-17T20:41:19Z")
Pssst … satire … ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28182 "2018-12-17T20:45:25Z")
psst – yes, I know, that is why I put the “Borowitz” under there ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28183 "2018-12-17T21:09:03Z")
Trump is considering pardoning a Green Beret who was arrested for committing murder in Afghanistan. The guy he is charged with murdering is, according to the right wing, a bomb maker. I don’t know whether he was or not, but the US command had let the guy go, and the Green Beret was ordered to escort him back to his home. Instead, the Green Beret took him out and shot him. That’s murder. That’s a war crime. But since Fox News is arguing for his release, the Orange Cheeto is thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28184 "2018-12-17T21:24:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump is considering pardoning a Green Beret who was arrested for committing murder in Afghanistan. […] But since Fox News is arguing for his release, the Orange Cheeto is thinking about it. What’s bizarrest is that it appears [the accused was not in trouble until he bragged about the killing on Fox](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/16/us/politics/major-matt-golsteyn-trump.html): > [@](#): > > […] Major Golsteyn […] during a job interview with the C.I.A. in 2011, volunteered that he had killed a suspected bomb maker a year earlier in Afghanistan. The Army opened an investigation but did not charge Major Golsteyn, instead stripping him of a Silver Star and an elite Special Forces tab, and issuing a letter of reprimand. > > But then, five years later, in an appearance on Fox News, Major Golsteyn again said he had shot the Afghan. The Army opened a second investigation in late 2016, and charged Major Golsteyn with murder last week. […] > > Major Golsteyn and another American soldier, concerned that the man, if released, would kill American troops or report that the tribal leader was working with the Americans, took him off the base, shot and killed him, and buried his remains in a shallow grave, the documents say. > > Later that night, Major Golsteyn and two other soldiers dug up the remains, brought them back to their base and burned them in a pit used to dispose of trash […] :dubious: Uh, yeah, doesn’t sound murdery at all. > [@](#): > > Two years later, in 2013, the Army closed the case without charging Major Golsteyn. […] > > In November 2016, Major Golsteyn appeared in a Fox News special report. Asked by the anchor Bret Baier whether he had killed the suspected bomb maker, he replied, “Yes.” > > One Defense Department official said on Sunday that Major Golsteyn’s admission had forced the Army to reopen the case. On Thursday, Major Golsteyn received written notification from the Army that he was being charged with premeditated murder. If convicted, he could face the death penalty. […] > > Military justice scholars said the case was reminiscent of when President Richard M. Nixon tried to intervene in the case of William L. Calley Jr., a former Army officer convicted of killing 22 unarmed South Vietnamese civilians in the My Lai massacre. Other presidents, though, have kept their distance. […] > > Abdul Karim Attal, a member of the Helmand provincial council, said in a telephone interview on Sunday that a pardon for Major Golsteyn would “give logic to those who say they are waging war against the Americans in Afghanistan because the Americans are not even committed to their own justice system.” […] > > “This is not the only case where they made a blunder; there are even more serious cases being committed by American soldiers in Afghanistan, like the one where a soldier killed two families, including women and children, and then burned them,” said Bashir Ahmad Shakir, another member of the provincial council. > > He added: “For a strong country, there should be a strong code of law and order. If you break that code, it means you have no faith in justice and then the people of Afghanistan will doubt you when you ask people to adhere to principles of justice and human rights.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1408) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1410)