# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28245 "2018-12-20T07:46:28Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Okay, so I saw this post and thought to myself, “Hang on, that can’t possibly be right…” So I went looking.

I actually was almost gaslit by the lack of coverage, questioning whether or not I’d somehow missed that this was already a known thing. All I ever saw was an AMA on Reddit by the Wapo reporter who took him down.

The top question should have been: Why isn’t this the top news story on Wapo?

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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28246 "2018-12-20T09:43:16Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Sure. He played a couple big cards today.
> 
> Appeased Putin and Erdogan, threw a bone to Manafort’s tormentor, weakened the Western Alliance, betrayed the Kurds (to our everlasting shame), flipped the bird to his senior military advisors, distracted from all the probes and created general chaos. What are a few bodies and pissed off allies compared to a couple days’ distraction from his many messes?

This is what happens when an Orange-a-tan is elected to be a leader of a country. He is a buffoon, a clear and present danger. This latest just shows how disconnected he is from reality, other than his own.

What word do we have on the condescension to Russia/Putin.  
Trump is playing kids games at Chuck E Cheese while Putin is playing Master Chess.

As a life-long “conservative/GOP” believer. I am disgusted with their behavior for the last few decades. So much so that I voted for (D) in the mid terms, and will do so if this keeps up.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28247 "2018-12-20T14:04:02Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> What a self-centered ass! He certainly deserves to be behind bars.

That’s a thought I haven’t had before: Who is it that decides which prison a convict gets sent too? A burglar who maybe has a half-dozen offenses gets sent to some shit-hole while a white collar grifter who defrauded thousands of people gets sent to a minimum security country club with weekend privileges.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Whenever Trump does something out of the blue and inexplicable, just ask “How does this affect Russia?”

It’s the new “follow the money.”

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28248 "2018-12-20T14:12:27Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Who is it that decides which prison a convict gets sent too?

When Mar a Lago gets taken away, put the sign up at Gitmo and make it exclusive for the Trumps & Associates…

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28249 "2018-12-20T14:41:19Z")

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Putin has issued a statement praising the decision to withdraw from Syria.

It’s like he’s just trolling us all now.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28250 "2018-12-20T16:03:46Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> When Mar a Lago gets taken away, put the sign up at Gitmo and make it exclusive for the Trumps & Associates…

Yeah, they will be happy about that in Havana, to have such an honored guest on the island. Might just bomb the base to sawdust. Great way to gin up a war with Cuba.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28251 "2018-12-20T16:12:44Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Could the Syrian withdrawal be a bid ti divert attention away from all the probes on him now, Russian and otherwise? It would be just like Chump to endanger lives for his own benefit.

Trump is many things, but I doubt this even entered his mind. He’s never one for subtlety.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28252 "2018-12-20T16:25:57Z")

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The Partay [appears to be making moves to protect CFSG](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-move-to-protect-trump-from-primary-challenges/) from a primary challenge. NH Partay leaders want to amend bylaws to make their nomination an internal org vote, while the SC Rs are considering canceling the primary altogether.

Welcome to democracy.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28253 "2018-12-20T16:43:11Z")

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Meanwhile, Democrats are saying “oh pleeze oh pleeze…do everything you can to make sure Trump is on the ballot.” It would be a Democrat dream to run against the Unindicted Co-Conspirator.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28254 "2018-12-20T16:50:13Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> When Mar a Lago gets taken away, put the sign up at Gitmo and make it exclusive for the Trumps & Associates…

Maybe Trump should be locked up in a prison with a golf course. His extra punishment could be that he’s not allowed to use a golf cart and all his scores must be accurately reported in the news.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28255 "2018-12-20T16:57:04Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Individual-1 to CNN, 10 years ago:
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> “I know more about campaign finance than anybody.”
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> [https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1075590951274463236?s=19](https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1075590951274463236?s=19)
> 
> Ruh roh.

Trump is confusing bribing politicians and DA’s with campaign finance.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28256 "2018-12-20T17:10:53Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Meanwhile, Democrats are saying “oh pleeze oh pleeze…do everything you can to make sure Trump is on the ballot.” It would be a Democrat dream to run against the Unindicted Co-Conspirator.

No, we aren’t that delusional. We know Trump voters don’t care about his crimes. He is as popular today as he was before the election.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28257 "2018-12-20T17:16:47Z")

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You’re absolutely right. But any candidate would love to run against an opponent whose popularity is locked in at the low 40%’s.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28258 "2018-12-20T17:33:40Z")

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[**Ex-Trump social media director: I said ‘oh no’ when Trump figured out how to tweet**](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422260-ex-trump-social-media-director-i-said-oh-no-when-i-realized-trump)

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> …  
> Justin McConney served as the director of social media for the Trump Organization from 2011 until 2017 and originally drafted and sent all of Trump’s tweets for him, until one day in 2013 when he said he was surprised when he saw a tweet come straight from Trump.
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> “The moment I found out Trump could tweet himself was comparable to the moment in ‘Jurassic Park’ when Dr. Grant realized that velociraptors could open doors,” McConney told Politico in an interview. "I was like, ‘Oh no.’ "  
> …

😃

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28259 "2018-12-20T18:00:59Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> You’re absolutely right. But any candidate would love to run against an opponent whose popularity is locked in at the low 40%’s.

Bill Clinton & Obama were at low 40%'s approval rating at this point in their 1st terms.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28260 "2018-12-20T18:05:22Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Bill Clinton & Obama were at low 40%'s approval rating at this point in their 1st terms.

But they weren’t locked in. Trump has hardly ever been above it.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28261 "2018-12-20T18:06:43Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Apologies for copying from my blog but…
> 
> [url=[https://thehill.com/policy/defense/422040-trump-signals-us-withdrawal-from-syria](https://thehill.com/policy/defense/422040-trump-signals-us-withdrawal-from-syria)]  
> Russia wants to preserve a chaotic Middle East. They don’t want Iran to win and take everything over, Israel to rid themselves of the Palestinians, or anything else that might achieve regional stability. They are largely happy with the status quo. But they are willing to let their allies take over Syria, since the country has collapsed and isn’t useful to anyone anymore, and it brings Turkey into the fold.

I disagree with this portion of your otherwise very good analysis. I think Russia’s primary goal in Syria continues to be to put down the rebellion and the Kurds so as to keep their puppet Al-Assad in power, and keep their naval base in Tartus intact.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28262 "2018-12-20T18:18:46Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Trump has hardly ever been above it.

Or anything else, really. 😃

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28263 "2018-12-20T18:26:37Z")

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LOL, Individual-1 has decided he doesn’t want to sign the funding bill. 😃

Trump’s Shutdown, just in time for Christmas!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28264 "2018-12-20T18:37:09Z")

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Dow below 23k.

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