# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1433
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28645 "2018-12-28T02:05:44Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I don’t care too much if he dodged the draft on general principle applied to everyone. What I hate about him, Gingrich, Rush… I hate chickenhawks. > > You cheat your way out of service or don’t sign up in times of peace. Fine. But you don’t commit your life to drumming up fear, encouraging wars, supporting those wars that you yourself are too cowardly to partake in. I think non-veterans can support wars, but it’s the “encouraging” and fear-mongering that makes one a chickenhawk. Hey! Let’s don’t forget that The Donald had [his own personal Vietnam](https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/media/trump-stern-vietnam-stds/index.html)! If you want to be reminded what a disgusting piece of filth our so-called president is, re-read the 1998 interview with Howard Stern at that link. > [@](#): > > … “So you’ll just have straight intercourse with a rubber with them right?” Stern asked. > > “Well, I don’t know, you know there’s lots of different ways of doing it. It’s a very complicated subject. They say that more people were killed by women in this act than killed in Vietnam, OK,” Trump said. > > “Yes, that is true,” replied Stern. > > “You know, you get criticized for that statement, but that statement is very easily true,” added Trump. > > Stern responded, “I even went as far to say that you’re braver than any Vietnam vet because you’re out there screwing a lot of women.” > > “Getting the Congressional Medal of Honor, in actuality,” said Trump. > > Later in the interview Trump and Stern again compared avoiding STDs to Vietnam. > … ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28646 "2018-12-28T02:14:54Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I don’t care too much if he dodged the draft on general principle applied to everyone. What I hate about him, Gingrich, Rush… I hate chickenhawks. > > You cheat your way out of service or don’t sign up in times of peace. Fine. But you don’t commit your life to drumming up fear, encouraging wars, supporting those wars that you yourself are too cowardly to partake in. I think non-veterans can support wars, but it’s the “encouraging” and fear-mongering that makes one a chickenhawk. _Morning Joe_ summed it up today: New Reporting Sheds Light On Donald Trump, Robert Mueller During Vietnam Era | Morning Joe | MSNBC The video starts out with Trump describing the stressful ordeal they had to go through when Air Force One landed in Iraq, including the plane's lights being turned off: "The horror! The horror! But it mainly compares and contrasts Trump and Mueller during the late 60’s. I didn’t know this, but apparently Mueller had a knee injury from playing college hockey and/or lacrosse at Princeton. He had to rehab it for months before he could go to the Marines’ Officer Candidate School. Then Mueller became a combat-decorated platoon leader in Viet Nam. Trump also attended an Ivy League school and famously got a note from his doctor claiming he had bone spurs to get out of military service. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28647 "2018-12-28T02:25:22Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Troops bringing Trump hats to sign may violate military rule > > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/troops-bringing-trump-hats-to-sign-may-violate-military-rule/ar-BBRsX6J) > > I was just thinking…where did they get the MAGA hats? Seems like an odd item for soldiers to bring with them. Or did a staffer hand them out before the photo op? [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21145665&postcount=161](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21145665&postcount=161) > [@](#): > > But consider what is happening now, with the current commander in chief, who repeatedly rejects his own non-partisan intelligence agencies’ findings of Russian involvement in our political process and who displays vindictiveness against former members of the intelligence community, threatening to revoke their security clearances for the ‘crime’ of contradicting his claims. It’s already clear that this president is willing to politicize any institution that falls under his control: the military, the national police, the federal prosecutors who staff his Department of Justice. > > In short, this country is in deep, deep trouble. We probably have only one or two more election cycles left, one or two more chances, before American democracy is damaged irreversibly. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28648 "2018-12-28T02:31:15Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > You’re 88 posts too late. 🙂 It’s hard keeping up with the most recent example of Trump family corruption! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28649 "2018-12-28T04:22:34Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > He also said Pelosi was responsible for blocking the wall, because she wanted to be Speaker and thus was running the show, that he felt “Chuck” really did want the wall. Of course Chuck wants the wall. Trump has shown, time and again, that he reads and understands people better than anyone. I’m mean the North Korea thing worked out fine… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28650 "2018-12-28T05:20:23Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > He also said Pelosi was responsible for blocking the wall, because she wanted to be Speaker and thus was running the show, that he felt “Chuck” really did want the wall. Well, Chuck was originally opposed to the wall, but he’s secretly started to come around once Trump started talking about steel slats and releasing the images of the new prototypes: Tall, long slats, standing straight up, firm and well defined, with a clear point at the top! Daring everyone: “Just mount me! You won’t be able to beat me down! Come on!” Any man could see the need for such slats. Nancy just doesn’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28651 "2018-12-28T05:58:12Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Well, Chuck was originally opposed to the wall, but he’s secretly started to come around once Trump started talking about steel slats and releasing the images of the new prototypes: > > Tall, long slats, standing straight up, firm and well defined, with a clear point at the top! Daring everyone: “Just mount me! You won’t be able to beat me down! Come on!” > > Any man could see the need for such slats. > > Nancy just doesn’t get it. Who’s going to tell Chuck it’s not “sluts”? Coming from Chump, the mishearing is understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28652 "2018-12-28T05:59:49Z")
Y’all are still thinking too high level. Pelosi is a woman. In that deranged oompa-loompah’s mind, ‘Chuck’ is a man and obviously knows better than what a woman thinks, which is why he was looking more his way during the meeting and why he’s now looking to him, as the leading male Democrat, to set her in her place by doing the opposite of what she says. No, it doesn’t make any fucking sense, but when has that stopped that worthless waste of perfectly good carbon. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28653 "2018-12-28T06:20:05Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Pelosi is a woman. “And not even a hot one, like my beautiful daughter Ivanka. SAD!” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28654 "2018-12-28T15:15:33Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Seen on FARK: > > The stock market had been declining for some time, then Trump goes to a war zone and the stock market goes up. Trump returns to the US and the market goes down. For the good of our nation, we need to send Trump to a war zone for a permanent stay. > > 🙂 I can see it now. "Welcome back to the front, sir. We have assigned you a temporary MOS: ID10T. “Oooh! Cool! What is it?” “Um… bullet sponge.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28655 "2018-12-28T15:29:25Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I can see it now. > > "Welcome back to the front, sir. We have assigned you a temporary MOS: ID10T. > > “Oooh! Cool! What is it?” > > “Um… bullet sponge.” Is that like 4-F? Woody Allen - “In the event of war, I’m a hostage” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28656 "2018-12-29T19:27:07Z")
Trump has announced that he’s freezing the scheduled federal employee 2019 pay raise, because the economy can’t support it. I thought his economy was booming? What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28657 "2018-12-29T19:34:24Z")
The economy is booming and it is terrible. The stock market is up, up up, because of Trump, and it is also down because of the Fed. The big beautiful wall is being built, and the evil democrats are stopping it from being built. Hordes of illegals are streaming over the border, and the illegals are being kept out by the big beautiful wall. Mueller has nothing, and he has everything. Micheal Cohen is a hero and a traitor. This is how Trump works. He spews out contradictory crap constantly, and the Trumpkins can latch onto whatever they like. They do not see the contradictions- they only see what they want to see. They are morons, and Trump knows this. He is playing his base. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28658 "2018-12-29T20:33:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump has announced that he’s freezing the scheduled federal employee 2019 pay raise, because the economy can’t support it. I thought his economy was booming? What am I missing? That the ‘economy’ also can’t support Social Security, Medicare, or food stamps. Public education has also got to go. The tax cuts won’t pay for themselves, yanno! (Wait, I thought the tax cuts Were supposed to pay for themselves? 😕 ) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28659 "2018-12-29T20:55:25Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > That the ‘economy’ also can’t support Social Security, Medicare, or food stamps. Public education has also got to go. The tax cuts won’t pay for themselves, yanno! (Wait, I thought the tax cuts Were supposed to pay for themselves? 😕 ) That’s just it, we didn’t have enough tax cuts for them to pay for themselves. Imagine how well they would pay for themselves if we cut taxes on the rich altogether. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28660 "2018-12-29T21:20:11Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > (Wait, I thought the tax cuts Were supposed to pay for themselves? 😕 ) The tax cuts will pay for themselves by means of getting rid of all those things that those taxes were paying for. You know, like, keeping asbestos off the market kinds of things. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28661 "2018-12-29T21:51:36Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > …This is how Trump works. He spews out contradictory crap constantly, and the Trumpkins can latch onto whatever they like. They do not see the contradictions- they only see what they want to see. They are morons, and Trump knows this. He is playing his base. He’s not playing them. This is how morons interact and dare I say communicate. Someone should just tell Trump that Obama once jumped over a pit of crocodiles. “Here, hold my 1/4 pounder” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28662 "2018-12-29T21:56:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The economy is booming and it is terrible. The stock market is up, up up, because of Trump, and it is also down because of the Fed. > > The big beautiful wall is being built, and the evil democrats are stopping it from being built. > > Hordes of illegals are streaming over the border, and the illegals are being kept out by the big beautiful wall. > > Mueller has nothing, and he has everything. Micheal Cohen is a hero and a traitor. > > … Beautiful. Charles Dickens couldn’t have said it better. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28663 "2018-12-30T06:11:09Z")
News is there is a nude selfie in the evidence Mueller has amassed for a Russian troll farm. I am praying hard to the God I don’t believe in that it is not of Chump, as he is probably the one person in the world I would most want NOT to see naked. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28664 "2018-12-30T06:54:12Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > News is there is a nude selfie in the evidence Mueller has amassed for a Russian troll farm. I am praying hard to the God I don’t believe in that it is not of Chump, as he is probably the one person in the world I would most want NOT to see naked. Pretty much all possibilities are horrifying to some degree or another- but that one is definitely MOST horrifying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1432) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1434)