# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28425 "2018-12-23T01:33:17Z")

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I rather imagine that there are any number of well-armed men down around the brown-people border who would jump at the chance to protect their [DEL]führer[/DEL] hero. And since they wouldn’t be bound by Secret Service protocols, they’d be _even better_ at protecting him than what he’s getting now. Nosiree bob, they’ll make sure no suspicious-looking person gets anywhere near him!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28426 "2018-12-23T01:57:27Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Boo. Fucking. Hoo.
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> [**Trump cancels Mar-a-Lago Christmas trip over shutdown**](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422617-trump-cancels-mar-a-lago-christmas-trip-over-shutdown)  
> My bold.
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> Yeah, he’ll go down there after he whines and pouts a bit about the huge sacrifice he’s making.
> 
> And P.S.:  
> What would he do if these agents that are supposed to accompany him to Florida refused to work without pay? Or for that matter, the ones who protect him every day?

From the link.

> [@](#):
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> “Due to the shutdown, President Trump will remain in Washington, D.C. and the first lady will return from Florida so they can spend Christmas together,”

I’ll bet she’s _pissed._

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28427 "2018-12-23T02:06:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Anne of Green Goebbels.

FTW

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28428 "2018-12-23T02:31:59Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Ann Coulter’s theory appears to be that none of the children separated from their parents at the border could have had any _genuine_ emotion about the separation. The only way they could have wept is if they were prompted to do so by a “script.”

Well, hell, it’s not like those illegal spawn are human beings like us, amirite? They’re all just dumb soulless animals out to destroy Real Americans, got no decent emotions under their cunning facades.

/s

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28429 "2018-12-23T02:34:21Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I rather imagine that there are any number of well-armed men down around the brown-people border who would jump at the chance to protect their [DEL]führer[/DEL] hero. And since they wouldn’t be bound by Secret Service protocols, they’d be _even better_ at protecting him than what he’s getting now. Nosiree bob, **they’ll make sure no suspicious-looking person gets anywhere near him!**

Does that include the groundskeepers and service staff?

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28430 "2018-12-23T02:58:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> From the link.
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> I’ll bet she’s _pissed._

I hope so. She doesn’t seem very much nicer than her gross husband, if at all. I hope they are both pissed and that he never knows another moment of peace, happiness, or contentment as long as he lives.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28431 "2018-12-23T03:08:18Z")

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Rather than shut down the USA government over a 5,000,000,000 dollar wall along the US Mexico border, why not just build a 50,000 wall around Mar-a-Largo and call it a day?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28432 "2018-12-23T03:31:48Z")

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How about an air tight dome?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28433 "2018-12-23T04:27:01Z")

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‘Like many other simple-hearted souls, it was [his] pet vanity to believe [he] was endowed with a talent for dark and mysterious diplomacy, and [he] loved to contemplate [his] most transparent devices as marvels of low cunning.’

- Mark Twain, _The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer_

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28434 "2018-12-23T04:58:41Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> “The bone spurs of the high heeled boooooy!”

and another customized lyric for Trump…

> [@](#):
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> All and all you’re just another prick with no wall

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28435 "2018-12-23T05:08:43Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> I hope so. She doesn’t seem very much nicer than her gross husband, if at all. I hope they are both pissed and that he never knows another moment of peace, happiness, or contentment as long as he lives.

She just needs to #BeBetter

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28436 "2018-12-23T07:00:26Z")

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The Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal has finally turned on Trump. I think this signals the beginning of the end of his support.

It’s behind a paywall but the headline of this piece of the WSJ Editorial Board says it all:

**The Mattis Repercussions**  
_Why Trump’s handling of Syria and the Pentagon this week is so damaging._

> **[Opinion | The Mattis Repercussions](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mattis-repercussions-11545436055?mod=hp_opin_pos1)**
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> Why Trump’s handling of Syria and the Pentagon this week is so damaging.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28437 "2018-12-23T07:09:02Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Does that include the groundskeepers and service staff?

Best not take any chances (they **could** be MS-13 in disguise).

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28438 "2018-12-23T07:22:34Z")

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Who the fuck is MS-13 (yeah, I know who they are) and why didn’t I hear about them until Trump? Other than they aren’t in Chicago and I don’t give two shits about LA.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28439 "2018-12-23T11:58:12Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Boo. Fucking. Hoo.Boo. Fucking. Hoo.
> 
> Trump cancels Mar-a-Lago Christmas trip over shutdown

My God. Trump actually learned something from [Christie](https://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/width620/img/new_jersey_opinion/photo/gov-chris-christie-and-family-on-closed-island-beach-state-park-in-nj-a2451fe44eafa494.jpg).

> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Does that include the groundskeepers and service staff?

I’m picturing them daubbed with ‘groundskeeper’ or ‘housekeeping’ on their uniforms. Kind of like where farmers would paint ‘cow’ on their animals during deer season.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28440 "2018-12-23T12:41:15Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> The Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal has finally turned on Trump. I think this signals the beginning of the end of his support.

They’ve been pretty critical of him all along, especially policies they see as bad for business.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28441 "2018-12-23T13:24:24Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Does that include the groundskeepers and service staff?

Trump won’t furlough the groundskeeper, will he?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28442 "2018-12-23T13:32:29Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Maybe I misread it, but it sure seemed like snark to me.

It was not intended to be. I know about the spectrum myself, and was trying to get the point across that there may be other reasons than his being a child to leave him alone. I’d rather not even say his name, and I haven’t.

> [@](#):
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> I have little sympathy for Melania for her own situation. But I do respect that she really does seem to be doing her best for her son.

Absolutely, and her own decisions and actions need to be considered in that light.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28443 "2018-12-23T13:47:56Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> The Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal has finally turned on Trump. I think this signals the beginning of the end of his support.
> 
> It’s behind a paywall but the headline of this piece of the WSJ Editorial Board says it all:
> 
> **The Mattis Repercussions**  
> _Why Trump’s handling of Syria and the Pentagon this week is so damaging._
> 
> [https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mattis-repercussions-11545436055?mod=hp\_opin\_pos1](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mattis-repercussions-11545436055?mod=hp_opin_pos1)

I’ll believe it when I see criticism coming from the Fox News channel, which is what really matters.

It seems that, contrary to some of my most dire predictions, Mueller’s investigation will been seen to the end. But even at this very late stage in the Mueller investigation, there’s still quite obviously very serious discussions within the administration about politicizing the Department of Justice. It’s clear that Matt Whitaker isn’t going to recuse himself from the investigation, despite being basically told that his involvement would represent an ethical conflict of interests. It’s further clear that William Barr isn’t a fan of Mueller’s investigation either. While it might be too late to stop Mueller’s fact finding mission, it might not be too late to politicize the DoJ and undermine the rule of law. We can only hope that whatever is released in the report is devastating to Trump and his GOP enablers.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28444 "2018-12-23T14:11:29Z")

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[DONALD TRUMP, INCREASINGLY ISOLATED AND ANGRY, IS RETREATING TO WATCH MORE TV THAN EVER](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-increasingly-isolated-and-angry-retreating-watch-more-tv-ever-1269643)

The gist of the article is covered in the headline. What I came here to post was this comment that was on the article: ‘The people that voted for Trump remind me when my parents purchased a timeshare in Alcapulco.’

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