# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28685 "2018-12-30T22:44:24Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I just had an idea so brilliant, (and ethically dubious) that it will probably put me next in line to be Attorney General.
> 
> So Trump needs money for his wall but congress has specifically rejected using any funds for this boondoggle. At times like this one should follow the mantra “what would Reagan do?” Answer: sell weapons to America’s enemies in exchange for money which is then funneled through drug cartels to the place you wanted it to go.
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> We have many options for the weapons sales: Taliban, North Korea, Syria, ISIS, as well as sticking with the old favorite Iran. This money could then be funneled to Mexican Drug cartels who would then threaten the lives of the rejected asylum seekers unless they agree to clandestinely build the wall. So we actually end up with Mexico paying for the wall and he cruises into victory in 2020. Best of all if this scheme is discovered, perhaps the workers didn’t build the wall clandestinely enough, it just another in a long list of scandals, and will be forgotten in two weeks when, something even worse is discovered. MAGA!

Great! What is your real name? Trumps administration has a special post for you. The democrats have a special post as well. 😃

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28686 "2018-12-30T22:50:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Office of Personnel Management says that the release of their memo suggesting federal employees do chores to pay their rent was an “inadvertent” release.  
> [OPM ‘inadvertently’ posted advice for furloughed government workers to barter with creditors | The Hill](https://thehill.com/policy/finance/423240-opm-inadvertently-posted-advice-for-furloughed-government-workers-to-barter)

They said the same thing when Trump Jr. was born.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28687 "2018-12-30T23:46:00Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I just had an idea so brilliant, (and ethically dubious) that it will probably put me next in line to be Attorney General.
> 
> So Trump needs money for his wall but congress has specifically rejected using any funds for this boondoggle. At times like this one should follow the mantra “what would Reagan do?” Answer: sell weapons to America’s enemies in exchange for money which is then funneled through drug cartels to the place you wanted it to go.
> 
> We have many options for the weapons sales: Taliban, North Korea, Syria, ISIS, as well as sticking with the old favorite Iran. This money could then be funneled to Mexican Drug cartels who would then threaten the lives of the rejected asylum seekers unless they agree to clandestinely build the wall. So we actually end up with Mexico paying for the wall and he cruises into victory in 2020. Best of all if this scheme is discovered, perhaps the workers didn’t build the wall clandestinely enough, it just another in a long list of scandals, and will be forgotten in two weeks when, something even worse is discovered. MAGA!

And, the cartels can use that money and labor to dig superhighway tunnels to rival the interstate system.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28688 "2018-12-31T00:41:54Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Bravo!

Thanks! I thought it was pretty low-hanging fruit myself, but I’m not too proud to go for the obvious.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28689 "2018-12-31T02:52:11Z")

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Little Lindsey Graham says [the Wall is just a metaphor.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/lindsey-graham-tries-convince-america-trumps-wall-just-metaphor-border-security/)

Remember those heated rally chants? “We’re gonna build a big, beautiful metaphor! And Mexico will pay for it in a philosophical sense!”

How long before The Failing Loser Donald throws him under the bus?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28690 "2018-12-31T02:59:19Z")

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Let’s throw some figurative dollars at it then!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28691 "2018-12-31T03:12:17Z")

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Sigh. We knew this.

[\*\*John Kelly Confirms He Was Lying All Along: The White House Is in Chaos \*\*](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kelly-exit-interview-773739/)

> [@](#):
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> …In the interview [[with the Los Angeles Times]](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-john-kelly-exit-interview-20181230-story.html), Kelly said he hopes his tenure will be judged not by what Trump did but by what Kelly prevented him from doing — not exactly a ringing endorsement of his former boss. It’s clear that by blaming others for the administration’s blunders, Kelly is trying to protect his legacy and reputation. But after serving and defending Trump, it’s probably too late for that.

Yeah, I’d say it’s too late for that.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28692 "2018-12-31T03:13:13Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Let’s throw some figurative dollars at it then!

Zim Dollars! It’s not like tan the fake man would know the difference between those and greenbacks.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28693 "2018-12-31T03:13:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Little Lindsey Graham says [the Wall is just a metaphor.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/lindsey-graham-tries-convince-america-trumps-wall-just-metaphor-border-security/)
> 
> Remember those heated rally chants? “We’re gonna build a big, beautiful metaphor! And Mexico will pay for it in a philosophical sense!”
> 
> How long before The Failing Loser Donald throws him under the bus?

He would claim it was his own clumsiness that caused him to stumble and fall under the bus.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28694 "2018-12-31T03:14:15Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Sigh. We knew this.
> 
> [\*\*John Kelly Confirms He Was Lying All Along: The White House Is in Chaos \*\*](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kelly-exit-interview-773739/)  
> Yeah, I’d say it’s too late for that.

I think he’s hoping we’ll see him as “the good kind of enabler” :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28695 "2018-12-31T04:13:26Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Sigh. We knew this.
> 
> [\*\*John Kelly Confirms He Was Lying All Along: The White House Is in Chaos \*\*](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kelly-exit-interview-773739/)  
> Yeah, I’d say it’s too late for that.

He needn’t worry about his reputation. It will just be put in foster care or whatever.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28696 "2018-12-31T04:27:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Office of Personnel Management says that the release of their memo suggesting federal employees do chores to pay their rent was an “inadvertent” release.  
> [OPM ‘inadvertently’ posted advice for furloughed government workers to barter with creditors | The Hill](https://thehill.com/policy/finance/423240-opm-inadvertently-posted-advice-for-furloughed-government-workers-to-barter)

I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28697 "2018-12-31T11:23:15Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Office of Personnel Management says that the release of their memo suggesting federal employees do chores to pay their rent was an “inadvertent” release.  
> [OPM ‘inadvertently’ posted advice for furloughed government workers to barter with creditors | The Hill](https://thehill.com/policy/finance/423240-opm-inadvertently-posted-advice-for-furloughed-government-workers-to-barter)

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> They said the same thing when Trump Jr. was born.

And probably when Eric was conceived…

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28698 "2018-12-31T13:10:28Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> It is not that intellectuals are fooled by this language. It is just that they are amazed that it works.

I’m no intellectual but rather than amazed, I’m disappointed.

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> It would also have required him to be able to read.

Now, let’s be fair. Donnie Two-scoops is perfectly capable of reading\* – he just doesn’t bother. And why not? It’s worked for him so far.

\*What grade level TBD.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28699 "2018-12-31T13:18:09Z")

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Courts rule Individual-1’s tweets are [just a bunch of lies](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/30/trump-tweets-judges-doj-lawyers-foia-lawsuits/2197524002/) anyway, so the government can’t be held accountable for them. His DOJ considers that a _victory_.

> [@](#):
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> “Because the President’s tweet amounts to speculation, it does not” require agencies to acknowledge whether documents exist, U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled in a case concerning whether Trump was under investigation.
> 
> “As already discussed, the President’s statements may very well be based on media reports or his own personal knowledge, or could simply be viewed as political statements intended to counter media accounts about the Russia investigation, rather than assertions of pure fact,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta ruled in a case seeking release of the government synopsis of a dossier of information about Trump.
> 
> Those conclusions – that the president’s statements on national security are not always to be taken literally, or to be trusted – are legal victories for his Justice Department, which has argued repeatedly that the president’s public comments are no reason to force the government to divulge its national security secrets.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28700 "2018-12-31T15:01:36Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> News is there is a nude selfie in the evidence Mueller has amassed for a Russian troll farm. I am praying hard to the God I don’t believe in that it is not of Chump, as he is probably the one person in the world I would most want NOT to see naked.

It’s bound to be Roger Stone. He’s the most [openly-pervy](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster) person in Trump’s orbit.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28701 "2018-12-31T15:13:22Z")

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I was wondering if it could have been that Russian woman who infiltrated the RNC and NRA. Wasn’t she a seductress of sorts? But yeah, guys usually are the first ones to the table with: “Here’s a picture of my crank! Look at it!”

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28702 "2018-12-31T15:37:25Z")

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I’d be surprised to find out it’s a woman simply because there are so few (if any?) women under investigation. Any one of those guys could just say - “So some bimbo sends me a text of her boobs - what can I do?”

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28703 "2018-12-31T15:39:35Z")

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Trump being pissed on by two prostitutes in the Moscow bed previously slept in by the Obamas?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/28704 "2018-12-31T16:33:22Z")

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Liars, scammers and con-artists have one jobs: to maintain a believable narrative. In the long game, that [can be difficult](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-now-claims-most-furloughed-workers-are-democrats-n952236).

_Have the Democrats finally realized that we desperately need Border Security and a Wall on the Southern Border. Need to stop Drugs, Human Trafficking,Gang Members & Criminals from coming into our Country. Do the Dems realize that [COLOR=“Brown”]most of the people not getting paid are Democrats?_[/COLOR]

These are the same people he claimed were supporting his bid for the wall. This works on his magats, who are abundantly attention-deficient, but for normal people, maybe not so much.

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