# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1428
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28545 "2018-12-25T19:19:59Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > They’re not trying to defend Trump, they’re trying to defend their own ego. As long as they can convince themselves that Trump is doing something good, anything at all, it means that they don’t have to admit making a mistake in supporting him. That’s a lot of it. But we can’t forget that they where stupid/racist enough to vote for him in the first place. Some of these idiots will believe anything he says. “Money saved from the Gov shut down will build the wall”:rolleyes: Considering trumps business acumen, he may believe that himself. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28546 "2018-12-25T20:49:32Z")
Donald Scrooge [says that “many” federal workers have told him they want to go without pay until he gets his wall.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-bizarrely-claims-many-federal-workers-want-go-without-paychecks-gets-wall/) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28547 "2018-12-25T20:54:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Donald Scrooge [says that “many” federal workers have told him they want to go without pay until he gets his wall.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-bizarrely-claims-many-federal-workers-want-go-without-paychecks-gets-wall/) WHAT??? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28548 "2018-12-25T21:07:32Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Is it online? Do you have a link? Not what **MikeF** mentioned but, Propublica is doing an ongoing project with NPR called [Trump Inc](https://www.propublica.org/series/trump-inc) which does a deep dive into the “family businesses” mc ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28549 "2018-12-25T21:20:02Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Is it online? Do you have a link? It’s really fascinating. Highly recommended: > **[Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html)** > > The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28550 "2018-12-25T21:24:17Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > Not what **MikeF** mentioned but, Propublica is doing an ongoing project with NPR called [Trump Inc](https://www.propublica.org/series/trump-inc) which does a deep dive into the “family businesses” > > mc > [@BlankSlate](#): > > It’s really fascinating. Highly recommended: > > [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html) Thanks to both of you. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28551 "2018-12-25T21:51:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Donald Scrooge [says that “many” federal workers have told him they want to go without pay until he gets his wall.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-bizarrely-claims-many-federal-workers-want-go-without-paychecks-gets-wall/) I listened to to the whole 9:13 video and man, it’s hard to listen to him. He contradicts himself constantly. He leaves thoughts unfinished regularly. At his best he barely makes sense at all and a good portion of the time he does he’s also lying. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28552 "2018-12-25T22:27:38Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > ICE is apparently dumping released immigrants onto the streets of El Paso with no food or shelter. > [https://thehill.com/latino/422795-greyhound-sheltered-migrants-in-buses-after-ice-left-them-at-station-police-say](https://thehill.com/latino/422795-greyhound-sheltered-migrants-in-buses-after-ice-left-them-at-station-police-say) I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this is being done purposefully. The expectation may be that said immigrants will steal loaves of bread to feed their starving children, and similar small crimes of desperation. Then Trump and his enablers can ‘tut-tut’ about les miserables: the ‘Criminal Hoards who are Pouring Over Our Border,’ etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28553 "2018-12-25T22:41:33Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > I finally got around to reading the NYT article on the Trump family and their money. Its definitely worth the time it takes to read it. His company should be called **Trump Smoke and Mirrors**. Emphasis mine: You mean Smock and Mockers? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28554 "2018-12-25T22:53:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Donald Scrooge [says that “many” federal workers have told him they want to go without pay until he gets his wall.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-bizarrely-claims-many-federal-workers-want-go-without-paychecks-gets-wall/) :dubious: Really. NAME THEM, MOTHERFUCKER. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28555 "2018-12-25T23:00:18Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > :dubious: Really. > > NAME THEM, MOTHERFUCKER. There are many names, some of the greatest names, very respected in terms of worker. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28556 "2018-12-25T23:21:42Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > :dubious: Really. > > NAME THEM, MOTHERFUCKER. Joe McCarthy has the list at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28557 "2018-12-25T23:54:35Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > :dubious: Really. > > NAME THEM, MOTHERFUCKER. > [@Smapti](#): > > There are many names, some of the greatest names, very respected in terms of worker. I really like “in terms of worker” but I think it should have been “There are many names, a great many number of names; great, many- respected names, very respected names in terms of worker.” ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28558 "2018-12-25T23:54:47Z")
For the first time in his life, Trump is experiencing serious push back. For him, the default position when all else fails is to make up a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28559 "2018-12-25T23:57:46Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > For the first time in his life, Trump is experiencing serious push back. For him, the default position when all else fails is to make up a lie. And to push back, in his own words, _harder_. Let’s see how he does that with no strength and no weight. I say: don’t let up Dems. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28560 "2018-12-26T00:40:01Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > And to push back, in his own words, _harder_. Let’s see how he does that with no strength and no weight. I say: don’t let up Dems. Absolutely. They must not give in. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28561 "2018-12-26T01:25:52Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I listened to to the whole 9:13 video and man, it’s hard to listen to him. He contradicts himself constantly. He leaves thoughts unfinished regularly. At his best he barely makes sense at all and a good portion of the time he does he’s also lying. Eerily familiar: > [@Star Trek](#): > > **Spock:** Captain, the speech follows no logical pattern. > **Kirk:** Random sentences strung together. > **McCoy:** He looks drugged, Jim. Almost at a cataleptic state. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28562 "2018-12-26T02:04:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Donald Scrooge [says that “many” federal workers have told him they want to go without pay until he gets his wall.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-bizarrely-claims-many-federal-workers-want-go-without-paychecks-gets-wall/) What worries me is that someone will actually believe that lie. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > :dubious: Really. > > NAME THEM, MOTHERFUCKER. You beat me to it. Yeah, without names, this is just another of Trump’s blatant pandering lies. > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Joe McCarthy has the list at the moment. Didn’t Trump start out with his very own version of McCarthyism? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28563 "2018-12-26T02:36:30Z")
[Look at this ridiculous shitstain.](https://us.cnn.com/2018/12/25/politics/trump-oval-office-christmas/index.html) Jesus Christ, Donny. Who can take you seriously? Look at the pathetic, 71 year-old with his hairline on his eyebrows and the silly, orange face. Before we take in your lies and moronic ramblings, we are subjected to the raging insecurity that compels a man to make a fool of himself in this way. Just shut the fuck up. You have failed. You’re a failure and your “administration” is a foul joke. There is only one thing left, you useless pus bubble. Just one word. The only word that should be spoken whenever your name is mentioned: Resign. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28564 "2018-12-26T02:42:39Z")
He used a big word that a 7 year old was unfamiliar with. So he’s got that going for him. **Fortunately, that 7-year-old who talked to Trump about Santa had no idea what ‘marginal’ meant** > **[Fortunately, that 7-year-old who talked to Trump about Santa had no idea what...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-trump-child-santa-20181225-story.html)** > > A child who talked to President Trump left milk and cookies for Santa despite him telling her it was "marginal" for a child of her age to still believe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1427) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1429)